And I sense that you dont actually hate bunkerbusters as much as you feel like you should, and that troubles you.Quote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
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And I sense that you dont actually hate bunkerbusters as much as you feel like you should, and that troubles you.Quote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
Dude, it’s a nice day. Take a break for a while. Smell them roses for a bit.
No way, HA is going to win the Internetz for yet another day.Quote:
Dude, it’s a nice day. Take a break for a while. Smell them roses for a bit.
Ethnic cleansing and beating an American to death in the West Bank, sure isn't improving the optics.
One wonders if the American kid getting beat to death should more truthfully be framed in a local context, rather than as affaires de lEtat?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shredhead
Whatever it takes to sell digital media, amirite?
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Zuheir_Mohsen
More Palestinians killed in Gaza.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8rp62480r3o
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"Hamas says it. I must believe it." -- Rodina.ru
You don't think there were Palestinians killed?
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Why should anyone lend any credence to anything Hamas "reports"?
Is this more of the usual reporting where Hamas murders a bunch of Palestinians who are getting food aid directly instead of going through Hamas, and then the media reports "dozens of Palestinians killed seeking aid. Israel fired warning shots." Two disconnected sentences where the cause and effect is meant to implied that Israel did the killing but it was Hamas. It is total fucking bullshit. That is what listening to NPR was like Sunday.
. You 2 chugged all the kool aidQuote:
Originally Posted by summit
Maybe if the Izzy's lifted the ban on foreign journalists doing independent reporting in Gaza, it would help cut through the layers of propaganda. I wonder why the Israelis are so opposed to that. lol
Also, we get the forum back off life support and this is the thread you go to first? lmao
mcski's favorite pro-Hamas talking point is like asking why weren't independent reporters embedded with ISIS. Hamas's Gaza has no freedom of press. It's like asking why doesn't North Korea allow independent reporting. The choice is either go in under IDF protection or submit to Hamas control & censorship.
That's why controlling aid is the main sticking point in Gaza cease-fire talks.
Alternate aid distribution to the Hamas-UN-Red-Crescent controlled system is the biggest threat Hamas’s control of Gaza. That explains the cacophony of disinformation and online screeching over the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation. While GHF and other non-Hamas controlled aid agencies currently don't have enough distribution capacity, there is no IDF aid blockade and there is no shortage of aid. There are massive Hamas/UN lots in Gaza with pallets stacked high full of aid waiting to be distributed.
Hamas needs shortages to drive up prices so the terrorist group can pay its fighters. Israel is trying hard to secure a truce. In talks, Hamas keeps adding new demands on top of previously agreed terms. Mainly Hamas is making it abundantly clear, through both words and deeds, that it wants competing aid distribution out of Gaza. It isn’t about improving aid delivery or helping Palestinians, it’s about regaining control
what's hebrew for red herring?
Red herring? Hamas now says people receiving aid from the GHF are "stealing" from them. The punishment according to jihadi Hamas is Sharia law: 1st time: lose a hand, 2nd time: lose a foot, 3rd time: Death. Your so called red herring is in reality a bone saw:
https://i.postimg.cc/8PyZczGt/bone-saw.png
In the video still above an armed Hamas terrorist with a bone saw is seen marching his victims off to their dismemberment
It would useful for the Israelis to allow the international press into Gaza so that could be documented and reported properly.
Well, unfortunately international journalists at the media center in Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital have been reduced to, in a setup that was definitely not staged, drinking only water mixed with salt to avoid dizziness, as famine continue to grip the Gaza Strip:
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1947040963102195892
They tried to look solemn but their acting skills need work.
Gaza and Israel were about to reach a ceasefire agreement. Then twenty-four Western countries demanded that Israel implement an immediate unilateral ceasefire. Hamas, welcoming and emboldened by so much support, backed away from terms it had already agreed to. Yet another example of Western Palestinian activists & Western media compelling politicians into prolonging the war.
Gazans now routinely protest against international media & reporters for refusing to cover any Palestinian criticism of Hamas and for their pro-Hamas coverage. The BBC even had to pull its documentary "Gaza: How To Survive a Warzone" from its streaming service and decided not to broadcast another documentary, "Gaza: Doctors Under Attack" because the production company was controlled by Hamas. The documentary was even narrated by the son of a Hamas government official
What is a good low-bias news source these days on this topic?
The German DW news has a English language version that I think is decent.
No idea whom to believe anymore. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/w...-android-share
The NYTimes coverage is focused on putting out one story and, unthinkably, its truth and accuracy are not the drivers of what it writes. That’s because accurate reports would not sell nearly as well as its smears.
Take note of the qualified headline: “No proof Hamas routinely stole UN aid.” Hamas steals aid. There’s a reason NYT worded it that way. Because it's not in dispute Hamas steals aid. There's video of Hamas stealing aid and there's multiple videos of Hamas shooting Palestinians at UN aid sites. When Hamas isn't stealing aid entirely, Hamas taxes aid which is resold in markets. Hamas even posts videos of themselves feasting on aid.
Also note of the deliberate subheading accusing Israel of causing starvation in Gaza while burying the fact that over the past couple of months the UN deliberately fails to collect and distribute truckloads of aid. The UN repeatedly went days at a time without collecting any aid at all. This past week alone the UN held back 950 trucks filled with the humanitarian aid needed to alleviate the suffering of Gazans. Earlier this week the IDF showed dozens of international journalists, including journalists representing the NYT, large parking lots filled with aid inside Gaza that the UN was refusing to collect:
https://i.postimg.cc/zfFrXh76/Aid-2.png
The UN has since started collecting aid again after the public shaming. The IDF also sent the NYT proof showing how Hamas systematically exploits humanitarian aid to fund its terrorist activities, which the article acknowledges towards the end. And contrary to the article's initial framing, since May, there has been no limits or restrictions on the number of humanitarian aid trucks that can enter Gaza. The biggest restriction over the past several months has been the UN refusing to collect & distribute aid inside Gaza.
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Really great not to have heard from multiverse for a few weeks. I wonder what he thinks of more countries saying they're going to recognize Palestine and how Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. Fuck, even MTG calling it.
MTG is a tankie, so that checks out. Recall Hamas visiting Moscow.Quote:
Originally Posted by liv2ski
Not up on the term but I know she's a pain in the ass. And as far as visiting Moscow, yeah so what? If the USA hates you you go to Moscow that's just how the game is played. Regardless perceptions are changing and the world is telling Israel their policies are fucked up.Quote:
Originally Posted by jono
live2ski and MTG, two Quaaludes in need of an inhaler new pairs of underwear. Two morons praising Starmer who accidentally incentivized Hamas to reject a ceasefire - makes perfect sense. A few Western politicians said they'd recognize Palestine in order to placate a vocal minority domestic audience with pious declarations that removed any incentive for compromise and — shockingly — sabotaged an imminent ceasefire and hostage release. Crazy how easy it is for low info morons to fall for the manufactured media consensus now trying to exonerate Hamas.
While Hamas sets the Western imagination on fire, in response Arab states called on Hamas to surrender. Countries in the region understand fanatic fascists who filmed their mass murder of Jews are bad for stability everywhere. Not just in Israel. Lebanon officially approved plans to disarm Hezbollah permanently, removing all their weapons and rockets. Shortly after the AP wrote a story calling Hezbollah's murderous, radicalized commanders were "survivors" and victims, even as Lebanon's own government made the decision that Hezbollah must be disarmed.
If countries like Lebanon are ever to be stable, prosperous and free then people like live2ski, who know nothing about history or the Middle East, and who side with fanatical Islamists need to sidelined. Modern. Day. Useful. Idiots. Better informed people understand why the Arab League condemned the October 7th attack and called on Hamas to release all hostages and lay down its arms
Reads like AI
sadly, the simple truth about Hamas's war in Gaza is to maximize Palestinian suffering, and then have Westerners blame Israel. The Bodywhompers' of the world reality confusion, willfully confusing reality with AI for example, is Hamas's main asset
I only counted two Betelgeuses
If you whisper mcski three times, a Hamas "freedom fighter" materializes in the mirror
Still reads like AI gibberish
lol, that's also what old guy bodywhomper said about the Beatles and their yeah, yeah, yeah's
Arab nations call for Hamas to disband and disarm.
No thought, just a jab
When wit runs dry, insults drip
Silence would speak more.
One of the few upsides of the site going to shit lol
Yeah, most days when the site was working Hamas supporters like mcski felt like Mussolini. On the upside, when it wasn't he felt like Mussolini in Italy.
@ bodywhomper: to wit, Arab nations also called on Hamas to release the hostages. Those three things 1) release the hostages 2) disarm Hamas 3) end Hamas political rule means Arab states' goals, even the Qataris are giving up on Hamas, are now aligned with Israel's goals in its war of defense against Hamas