21/22 Bikes That Make Your Shorts Tighter.

[XXX-er]

the price per LB is insane

have you got the new bike yet ?

not that it matters cuz there is nowhere to ride it

[LHutz Esq]

Not yet - thanks again for the hookup Al. Probably going to head over to pg to pickup this bad boy next week (need anything at costco?)

Your boy was great to work with and I am super pumped

Who needs an engine!.. and a foot of travel..

[carlh]

i'm talking beyond dentist ,

I was hanging out at the shop a year ago 4pm on a shittty lazy saturday waiting to close, someone named BoB
leaves a filthy sand encrusted 20K+ pinerello, 3 mechanics including the manager jump on this abused bike they take everything apart and make it perfect, Bob has it back before closing

i comment that Bob sure abuses his bike and that is a terrible way to treat such a thoroughbred bike bike and BTW what does bob do? they are like yeah Bob owns a lot of things, he spends alot of $$$$$, every year and he uses the gear

The whole point of bikes is to ride them not to hang on the wall. Props to Bob for using his fancy toys.

I don't have 20k bikes all of my bikes currently have mud and scratches on them. Drivetrains get cleaned, suspension gets maintained, but fuck if Im going to avoid riding cause my bike might get dirty. Chains and bearings are cheap.

[rideit]

Bikes are weird - when you compare them to say a boat or a sled habit - cheap.

But they more closely resemble a dirt bike and wtf?

Crf250r is 4gs less than that rocky and within reach of what I just dropped on an ibis.

This is a very old retort, but when Rocky is selling 2 MILLION of these things per year in a global market, I bet their prices could come down a few G’s, too. Oh, and when weight is basically a non-issue as well. And when they sell the same basic platform for 10 years.

EDIT: I have no actual idea how many crf’s are sold per year, but you get my point.

[bagtagley]

The problem with price per pound is that a big part of what makes bikes so expensive is how light they are given the beating they can take.

Edit: basically was rideit was mumbling. [emoji16]

[Dantheman]

GG shedding a little over half a pound going full carbon. Starting with the Trail Pistol, but gotta figure it’ll apply to all models soon enough.

I've been keeping an eye out for a used Revved Megatrail frame, hopefully this makes that more likely.

[One (+) Sentence]

This is a very old retort, but when Rocky is selling 2 MILLION of these things per year in a global market, I bet their prices could come down a few G’s, too. Oh, and when weight is basically a non-issue as well. And when they sell the same basic platform for 10 years.

EDIT: I have no actual idea how many crf’s are sold per year, but you get my point.

^^^ exactly. Also, you can purchase basically the exact same MTB’s that are raced at the highest levels of the sport. I don’t know moto, but it is my understanding that the bikes top level guys use are very different and way more expensive than anything available at local dealerships.

[Falcon3]

^^^ exactly. Also, you can purchase basically the exact same MTB’s that are raced at the highest levels of the sport. I don’t know moto, but it is my understanding that the bikes top level guys use are very different and way more expensive than anything available at local dealerships.

True, and usually can only be ridden a couple times (under 10 hours) before full rebuilds on the engine are needed. I didn’t get the durability aspect of MtB til I picked it up and realized what a thrashing they go through and how long we expect them to last.

That said, I’m going to make the controversial statement much like the boots thread and say 90% of riders are overbiked. Once you get past a Fox34/Deore build the rest is certainly not necessary for the majority of folks on the hill daily.

[LHutz Esq]

This is a very old retort, but when Rocky is selling 2 MILLION of these things per year in a global market, I bet their prices could come down a few G’s, too. Oh, and when weight is basically a non-issue as well. And when they sell the same basic platform for 10 years.

EDIT: I have no actual idea how many crf’s are sold per year, but you get my point.

That's a very old retort to the very old retort.

All told competition class bikes have had a slow growth (Canada data here: https://www.mmic.ca/mmic-industry-st...-summary-full/) - well until 2020 which is a bit of an anomaly we can all agree. Mountain bikes - have had solid growth even before 2020.

My point is more that as the price differential turns (high end mtn bikes becoming more and more expensive than high end dirt) and more dirt co's go electric (many say the limiting factor for motorized dirt bikes is limited legal riding space). You can see folks turning to the motorized version is all. It just gets tempting. I know I was tempted. A plated dirt bike offers some great opportunities up here. (CRF450l is 12,000 pesos - 9500 freedom units up here)

That being said - I will keep beating the piss out of my '94 xr and riding my brand spankin' new Ibis for a while yet.

.. oh and dirt bikers can be weight wheenies as well, hence part of the KTM premium (their 450 is like 220lbs.)

I think a lot of it is just cultural. Mtn bikers are just willing to pay more. Best deals on dh goggles, gloves, jerseys - try the mx shops.

[toast2266]

A completely stock top of the line mountain bike is essentially identical to what the pros are riding.

A completely stock, top of the line dirt bike is not even close to what the pros are riding. If you want a pro level dirt bike, you're looking at a solid $50k or more. Even a "regular" dirt bike with some pretty common upgrades will have another $5-10k worth of stuff hung off it.

[XXX-er]

I think we decided on a cocktail napkin that the difference in $ between average toys and the high end is 10x but its probably changed

[shirk]

Shorts got tight for these two little shredders last night. Two stoked little dudes.

[klauss]

look! a shop with bikes. probably all spoken for.

them kids sporting anglesets and infinity engagement hand built wheels on those dentist builds

[bennymac]

Shorts got tight for these two little shredders last night. Two stoked little dudes.

That’s so cool to see

[schuss]

True, and usually can only be ridden a couple times (under 10 hours) before full rebuilds on the engine are needed. I didn’t get the durability aspect of MtB til I picked it up and realized what a thrashing they go through and how long we expect them to last.

That said, I’m going to make the controversial statement much like the boots thread and say 90% of riders are overbiked. Once you get past a Fox34/Deore build the rest is certainly not necessary for the majority of folks on the hill daily.

So true. I was even dead set on a speshy evo-class bike until I was like "wait, I'm not rad" and saw the thrashing the regular stuff was taking in the reviews. I am now happy with my non-Evo purchase.

Kind of like how we all don't need 192 Big Mountain chargers for resort use *ducks*

[XXX-er]

look! a shop with bikes. probably all spoken for.

them kids sporting anglesets and infinity engagement hand built wheels on those dentist builds

Yes, not very many bikes for this time of year !

[grinch]

All canfields new bikes. Lithium and one are very nice

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[Falcon3]

Kind of like how we all don't need 192 Big Mountain chargers for resort use *ducks*

You shut yer goddam mouth

[xtrmjoe]

Will do. Current thoughts, fox 34 grip 2 130mm, derby 30mm carbon rims, white hubs, rekon 2.6 ft 2.4 rr.

I have a 2018 santa cruz highball, 100mm travel hardtail and 2016 intense tracer(27.5) set to 150mm ft 145mm rear. Hoping the hei hei fits well in the middle.

So first ride, on my main close local loop. PR’d the down. Fiddled with stuff on the way up, cockpit mostly. I have not demoed any other bikes in this category so cant comment directly. Took almost no getting use to just fast out the gate. 29 lbs 6oz with pedals and bottle cages.

Faster than tracer, much easier on the body and faster than the highball. When I locked the shock climbed nearly as efficiently as highball but with bigger tires. Cant wait to get more miles on it! Not sure i need the other bikes in the quiver, cept the kona ebike!

[VTskibum]

So true. I was even dead set on a speshy evo-class bike until I was like "wait, I'm not rad" and saw the thrashing the regular stuff was taking in the reviews. I am now happy with my non-Evo purchase.

Kind of like how we all don't need 192 Big Mountain chargers for resort use *ducks*

Based on current HTA and designs (which I'm a fan of to a point), I should have died riding on rocks and techy trails w/ a HT 29er w/ a 71/72* HTA 10 years ago.

[jackstraw]

Based on current HTA and designs (which I'm a fan of to a point), I should have died riding on rocks and techy trails w/ a HT 29er w/ a 71/72* HTA 10 years ago.

You can say that again! It's just like skis...so much easier today...but also expands the possibilities.

[east or bust]

My first mountain bike was a bmx bike, so there’s that. Yellow Haro F2, good times


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[Dee Hubbs]

Rocky Altitude photos to come!

[scblurlt]

couldn't buy the bike I wanted for 2021 so had to build it myself
Santa Cruz v4 mullet WBP custom build

[Dee Hubbs]

Instinct 70 COIL in purple. XT shifting an brakes, RF Turbine crank, ARC 30 with DT 350 hub. Cane Creek Helm Coil up front and DBCoil IL on the rear. Just a hair under 32lbs with my test ride platform pedals.



The purple and sandstone are not bad.