Zwift, TR, Sufferfest etc

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Originally Posted by huckbucket

DH, we doing the same two-ride-schedule this week?

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I did the same Times, Route, and Distance for both MST Tues and EST Thurs rides.

I’m gonna try and sneak the Thursday ride with you guys if I can wrap up work early. Thanks for organizing these Dee

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Originally Posted by kathleenturneroverdrive

I’m gonna try and sneak the Thursday ride with you guys if I can wrap up work early. Thanks for organizing these Dee

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The Event is set to accept late joiners, we take about 45-50 minutes to complete the 3 laps.
You can ghost in at any point.

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Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs

How do we not know that both You and Mrs aren’t pedaling that tandem on the trainer together, instead of 200 watts you two are pumping out 400 watts?

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I can show you the 10 rides that she has done on that tandem via Strava. I think we have 250 miles on it in 3yrs. Sad purchase... Not our first tandem, but she shows little interest and I keep hoping, so we keep it around.

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Iowagriz crushing it with the dedicated Zwift room. Well done sir.

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Originally Posted by EWG

My lovely wife has informed me that I am dropping sweat on the rug and should consider a mat underneath. That was not exactly how she phrased it.

Anybody got a good mat they like that is reasonably priced? What are you guys using?

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This works well although it seems the seller I bought mine from in Sept isn't around anymore.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0041GQH3S..._uLT1Fb5VZ808F

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Originally Posted by kathleenturneroverdrive

I’m the same as you. Outdoors, on sub 2 hour rides I don’t bring food or water. Indoors I do drink on those rides since I get so hot, but don’t eat.

It’s the 2+ hour, race type rides I really need a strategy to fuel. Couple weeks ago I did a Zwift B group century that meant nonstop, no break 2.8 - 3.2w/kg for almost 4 hours. GU every 45 minutes or so worked at first but I got kind of sick of those. So tried to eat real food without slowing down. And that’s super tough - I just can’t choke down peanut butter toast or a snickers or whatever in the middle of a ride without slowing down. So that’s what I’m looking for alternative fueling solutions for - water with carbs, gu that doesn’t taste awful after a few hours, etc.

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Takes a special kind of mental to put that effort out for 4 hours. There's really no stopping. I could probably do that physically for 2 hours max, but only mentally for 1. Kudos.

Thanks! Although my honest thought as things got rough around mile 70 was more that I’m a special kind of moron for riding 100 miles in a video game

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Originally Posted by Iowagriz

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What brand/model of shelving is that? looks like the ticket for my basement project.

The Costco shelving. A great product. That is two boxes worth (approx $170 a box). You can string them together to make it longer. The shorty on the end is two crossbars that were cut in half and sit on 2x4s screwed into the wall.

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Originally Posted by Iowagriz

The Costco shelving. A great product. That is two boxes worth (approx $170 a box). You can string them together to make it longer. The shorty on the end is two crossbars that were cut in half and sit on 2x4s screwed into the wall.

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Cool - thanks!


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hats off to a nice job- thats a sweet set up

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Originally Posted by Iowagriz

It took approx 3 weeks ,but I finally finished my garage Zwift and bike space. Garage had the drywall tape and first coat of mud. I did two more coats of mud, then primer and paint. Cheap carpet ($100)and strategically placed plug strips. The hardest part was the constant moving of stuff/boxes to get to the next section to work.

Done, I can finally join you guys this Tuesday.

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Originally Posted by kathleenturneroverdrive

I’m the same as you. Outdoors, on sub 2 hour rides I don’t bring food or water. Indoors I do drink on those rides since I get so hot, but don’t eat.

It’s the 2+ hour, race type rides I really need a strategy to fuel. Couple weeks ago I did a Zwift B group century that meant nonstop, no break 2.8 - 3.2w/kg for almost 4 hours. GU every 45 minutes or so worked at first but I got kind of sick of those. So tried to eat real food without slowing down. And that’s super tough - I just can’t choke down peanut butter toast or a snickers or whatever in the middle of a ride without slowing down. So that’s what I’m looking for alternative fueling solutions for - water with carbs, gu that doesn’t taste awful after a few hours, etc.

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At 3w/kg

Assuming:
165lbs
FTP ~4w/kg
Decent Fat Oxidation
~22% efficiency

You are Burning ~722kcals of carbohydrate (CHO) per hour.
Doing this for 4 hours burns ~2,888 kcals

With the above assumptions, you likely have have ~1,453kcals stored (~500 in the liver and ~950 in the leg musculature). This projects a caloric deficit of ~1,435 kcals (2,888 burnt - 1,453 stored)

For maximal performance, you ought to replace all of those deficit calories to the tune of 359 kcals per hour. (1,435 / 4 hours)

This is either 1 bottle per hour of a high caloric drink (e.g. Skratch Superfuel) or the combination of hydration and gels, etc.

If any of the above assumptions are incorrect, let me know and I can update the calculations.

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Originally Posted by XtrPickels

At 3w/kg

Assuming:
165lbs
FTP ~4w/kg
Decent Fat Oxidation
~22% efficiency

You are Burning ~722kcals of carbohydrate (CHO) per hour.
Doing this for 4 hours burns ~2,888 kcals

With the above assumptions, you likely have have ~1,453kcals stored (~500 in the liver and ~950 in the leg musculature). This projects a caloric deficit of ~1,435 kcals (2,888 burnt - 1,453 stored)

For maximal performance, you ought to replace all of those deficit calories to the tune of 359 kcals per hour. (1,435 / 4 hours)

This is either 1 bottle per hour of a high caloric drink (e.g. Skratch Superfuel) or the combination of hydration and gels, etc.

If any of the above assumptions are incorrect, let me know and I can update the calculations.

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Dammit. I thought the answer was "blue." Wrong again.

That's awesome info/kind of that missing piece as I have to work through this stuff. I am roughly 13 pounds heavier, would that bump my intake needs a bit?

So, for those of you using Trainer Road (or another online coach), do you also participate in Zwift rides/races? And fat bike and backcountry ski/ride?
How do you manage all of this and stay in a training program (in terms of ride intensities, heart rate, mileage, etc).
Still trying to figure out my strategy this year, curious how people are doing all of this.
Thanks.

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Originally Posted by rideit

So, for those of you using Trainer Road (or another online coach), do you also participate in Zwift rides/races? And fat bike and backcountry ski/ride?
How do you manage all of this and stay in a training program (in terms of ride intensities, heart rate, mileage, etc).
Still trying to figure out my strategy this year, curious how people are doing all of this.
Thanks.

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I'm trying to get back into biking shape but I'm not willing to sacrifice my fun, so I'm doing the zwift 4 week ftp builder, and fitting in the next workout each time I feel like I have legs between fun activities. I think I can do the ride tonight but not Thursday, so I'll do our ride tonight then the next workout on the FTP builder Thursday. This early season skiing doesn't work anything enough to get in the way. I'm also trying to lift lower and upper body, so it's a lot to fit in. I just wedge it together when I can and not worry about the calendar.

Trigger pulled on a Suito Elite, I should have it before the new year. I can't hang with the rides you guys have been doing (7w/kg??), but maybe I'll jump in in a month or so just to slide off the back.

Just finished a training ride and the GF is making pizza. See you cats Thursday, have fun tonight


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Originally Posted by rideit

So, for those of you using Trainer Road (or another online coach), do you also participate in Zwift rides/races? And fat bike and backcountry ski/ride?
How do you manage all of this and stay in a training program (in terms of ride intensities, heart rate, mileage, etc).
Still trying to figure out my strategy this year, curious how people are doing all of this.
Thanks.

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For me it's been easy to follow a plan to the letter since this winter has sucked in MT. But if it starts dumping I'd ski and just do my best to adjust the plan.

As for zwift racing specifically - I'm no expert but from what I've heard you can do a training plan, or you can do a lot of races, but the two are really hard to mix and expect to do well at both.

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Trigger pulled on a Suito Elite, I should have it before the new year. I can't hang with the rides you guys have been doing (7w/kg??), but maybe I'll jump in in a month or so just to slide off the back.

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We ride together at +/-2.5w/kg for 40 minutes, then there is a climb with 4kms left where we show who’s who and “race” to the finish line.
I want everyone to feel comfortable joining these rides.
Every guy who said “I’ll try to join but I’ll probably get dropped off the back” has been right in the pack for 40+ minutes until the last climb/run to the line.

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Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs

We ride together at +/-2.5w/kg for 40 minutes, then there is a climb with 4kms left where we show who’s who and “race” to the finish line.
I want everyone to feel comfortable joining these rides.
Every guy who said “I’ll try to join but I’ll probably get dropped off the back” has been right in the pack for 40+ minutes until the last climb/run to the line.

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Nice, that's more achievable. To tell the truth, even getting dropped off the back would be an improvement over the solo rides I've been doing on my dumb trainer.

Just got an "Inride" sensor for my old Kinetic Road Machine. First zwift ride today and I think I'm hooked. No where near ready to pull 2.5 watts per kg for 40 minutes shape wise but hoping to join you guys at some point.

Alright boys. My connection dropped out maybe 20 times but only like 5 seconds per time. Wahoo Core connected to a Bluetooth dongle. Old laptop. Any ideas? Happened Thursday too just not as bad. Maybe the laptop is too old?


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11 guys tonight!
Super fun ride again, a late joiner, an early departer, a mechanical and a technological...
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Alright boys. My connection dropped out maybe 20 times but only like 5 seconds per time. Wahoo Core connected to a Bluetooth dongle. Old laptop. Any ideas? Happened Thursday too just not as bad. Maybe the laptop is too old?

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Can you try connecting the Bluetooth through your Zwift Companion app?

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Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs

Can you try connecting the Bluetooth through your Zwift Companion app?

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I’ll try that. I may just have internet problem.

That was good stuff tonight gents. Thanks for putting these together DH


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That was good stuff tonight gents. Thanks for putting these together DH

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No Problem!
Mrs Dee: ”Do you have to ride every single Tuesday and Thursday?”
Me: “Yep I have to ride or there will be 20 guys on the starting line, waiting for a ride, and it won’t start if I’m not there! “

yeah thanks DH - i wasn't going to ride tonight, but figured "what the hell" - thought you would catch me at the end!

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yeah thanks DH - i wasn't going to ride tonight, but figured "what the hell" - thought you would catch me at the end!

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I flicked my elbow 6 times from the bridge to the 1km banner for AK Clydes to take a pull....
I really wanted to get up to you, but we both didn’t have it in our tanks.

Thanks again Dee... Hopefully I can pull my weight next go around.

DH said lets catch Wen... I didn't have the reserves to even send a response!

Awesome fun again. I really like the no drop mentality. Good old fashioned fun (with nerdy techy new school bike accessories)


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Nice! I think you win the best trainer scenery competition.

Here's my dungeon. Since this picture was taken, I've upgraded to a 24" monitor that my wife retired, but I don't want to go all-in and get a TV because I'm theoretically moving in the next 3 months or so.

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Nice! I think you win the best trainer scenery competition.

Here's my dungeon. Since this picture was taken, I've upgraded to a 24" monitor that my wife retired, but I don't want to go all-in and get a TV because I'm theoretically moving in the next 3 months or so.

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I've owned a CAAD7, 9 and 10 in the past. It's a great, great bike for the cost. I miss them in some ways.

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Originally Posted by huckbucket

I've owned a CAAD7, 9 and 10 in the past. It's a great, great bike for the cost. I miss them in some ways.

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Yeah! I switched from a steel Masi, so this thing was a rocket ship in comparison. The ride is stiff, but no one gets on a road bike to be comfortable, right? Given my level of fitness, I feel like getting anything nicer than this would be like a blue groomer skier going out and buying a pair of Praxis. Like "dude, the bike is not your limiting factor"

Question:

How accessible do I want my phone - on which I’m running the companion ap - I can put it in a holder on the handlebars or do I want it more loose so I can have it in my hands when sitting up? I know that in a holder I could grab it when needed and put it back when not.

Just trying to get a sense of how often during a ride or race do you need to be using the app

I think at my fitness level I’ll be so gassed that any advantage I get out of using a power burst would be negated by the drop in speed that occurs while my oxygen starved brain struggles to operate the ap and trigger the burst :)