Yeah, the weather from golden to Idaho springs is crazy. One year, 2 years ago I think, every time I drove thru there it was hailing. I love exciting weather, but having that happen that year made me steer clear of that region.
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Yeah, the weather from golden to Idaho springs is crazy. One year, 2 years ago I think, every time I drove thru there it was hailing. I love exciting weather, but having that happen that year made me steer clear of that region.
Yes. 17 at Metro. Not really a difficult 2nd shot but confidence not great and I'm playing for par generally. Could of made 6 out of the water pretty easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by commonlaw
Fuck the weather. I'm still heading out.
See yall in about an hour.
So, I had a bit of a mental break-through that has caused me to start laying up on more par 5's than I used to. Looking over past scorecards and where I made birdies, a huge number of them came on short par 4's where I had less than 135 yards into the green. Meaning with wedges there was a high probability of me hitting it somewhat close to the pin.
On par 5's where I went for it in two, if I hit the green or was very close with a short chip, I had an extremely high percentage of making birdie. But if it was a longer par 5 and I left myself a long chip or half wedge, I was no more likely to make birdie than if I had to hit a full wedge (and possibly less so), and of course hitting 3-wood for my second shot brings far more risk into play compared to an 8 or 9 iron.
Seems like kind of a no-brainer and obvious, but sometimes you have to see the stats to force you to change your behavior. Instead of thinking about the chance for an eagle (which are rare as my eagle putts are usually long), I'm far better off trying to turn par 5's into short par 4's unless I estimate at least a 50% chance of hitting the green in 2.
Fucking 82 , my shot game is shit .
Ended up getting the entire nine in. Stayed clear except for one little sprinkle but it was otherwise sunny.
This was a fun carry:
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Hylands cart girl part duex:
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^^^ nice golfing with ya MF..... good times
Sorry I missed it foos. My sliced achilles and potentially $3k car repair that just popped up has messed up everything pretty good right now. I've got one of those aftermarket warranties, so hopefully I'll only be slightly f'd in the a.
that's probably the way to go - but I say f-it about 95% of the time and go for it if I can! I don't carry a 3wd, just a 19deg 5 wood, so about 250 is my limit for going for it... any more and I lay up. Hell, I often "lay up" with a topped 5wd about 100yds down the fairway so it doesn't really matter... the one legit eagle I've made was rad though so I keep chasing that dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
glad to hear Hyland Hills is treating you guys well, great staff and facilities.
Their 27 holes of championship golf a sweet par 3 and kids par 3, +Mini Golf, + go carts, is not too bad either!
54 holes in the next 60 hours...also, a 2-day golf academy with 6 buddies (6hrs sat and sun). Going to be a long/solid weekend.
Driver fitting today on the launch monitor- not that I'm dissatisfied with my current club, but I didn't put much thought into picking it out and so naturally am wondering if I could take 10-20 yards off the table with an upgrade. I probably can't. So, what's the clubfitting scam of the moment? Already planning to use a sleeve of the balls I usually play, brought my current driver for reference, anything else?
By the way, GolfWRX is the TGR of golf. The same way every 5-foot drop becomes a 15-foot cliff here, everyone's 225-yard drive goes 270 there.
Heading out Eagle Vines in Napa today after work. Time for some more Johnny Miller goofy greens. I'll remember to take a pic of his most ridiculous one yet - it's like mini golf. 5 putted it once, starting with a 20 footer for birdie. I was not happy. The two other people in my group 4 putted. Nice course otherwise, though.
The scam is they don't take into account feel and shaft length. The average shaft length on PGA tour is like 43.5-44. Off the shelf stock is 45-46 to generate more swing speed and therefore distance. Most amateurs have no business swinging a 45 inch shaft especially if you are under 6 ft. tall. When I got "fiitted" the driver that they recommended based on numbers felt like crap. Their response was feel is overrated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven S. Dallas
Try the upsell shafts regardless of what they tell you. If you have money to burn the upgraded shafts are worth it. I'm too cheap to pay up.
Yeah, I'm a little skeptical about the whole deal, especially since it's being done at the local Golfsmith and I don't entirely trust 'em. Wanted to make it over to Kepler & Trowbridge but these days I can't spare three hours for the round trip.
Average shaft length is 45 on tour, followed very closely by 44.5Quote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
45 is fine for most fyi.
TM uses a 46 inch shaft in some of their drivers. Too long for a majority of consumers and players. As the club gets longer, missing the center of the club face goes up, distance really goes down. Yeah, you will hit 2 out of 10 a little longer with a longer shaft, but who cares out of maybe 14 driving holes out of 18.
I paid to get fitted at Keplers WC. Waste of money. You'll get the same input at golfsmith with the only difference being multiple shaft selection.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven S. Dallas
Indoors is good to get some numbers, but outdoor is where its at for a proper fitting. Helps to have a good eye and a wide variety of shaft options.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven S. Dallas
I'm 5'10" and play 43.5 driver shaft. Might be 1/2 inch short. But, I grew up with steel shaft on wood.
Trying to get out to Heritage, Legacy, West Woods, IP, Coal Creek, Colorado National, or just somewhere new that's bad ass next week. I'm open all week if anyone wants to join.
I'll send out texts but if anyone wants to get out and has ideas, spout them out.
Yeah, even on the tour, because of lightweight shafts, lengths have increased because of it. In the past, steel shafts+ a longer club= WAY more swing weight with the fact of steel shafts+ plus swing weight physics.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
Currently on tour (2011 data) it is 45, but I bet cash money it will go down to 44.5 in years to come.
Fancy shafts are wonderful. I highly recommend them. I still use my 3 wood from ten years ago. A ping i3 steel head with an AJ Tech metal x shaft, 12* loft. Love that thing.
I had some custom-fit, fancy-shafted clubs made for me at Hot Stix in Scottsdale about 6 years ago. They were great, but at that point my "game" consisted of closing my eyes and swinging as hard as I could, at a speed up in the hundred-and-teens. Now I'm down around 100 and a little and they're just far too stiff. My current (second gen Burner) is, I'm sure, fine, but I got it entirely because it was cheap. Still, not going to buy anything unless there's a better than 10% improvement in trackman results.
Fuck, who am I kidding.
You don't have to spend serious coin these days to pick something up with a dope shaft. I bought a last years nike sumo with some blue aldila shaft that I quite like, at sports authority, for $125 brand new, and it came with a box of soft Nike balls.
There are enough manufacturers out there that are offering off the shelf fancy shafts. It only makes sense since it's very costly to add them afterwards. I spent like $350 on some Fujikura heavy shaft as a high schooler, but if you ordered that club with the shaft from the factory it was an extra $175 or something. My last driver before that is a Titleist 905R with a Graffaloy Blue shaft. I like that shaft better. I have a knot in my back the size of my putter grip. It's making it so I can't yawn, and it's just driving me nuts. I'm falling apart.
Getting fit at a Golfsmith is a waste of money, so is getting fit indoors. For the money, there is no better shaft than a UST V2.
I'm sure it's better to be outdoors, especially because I just feel claustrophobic hitting inside, but there aren't a lot of options for that around here. As for Golfsmith sucking, I was pretty stoked with Lloyd at the downtown SF location- he's a retired guy, early 60s, certified fitter and teacher, and apparently works there a couple days per week just to stay busy and get schwag. Very mellow, zero sales pressure, etc. Recommended.Quote:
Originally Posted by BackCountryNC
Anyway, it was interesting. The clubs that felt best in my hand, I couldn't hit (particularly the Titleists). Clubs I'd hit outside and didn't like, I hit well (Ping G20 and i20-although, in both cases, those were Abdominable Snowman's 8.5*, x-x-x-stiff versions). The i20, in particular, is a monster and probably the most badass-looking club I've ever hit. So after an hour and fifteen minutes of hitting the latest and greatest, I picked up my old bone-stock Burner...
..and hit my three longest, straightest drives of the session, 270 down the pipe. Now, it's very familiar to me, and there's no doubt I'd develop that same level of familiarity with a newer club. But the Taylor Made stays in the bag, for now.
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Originally Posted by Steven S. Dallas
that's one of the drills he's having me do. he's also having me swing with my right hand basically covering my left hand (i'm a rightie) to take my right hand out of the swing and feel the left wrist turning over. my posture was poor and i have little flexibility in my shoulders and upper torso after too many injuries, but my hips are hyper-flexible from constant stretching to deal with muscle spasms, so when i start my backswing, my hips end up leading my arms and shoulders and on my downswing my wrists are apparently breaking too early and i'm not turning anything over. my follow through is way too high -- kind of like the punch shots i was asking about during the memorial, and i'm not gripping with my left hand solidly enough to keep the pad on the club through the follow through.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
i had to take a couple days off because i hit too hard for the 18 on monday and then hit too hard for a lot of balls on wednesday and my back is thrashed. if i can figure out how to have a slowed, relaxed swing, it will save my back a bit i'm sure. i'm going to practice just swinging the club here at home for a couple days without trying to hit anything. try to slow it down and start to feel what i'm supposed to be feeling.
Spook,
Flexibility issues, both hyper and too little, try some corrective (not conditioning) exercises. For the hips, use those stretch bands, there is an iTunes show, Golf fitness academy, and a whole episode on hips. The other one to watch is the women specific episode. It really helps the average Joe.
On a scale of 1-10, Say Tiger woods swing is a 10 and you try to swing driver at a 8, try this. At the range, try making FULL driver swings at the speed of 3, then 5, then 7. Complete your swing, and a full follow though with your best finish, no matter what.
I bet 6 will be the ticket.
I accept paypal.......
Spook-
After you have mastered the 6 or 7 independent, unnatural body movements the pro is teaching, he'll continue your lesson program with leg drive and proper pressure on the big toe of your foot.
What is your ball flight pattern? What direction does does it usually start out (left, right or center of aiming point) ? What direction does it end? Hook or slice? Fade or draw? Straight? I can help.
Try hitting easy 8 irons at the range in your swing search. Hit a whole bucket of 8 irons at no more than 1 every minute or two. Concentrate on tempo and keeping some tension between your left hip and your shoulders.
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" I see your problem with the driver" said the pro golfer to the amateur. "You're standing too close to the ball after you hit it."
Played a hundred year old Donald Ross course in Philly yesterday Lulu Country Club .
Shoot 72 , short game still sucks ass , missed 2 three footers .
One of the guys I played with is a former nationwide pro .
He is buddies with Dufner , like best man at his wedding buddies , couple funny stories that I won't repeat .
thanks for the comments
I know Jason well, used to play a lot with him in Auburn. Who's your buddy? I used to chase Nationwide Monday qualifiers, might know him.Quote:
Originally Posted by skiballs
Jon Rusk .Quote:
Originally Posted by BackCountryNC
I had never meet the guy , a buddy of mine is an industry rep for the Philly section , so I go up and play with whatever degenerates are playing that day .
Jon was a lot of fun to play with , really good driver of the golf ball .
I have been trying to get my swing together this spring and golf frustrates me like no other sport. My instructor has me hitting the ball buttery smooth at the end of each lesson. I go back to practice the next day and it takes me 15 balls to get into a groove and I hit it well. Then when I think I am hitting it well then I always tend to speed up my swing which is fast to begin with and end up going back to hacker status. The thing is I know exactly what I am doing wrong but I have to concentrate really hard on each swing to do it right. I wish I had taken lessons from day one. I still love the game but I wish I could find more consistency. I have a question. Do range balls carry the same as standard balls? I hit my 7 iron 165 to 175 at the range. Are those distances going to be the same with standard balls? They say Super Range or something like that.
I'd say range balls are pretty unpredictable. Some balls are made harder so therefore they go further....
Yeah, it's a tough call with range balls. Unless you are at Corde Valle where they have quality control looking after their NXT Tour range balls, you are most likely hitting balls that have been bladed tons of times, and/or balls that have a lower compression rate so they don't fly as far. I would guess that most are much like Top Flite XL's, or the lower 70 compression balls.
So, no. Most range balls don't give you an ideal picture of what you do out on the course with your Pro v1.
Colorado mags, here's a living social deal for $100 worth of golf for $50. I bought one of them last year, and had an issue that very few of these courses seemed to offer tee times for one - at least at the courses I wanted to play.
http://www.livingsocial.com/cities/2...golf-tee-times
I played with him one time in Auburn back in the early 2000's. I think he was from PA or somewhere in that area.Quote:
Originally Posted by skiballs
Lots of range balls are 'reduced flight', designed not to go as far. At least that's what the pro at the one course here that doesn't use them told me.
Going out to Coal Creek with my father in law this morning. Today should be my second round in the 70's for the year. It can be pretty easy to get yourself in some trouble here, though, so we'll see. I'm glad my sky caddie has a fresh charge...