You should be able to run 10spd w/o any issues. In some cases there may be a really slim spacer to make it compatible.
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You should be able to run 10spd w/o any issues. In some cases there may be a really slim spacer to make it compatible.
If I vote for 2 laps does that mean we can keep it at 3?Quote:
Originally Posted by huckbucket
Yeah the zwift group dynamics take some adjustment. The draft effect is lower (like around half of real life I think), so you always have to be on it, even downhill unless it's steep and fast enough to super tuck.
There's also a cumulative speed effect of the blob so that it goes faster without actually needing to organize and take turns. So for example some guy tries to go off the front, he can sit there doing 5+ w/kg and the group will catch up even with everyone else doing much less. Essentially, you can't do it, so don't try. That also means you really don't want to fall off the back because you'll never catch back up.
Question for the guys who rode on week 1:
IF we made the start time of ride 1hr or 1.5hr earlier, would you still be able to make the ride?
A bunch of the East Coast guys want it earlier, but I don’t want to change the time and loose 6 guys to gain 2 or 3 new East Coast riders?
I can likely make that work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs
I wouldn't be able to swing that, but I am the oddball time zone...
Maybe an East coast night and a west coast night? Us in the middle can likely make both nights and keep a decent volume of peeps in the group?
Jamal, what night is the Missoula group ride/race? Weds?
The new series starts next thursday, and they are at 5:15 now. They're longer routes and I think the idea is more of a group ride than a race but I'm sure it can be as hard as you want it to be.
If anyone here wants to join, signup here and follow Shaun on zwift and you should get an invite every week
https://runsignup.com/Race/MT/Missou...etrotterSeries
Earlier is fine for me. That other thing I disappeared for last night is a 6:45 mst ride/race I'd like to try to do on a regular basis. I think the length was probably good too.
That's fine with me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs
How about a Tuesday Night and Thursday Night ride. One 6:00 EST (4:00 MNT) and one 6:00 MST (8:00 EST)
I'm good for both. nights either time. I'll set it up for next week once I see a bit more feedback.
I’m bummed I missed Tuesday that sounded like a lot of fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs
This would be rad. I wouldn’t ever be able to make the earlier EC ride b/c work, but will probably be able to make the 6pm mst laps.
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That's awesome. You guys can drag and guilt me back into fitness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs
Extra points if we do BOTH rides in the same day?
(cause I'm sick in the head and trying to drop lbs)
edit: and if we schedule two on the same day EWG can have his three laps .... pansy. :wink:
Hey man, that's completely uncool and untru...Quote:
Originally Posted by huckbucket
...ok maybe that's true.
I am in for any times between 4pm to 6pm MST. I would love to ride both nights if we do a Tues and Thurs ride. Selfishly I would like the Tuesday ride to stay at it's current time of 6pm MST and the Thursday (east coast night) ride be at 4pm MST so I can hit both.
Now I am confused. This is the trainer I have been using for a couple years....they call it the "smart 2" but it's not actually a smart trainer? Because the resistance doesn't change based on the course? It's solid state fluid resistance. I just can't throw down for a new trainer right now but want to keep doing zwift races.
https://www.kurtkinetic.com/trainers...achine-smart-2
I’m the opposite timing. Standing 4pm MST Thursday meeting. Could make it at 5MST though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
You got it. That's a dumb trainer. You know that little hill on the circuit we did? Feels a LOT harder when the smart trainer slams on the resistance. Not only do smart trainers change resistance to match the terrain (up, down, drafting), but they also display your wattage and cadence. Totally different experience. But don't stop just cause you're not able to swing it at this point. Riding anything is key.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
6pm East Coast time on Tuesdays works best for me - I have PT on Thursdays.Quote:
Originally Posted by EWG
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I can do any of the proposed times from Maine, shit I got nothing else to do at night right now. I'm doing a Fondo workout program but can fit that in around whatever these end up being.
Your trainer at least measures power, which is the main thing. Important to keep in mind that the wheel on ones are very dependent on tire pressure and tension so just make sure you keep those consistent and calibrate the trainer often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
What you're missing without the smart trainer is more the feel and feedback on hills. In zwift you can even adjust it from no change in resistance for hills to 100% I tried it at 100% for awhile but it actually seemed less realistic so I'm back closer to the default of 50%.
Ok yeah. I have a cadence sensor on my crank arm too. Am I correct in my understanding that since it isn't a smart trainer Zwift knows to "fake" the resistance when I start to go up an incline in the game? Like I have to certainly shift, pedal harder, even get out of the saddle to maintain pace on a climb.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamal
If I have the tire pressure under 120 it gets very difficult. At least I am using a real trainer tire.
It doesn't look like that one can change resistance? Regardless of whether you have zwift changing resistance, speed is still determined by power, weight, and grade (and then to a lesser extent your bike/wheels and height). You just have to increase wheel speed to add resistance and generate more power. With the smart trainer it's the other way around - go up a hill and the trainer makes it harder to pedal and you have to shift to an easier gear.
With "full realism" it was hard to compensate for slight grade changes. Kind of cool how hard it made the steepest parts of climbs though - like I'm in my lowest gear out of the saddle at 65rpm. Toning that down a bit is nice and lets you pedal at a little higher cadence on the steep climbs as well as generate more power on descents.
“Fake the resistance” is not an accurate description.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
With my smart trainer, if I have my head down texting on my phone, or changing the TV channel and I’m not paying attention to the Zwift screen, I feel it in my pedals that I’ve hit a hill and I need to pedal harder to maintain my cadence and keep the power up.
Where as with your dumb trainer Zwift just calculates your height, weight, bike weight, aero setup, draft, and you just go slower (your speed drops) going up the hill. Thus you have to increase cadence and power to propel yourself faster up the hill. Your 200 watts on flat make you go 35 km/h, your 200 watts on a 8% slope make you go 6 km/h, so you shift and pedal harder to make your guy go 12 or 18 km/h. You don’t actually feel the hill, you just have to work harder on the hill.
Same thing with a downhill on a smart trainer, that climb on Innsbruckring, I can put my head down, even close my eyes and burry myself on the 4 minute climb, and even with my eyes closed I can feel my self (trainer) crest the climb and start the decent, I shift from 50-28 to 50-16 to 50-11 to maintain my watts and to keep up with the group on the downhill. I could do all this blind, just by the feedback from the trainer.
Hope that makes sense.
It’s on! Meetup sent:
Tuesday 6pm MST
Thursday 6pm EST
Same course, same length, same invites.
Should trainers depreciate like most gear? I know most people on CL don't realize their stuff is overpriced. Scarcity due to covid has changed the market though.
https://bozeman.craigslist.org/spo/d...239871073.html
It's the covid effect as you suggest. Will be tough to find a good deal unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
How does one get an invite/find these meetups? I’m game for trying to hang onto the group..
Follow me on Zwift and I can invite you, let me know your Zwift name (PM me if its your real name and don't want to post it here). I'll invite you to the TGR meet ups.Quote:
Originally Posted by grrrmountainman
Great thanks just followed you - zwift handle is just G R
We have 19 riders:
Dee Hubbs
lowagriz
Doughnuts01
Whiteroom_Guardian
buttahflake
jamal
ticketchecker
wendigo
joetron
kathleenturneroverdrive
justcuz
huckbucket
Merlyn
scharny
yanos
EWG
XtrPickles
VTskibum
grrrmountsinman
I’ll keep adding to this list once I see another follower.
Thanks again to DH for organizing this! Should be fun.
I will try to make the meetups again this week, but no race finish for me until I get a real trainer!
I’m in for Thursday, let’s party!
So tonight, right? Every week?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs
If tonight, I'll be there waiting for huckbucket to give me shit...
Will be there too. Mostly just to keep EWG honest about his weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by EWG
Heads up that Companion cuts out for me sometimes which means I may not be able to chat. Rest assured I'm thinking bad thoughts about all of you.
I'll be there but leaving early again. Will be in thursday's ride too. For the whole thing!
See y’all on Thursday, ride on.
One from today in Innsbruck
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I should be able to join for tonights ride..
I can't believe you don't think I'm actually 106 lbs. I'm very careful about my diet.Quote:
Originally Posted by huckbucket