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don't forget some of the people here are skiing for a living, I could have easily done that if someone was paying me but that is so 10 yrs ago that i could physicaly handle itQuote:
Originally Posted by The SnowShow
edit: as for the crowd hating IME nothing will do that better than Whistler, I couldn't wait to get out of town at 08 world cup and again a month at the 2010 Olympics
I like the small town hill
They are probably stoners.Quote:
Originally Posted by The SnowShow
This is where we've ended up - local skiing is becoming a smaller and smaller part of our ski season. During "prime time" we only hit Wanker Park once and Copper three times. But now that things have calmed down, we'll probably get another half dozen days at WP/Copper/A-Basin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster Highmen
Well, I'm not sure what to say. I had to give up riding because my spine degenerated. It's not a choice I made because I got bored with the mountains. One of my legs is about 50% paralyzed and my back is like shattered porcelain. This also totally screwed me workwise and financially. Not something I can just forget as every step I take involves dragging a lame leg around. If it gets any worse, the best thing I can look forward to is a triple level spinal fusion
My hometown has been destroyed by dirt pimps. Theres probably 5 times as many houses here now since when I moved here and the cost of living just tripled over five years but my income sure didn't. All the new people post covid completely suck ass. I cant stand them. They are unbelievably lame and boring petite bourgoiesie who, for some reason, seem to think they discovered the Valley. None of them can speak to anything for more than two damn minutes without changing the subject to the houses they just bought or are building. Most of the people I liked are long gone.
Nevertheless, I'm not wallowing in it like some people in here. You guys need some perspective. Things may suck but at least you weren't some poor fool who got his face blown off by an IED in Iraq. You dont pick refuse in a 3rd world garbage dump. We all die in the end but at least you got a chance to truly live. About 90% of the people in the world never really do. Take some comfort in that. Its the nature of Americans to focus on how much better some have it while overlooking how much worse most people's lives are than our own.
I cant ride anymore but not many folks around here catch as many fish as I do and FUCKING NOBODY around here has as many mushroom patches as I do. It is what it is.
Buster Mofro '24
#make skiing great again
I think there is a lot of gratitude and levity here but maybe that's just me?
La Grave '25
A croque monssoir and a genepie and the P3 resturant and a sunset cruise to the village will make you love skiing again
Sent from my Turbo 850 Flatbrimed Highhorse
I've missed the k00keraderie with you over the last few years. Skied and had a great time with LB last Jan, miss Cletus, Hev and the old Coloradians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
With L having the potential of a good right knee in the near future, we pine about our first time in LG in 1996 and are planning a return. But yeah, the Alps gas me up everytime, vendul is a big part of that heart and action. We got Splugened good this year and getting to know the jhposse of Djongo, Swerve and lindenle has been the foie gras on the lobstah. It's the search, the surprises arond the corner that give me moto.
I don't mean to convey I don't feel lucky, I do, I'm so fucking lucky in so many dimensions for food, shelter, love and place. But it's a mistake not to ack the dark that comes around, particularly when others feel it. Like it or not, we're a god damned community even though our touch is limited to the digital dactyls across the wires. So I think some commiseration is valid. And more BBIs (more on that as the year develops).
As far as timing, things started tp erode around here about 2000, when Crustal got the gondy and more ad space. More people moved here for the lifestyle and there's a vibe to that that's different.
For Silverton, it was covid.
For those that have faded away from skiing as your primary winter activity, what else are you doing to keep yourself fit / happy / occupied during those cold, dark winter months? I still ski a fair amount and enjoy it a lot of the time, but I've struggled to find something else to do in the winter to keep my fitness and spirits up. Going to the gym would handle the fitness aspect, but would decidedly not work for the spirit part.
The key for my enjoyment of skiing is low expectations. It's part of why I don't enjoy "powder days" (though I enjoy the hell out of powder skiing); everyone is so amped expecting the most awesome turns, and it feels stressful AF. But in general, I like skiing and like making turns and I structure my approach to include skiing but have low expectations for it. So I am often in the crack of noon club because that helps make parking easy, I try to ski lifts that don't see as much action but also don't tweak about lift lines, etc.
Yeah, that's the hard part for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
Yeah, that's me. I haven't skied less than 100 days since my last year in college '95-'96. That said, skiing is really frictionless for me, I just put my ski clothes on and walk down the hall whenever I want. Sometimes I hit send on an email and notice it's 2:45 and think why not? and go... As much as certain aspects of condo living bug me, trading our little condo for a house 30 minutes away isn't a trade either of us want to make. I don't know how much I'd ski anymore if I-70 or LCC was part of the program, nothing about that looks easy or fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by The SnowShow
It's still way more fun than anything else I do, by a factor of like 100X. The bc is getting less interesting for me, after 25+ years it's hard for me to ski new things locally, and that's a big motivational factor for me for the bc.
Mountain biking is a struggle anymore, it was never my main sport, just something to do until the next ski season. That's getting worse and worse, I find it really boring for the most part but I do it anyway.
You guys think you're tired?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uai7M4RpoLU
I don't know how to solve life's problems, but I believe if you watch that film (again) you'll feel better, at least for a little while.
Sorry to hear about your back. Have you seen Dr Smith at TVH? He's a spine/ pain specialist and he's been helping me get through a back injury. What you are describing sounds way more serious than what I'm dealing with, but I've had good experiences with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by neckdeep
I'm a lame new person but I'm down to hang. In the summer I'm into some low impact stuff like floating the Teton and gravel riding. My neighbors and I play board games if that is of interest. Would also be down to grab a drink too.
15 is my limit on schnitzengruben!
What is this skiing thing you people are talking about?
Like 10 years ago I got almost 60 days in Utah while living on the east coast but since then new shit has come to light. At this point activities where impact is a likely result really need to be thought about. If I knew how to ski slow it would be a lot better. Maybe I'll learn to telemark.
Bahaha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
I still get about 40 days a season on the hill, but I've really embraced classic XC skiing. I got into about 20 years ago while watching mid-Atlantic winters disappear in real time. Constant snow-rain-warm cycles destroy the resorts, but even a couple of inches of snow meant you could nord-dork around the local trails or head down to Whitegrass. Living out west has spoiled me for sure, but I still get the odd dozen or so days out on the XC gear - even if it's just a quick 30 minute jaunt on the golf course with the dog after work. You can do as little or as much as you feel like, for me it's just about being outside and enjoying another way to play in the snow.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
I used to be able to ski a lot.. Ski bumming winters in Canada and Taos then teaching at Vail..when I was disinvited to return to Vail ski school because of some valid remarks I made during a training clinic, I started going to Hawaii as often as one of my Taos years roommates let me..couch surfing at his place for 6-9 weeks a year. .. Then all I did was hike or occasion surfing.. ,, made lots of new friends..joined some hiking clubs ..made more friends...then a wakeboarding cable park opened up 15 minutes from where I live.. I fell in love with that and do that during the summer..the wakeboarding led to trips to Philippines during winter time...less Hawaii time.. But much more adventurous.. ..and more friends.. Living cheaply.. Credit card churning for airline miles.. And staying with friends or friends of friends makes it affordable... I still ski very occasionally, but my knee problems and the cost of skiing makes it so I don't miss it very much.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
I got 45 days on the hill, I love carving on ice, it’s what we do back east. Are y’all getting enough vitamin D, how bout yoga? Yoga is freaking awesome. So much good free content on YouTube. Get a mat and get in the flow.
It’s astonishing to me how many guys here that I thought were much younger are actually old fucks like me and I’m not sure whether it’s horrifying or inspiring lol
I guess on the positive side TEH Trgz provides some us a kind of internet fountain of youth for our online personas ;). Our Immorality is subject to the whims of the box fan
what the fuck is wrong with you?Quote:
Originally Posted by ötzi
Well yeah, that tooQuote:
Originally Posted by mcski
The older you get the harder it gets. But the second you stop it's done.
Don't.
Fucking.
Stop.
It's not worth it. I saw a great instaweb post that had a series of triads about how hard life is. One was this:
Obesity is hard
Being fit is hard
Choose your hard
And then I listened to a great podcast on The Ringer with Dan Lieberman on it who was presenting all this info on how it's possible to keep going with all kinds of active stuff till you are quite old. And in that moment I realized that it wasn't that the activities I do were getting harder now that I'm a little older. It's that life is getting harder, and the activities reflect that. And if I quit something that's harder or more of a pain in the ass now, things will seem easier for a bit till my mind and body lose the edge that thing was giving me, and then it'll get hard again, or kinda boring again, until I quit something else.
And that is how people age (to greatly simplify the science Lieberman presented.) They quit stuff.
Well, fuck that.
I'm gonna do the shit I do till I literally cannot. And when that happens, I'll find new shit. I lift weights to allow that to happen - absolutely will not work without that. I go skiing even when I don't feel like it - and there has not been a single fucking time when I've gone up the hill and gotten on the lift out of obligation that I've not come home happy I went. Every fucking time - I'm happy I went. Cause I'm outside, in the mountains, making turns on snow. And I'm always in a better mood when I come home. Same with biking. Same with soccer/hoop - fuck even pickleball if my wife drags me to that. Same with backpacking. Surfing even though I'm not skilled enough for where I surf and I get the shit kicked out of me. It is ALWAYS a good idea to go. So I always will. Always say yes. Always go. Until you can't. Cause when you stop, you may never be able to start again.
It's not the activity that's getting harder or more of a pain in the ass. It's life. The activities just reflect that.
Fuck - Eddie Would Go. Didn't matter the conditions, or who else was there, or how uncomfortable it was. Eddie Would Go.
So will I. Every. Damn. Time. Simply have to.
PreachQuote:
Originally Posted by EWG
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Y’all should take up tele skiing! For those that are burning out on that, I recommend tele ski ballet, then tele snowblades, then tele snowblade ballet, then monoskiing.
Maybe a trip to the eastern Sierra, long valley, owens valley, and Death Valley.
9 mos till I'm 55.5. The 401k is the emergency emergency backup. Breaking into that anytime soon practically guarantees that I'll be eating dog food in retirement, if im lucky, instead of most probably eating dog food.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
I feel a tiny bit better today, but not about my job. I'm tired and got a bunch more hours to do before I go to bed. Taking a shower this morning did wonders. I almost skipped it. Don't ever skip it if you're feeling down.
Everyone's situation is different. I'm definitely burnt out. Which makes it hard to do just about anything. Stay, go, it all seems hard when you're down. And when the job sucks up most waking hours, good luck.
I've never been a highly motivated person. I have horrible time management skills. I've always been like that. I'm scattered. Middle age, burn out, and most probably depression makes it worse.
Definitely don't stop. I agree once you stop it's a bitch to start up again. Unless of course you have some major injury that just makes it impossible to continue.
I just think about what a bitch it is to start up on the weight lifting after an injury or illness lays me up for just a week. Just one damn week off, and then getting going again is a PITA. Feels like I lose 12 weeks worth of fitness in just 7-10 days.
Sucks getting old but sucks more not fighting getting old.
And I'm happy if I can get at least 25 days on the hill. Last 6 seasons I've managed to get close to 50 days. This year I might hit 40.
Motivation is when it comes easy. Discipline is the true challenge. Our job is to step to our kryptonite. Just focus on making incrementally better decisions. Like the shower. Or 50 jumping jacks. Or starting on your resume/CV. Or choosing a salad.Quote:
I've never been a highly motivated person. I have horrible time management skills. I've always been like that. I'm scattered. Middle age, burn out, and most probably depression makes it worse.
Don't make progress contingent on things you don't control. Invest in yourself. 54 isn't very old.
Lifelong snowboarder but I did do a season on teles back east just to mix it up. Never made it off the blues, but had a lot of fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
89 suburban, slab city, ,30 pack of Utica club, make wind chimes out of roadside garbage. Live happily ever afterQuote:
Originally Posted by riser4
YMMV as they say but my 50's were really good, lots of money no job and the body was running pretty good definatleyy the best shape eva on the skin track
a blown ACL just before covid was tough but i'm coming back
I recommend E-bikes and micro dosing
you tell us this every week, we KNOW, ok?Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
I recommend not telemarking for sure, but pick up new challenges. I keep my weekly 2x week league disc golf and have been adding in some skatepark days and field recording. I will add that being around much younger people really sinks in in a good way.
I've been getting out of Flagstaff every chance I get and spending that time in Kingman. The city gave me a gig so I could make ends meet and continue doing trail stuff over there so this winter I'd work 4-5 hours some days (ride others) doing design work, leading volunteer trail days and building. I usually call it between 2-3 and then head to the local brewery to sit in the late afternoon sun with friends and kill 3-4 beers before eating dinner and calling it a day. A buddy has been letting me stay in his trailer. It's been heavenly and these activities are my current happy place. The historic downtown is so damn peaceful. While we sip our beers enjoying the sunshine the only sounds beyond our conversations are all of the birds singing away and laid those beers at the Black Bridge Brewery are delicious!Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
well if it bothers you that much your life must suckQuote:
Originally Posted by muted reborn
Fatbiking in winter out your back door onto trails - it’s not a complete substitute for skiing (there’s not that weightless and flying at a high rate of speed sensation) but it’s outdoors, it’s exercise, it can be fun, it doesn’t involve crowds or parking or lift tickets, and even a 30minute ride feels great - especially after you get home, warm up in the shower, and then go about your day.
That sounds pretty damn awesome. Makes me wish I wasn't so far from a drivable winter bike destination.Quote:
Originally Posted by raisingarizona13
In! Does it come with free meth?Quote:
Originally Posted by byates1
Could be another side hustle like the wind chimes.
Artisanal.
That’s the spirit! Really, not kidding.Quote:
Originally Posted by EWG
I previously posted that my local hill is like home. Small local mountains are where it’s at. Short drive times, I know most everyone I see on weekdays and most of them on a first name basis. Community. I ski regularly with many septuagenarians and octogenarians. I love skiing all types of snow and terrain. I love the other seasons too, hiking, cycling, backpacking, swimming etc. just get out.
Perspective, we’re so lucky. Life is great enjoy the ride whatever it is that gets you excited.
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I’m in my late 30s and some of my (mostly unfit) relatives are asking if I’m gonna ‘’slow down.’’ I would rather have young person health problems than old person health problems if I can help it.Quote:
Originally Posted by EWG