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Thnx for the link. Will check that out.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
I’ve never bought a new car. Wife and I were looking on carvana yesterday and saw used current gen awd sienna le’s for more than what Toyota quotes for new when I “build” an LE on the Toyota website. I think I’m missing something but not sure what I’m missing.
Maybe try cars.com
https://www.cars.com/shopping/result...ivetrain_slugs[]=all_wheel_drive&include_shippable=true&keyword=&l ist_price_max=&list_price_min=&makes[]=toyota&maximum_distance=100&models[]=toyota-sienna&monthly_payment=&page_size=20&sort=best_mat ch_desc&stock_type=all&year_max=&year_min=&zip=980 29
It is probably because there is/was a 6 month wait to get into a new one at msrp. My dad jumped on a waiting list in December, ordered it in the spring when his turn came up at the dealer, and received it mid June. White, awd, only option was a roof rack. Low 40's.Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
That wait has probably dropped some. But a six month backlog takes a while to burn through, especially when Toyota seems happy to keep production low in order to not have to put incentives on vehicles, and their dealers are sitting on high demand products producing guaranteed income so their complaints about supply are pretty muted.
As with Toyota and Subaru for the last 25 years, buying new is often nearly as good a deal, sometimes better, than a newer used version.
Yeah ugly, I have a 2021 Prius and a 2018 BMW and I mean I know the Toyota is basically like an appliance, but it’s like an appliance that constantly works and is pretty OK. I drive it like I stole it and I get 47 miles to the gallon. My wife who drives well like an old lady gets 55 mpg. The new Sienna had just come out when we went to get the Prius and there were zero anywhere, but in California.
^^ My son had a similar experience with a Sienna in Syracuse. Was on the waiting list and they called him and said, "Somebody ahead of you on the waiting list turned down our offer because the van is white. You have 2 hours to come sign the paperwork or we're moving on to the next person on the list." Crazy. I'm happy with the Honda Odyssey after 5 days of ownership. Already ditched that middle seat in the 2nd row and now thinking about a DIY roof rail and crossbar installation.
I perused the Odyssey Owners Club forum and the people on there are as bad as the ones on the Ridgeline forum. These knuckleheads are spending thousands on wheels, tint, LED underglow, etc. It's still a fucking minivan (NTTAWWT). I was looking to see if anybody had tackled the steering wheel upgrade/replacement.
On the ChryCo minivan forums that's not so much of a thing, we're all too busy getting advice on our mechanical problems :rolleyes2
Not for the meek but totally doable.Quote:
Originally Posted by MyNameIsAugustWest
https://www.collegehillshonda.com/in...eringwheel.pdf
I picked up a 2020 about twoQuote:
Originally Posted by johnnyg82
months ago. I like the drivetrain. The 2 liter turbo requires a light foot not to sling everybody around.
Mine has a camping configuration and some suspension modification (lifted a couple inches) so I don't know how similar it handles to a stock passenger van. I can't say it's an enjoyable vehicle for spirited driving because it's not. I take it pretty easy in mine as I have a feeling it could get away from you pretty easily. Lots of sway and dive if you over drive it. But, I love it as a daily driver mostly due to the ease of adding and subtracting toddler from the car seat.
But the Subaru warranty is only 3/36 new and is 7/100 on CPO cars. That bit me in the ass once and caused me to trade a car with a minor problem that was disastrously expensive less than two years after purchasing it and saved me thousands on the CPO car I traded it for.Quote:
Originally Posted by uglymoney
Subaru warranty is far too short. Same with VW. And I wouldn't really consider driving either one without. They have far too many weird problems.
Unless I'm hooning a high mileage beater for fun. And profit.
Toyota has like a 8-yr warranty on hybrid batteries, right? What’s the story with longevity on their batteries?
Anecdotally, forever. I have a buddy that's owned 5 Prii, and they've all gone well into the 200ks on original batteries.Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
Sienna still at the top. I've always been a fan of the Odyssey, but no denying that the current gen is getting old and is long overdue for a Hybrid powertrain and AWD.
https://www.caranddriver.com/ranking...-vans/minivans
260k on our 2012 Prius V, purchased brand new, still on the original traction and 12v batteries. Easy DIY when it finally goes.
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Is it an equally easy swap on the Lexus CT200h? They're finally starting to show up at reasonable prices but often with really high miles but in seemingly great shape otherwise.
Yup, 8yrs/100k on every model hybrid I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
We bought Mrs. Snowaddict's new Rav4 hybrid with plans to keep it 'forever.'
I would assume, same architecture, but I'm sure a youtube DIY would have the answer if you find one you like.
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Thanks, all. I know several prii owners who have very high mileage w/o battery issues, but haven’t considered if their good experience was the norm.
First time I had to put plywood in the Sienna. It would be nice if those middle seats folded flat or came out easily but it wasn’t all that big a deal. Of course the car beeped at me that tailgate was open all the way home.
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Butt safety first!!!
I've been really happy that I have a full 8' length a few times now. The 48.2" width is a bonus because I rarely move full plywood sheets. I wish the tailgate opening was 4' high so I could put mt bikes in with the front wheel on. If/when I replace this thing that's a primary requirement.
I did that all the time with my old 2016 Odyssey.Quote:
Originally Posted by gravitylover
My fat old self likes long travel forks or, on my comfy bikes, higher rise bars.Quote:
Originally Posted by plugboots
36” inseam here, no dropper post
Hybrid sienna update. While the middle row seats aren't (easily) removable, if I slam them all the way forward, I (5'9") can sleep comfortably behind them. And I mean properly behind them, not with my feet between them.
There are some cleats and bumps in the floor that require a decently thick pad / mattress to cover, but otherwise, it was a decent place to sleep.
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shoulda gone with the blue tarp...
fact.
Yup, I love that I can put 10 footers in my POS. Of course, now that I have it running pretty well and getting great mpg for a 227k mile rig but I think the tranny rebuild is only gonna last ~60k, it's really working like shit :(Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
YupQuote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
This tracks with my experience too. Would it be nice to be able to remove (or fold away) the middle seats? Yes. It would also be nice to have an option for a smaller center console or to be able to remove it entirely but other than that, I don’t think I have any complaints with the Sienna.
Traveling for work and all they had left was a 2025 Pacifica, <1000 miles. Interior is super comfy and it has carplay, so it's been a fine vehicle for my needs. Man, the transmission is a dog in this thing though. I'm in the Smokies and it's always hunting for a gear.
Agreed on that. Only other complaint I'd add is that I want the rear suspension to be stiffer. When the van's loaded down and there's 4 bikes on the hitch, the rear end rides pretty low. It looks like there are finally some airbags on the market that fit gen 4 Siennas, so that's probably on my to-do list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brownski
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Good pointQuote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
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Get that azz up!
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Sorry for the fucked up way TRG reacts to my using the phone. What I said was, "So, nothing's changed since 1993? After sending 2 back to Chrysler under 2 different states' Lemon Laws I vowed to never, ever buy another Mopar product."
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I had the same experience when I rented mine (Caravan) about a year ago. Seemed fine, not sure I’d buy one though.
Yeah these ChryCo trannies are always searching for a way to upshift and it seems to try the hardest when the motor is approaching it's happy place. I put it in the gear I need for the situation otherwise the under-drive unit takes over. It's like a half gear down which is great for gradual hills and more mundane needs but lets it search for upshift opportunities. From what I understand nobody has cracked Chryslers transmission tunes since the old 41TE.
Heh, didn’t know which thread to put this in but found this one first so…
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Maybe all of us Sienna drivers should start tooting our horns and waving when we pass, like the jeep people do
At long you you guys don't start ducking each other, it's all good
Afraid you won't get an invite?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruiser