I would imagine that rule will put a hurt into patrol for some places. No word yet to ski areas in Maine beyond general guidelines which would be very tough to run
Been bummed since my county turned orange. Thinking not turning green for a while
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1lWJXDG2i0A
Waist deep drifts at Smuggs today—nice morning for a walk with skis (or snowboards if you gotta be that guy)
Kinda chalky, kinda sugary. Dense and warming upside down. What do you say? Cold or spring wax?
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What are the rules for patrons from out of state? Seems to me that would be more of an issue that resort workers.Quote:
Originally Posted by iriponsnow
Workers can come, ski areas try to limit it. Iriponsnow was wrong.
Skiers will need to attest to and follow the travel restrictions.
Stowe had a solid 10-12 with deeper drifts. Snow was definitely funky. 6inches of windslab on powder. Had to seek out steeper stuff to get any turning done.
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You sure you scraped your storage wax off?Quote:
Originally Posted by Laps
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" ski areas are not to rely on out of state workers...."Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebird
What are you quoting?Quote:
Originally Posted by iriponsnow
Fresh from Gov. Scott:
SKI RESORT GUIDANCE
As for ski resorts, six safety measures are being put in place to reduce the spread of COVID-19.
1. Visitors must comply with travel guidelines.
2. Contact tracing information will be collected.
3. Ski areas must reduce the number of out-of-state staff.
4. They must reduce lift capacity to 50-percent unless those visitors are traveling together. Gondolas can only carry one party unless they’re big enough to comply with a six-foot buffer zone.
5. Day-use lodges must reduce capacity to 50-percent or a maximum of 75 people in that space.
6. Ski areas must loosen cancelation policies so sick people don’t feel pressured to come here or lose money.
Storage wax on junk boards???Quote:
Originally Posted by Peruvian
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The presser that was live streamed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebird
looks like I'll be sitting all winter; hopefully in my plow truck scraping up as much tuition money as I can.....
d. Out-of-State StaffingQuote:
Originally Posted by iriponsnow
• Resorts shall reduce the number of employees and volunteers who come to Vermont for weekend work – such as ski patrol, ski instructors and other work. They must operate with the minimum out-of-state staff necessary to safely operate the resort.
• The state’s existing travel guidance does not require quarantine for those traveling for work – however, relying on a large number of out-of-state workers who travel from areas with a high incidence of COVID-19 poses additional risk that could inversely impact a resort’s ability to operate.
Directly from the guidance.
that's some pretty squishy language and not a mandate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebird
So use as many daily/weekly travelers as you need to operate until an outbreak occurs in your staff causing you to shutdown?
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Originally Posted by Vt-Freeheel
Can’t understand why ppl see this as such an issue- stay in ur home state this year. Vermont does not need ur Covid Ass closing our slopes & interstate travel is kinda absurd at the moment.
Well, I guess anyone that is considered an essential worker Outside of VT is unwelcome, right? No cops, firefighters or EMTs
Well they are essential, Joe blow from Boston that is a mountain host is not and should stay home unless they quarantine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brownski
Without skier traffic resorts will cut operations if not close, some permanently. Is that what you want?Quote:
Originally Posted by iriponsnow
This- quarantine & we’re all good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boreas
Yes, I want all the areas to go NELSAP. C’mon man.Quote:
Originally Posted by slatham
That’s not how it works. I respect your states travel guidelines, you respect ours.
Are you planning on being a police officer, firefighter or EMT in whilst in Vermont? Or are you skiing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brownski
What about Jane Blow? Can she cum?Quote:
Originally Posted by Boreas
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Well played- this is a skin threadQuote:
Originally Posted by jhyatt
Sure but she needs to lay in bed for 7 days and get tested or spend 14 days alone, then we’ll welcome her cumming clean.Quote:
Originally Posted by jhyatt
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My point is that anybody who has to go to work every day can’t ski in VT this year under these rules. What do you guys figure is going to actually happen? Do people follow these rules and VT’s ski industry folds or do people lie on the forms and all the mountains (wink wink) go along with it so that they can survive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Boreas
I would prefer people to follow the rules both the guests and the services, we are after all in a pandemic. If the mountains can’t make money for the year let them shut down for the year and apply for emergency funding just like every other business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brownski
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You can ski in your home state. That’s how population health works related to infection control. Second, there are a ton of Covid Refugees here now & winter break for colleges is now Thanksgiving to February- we’ll be just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brownski
Because someone works, they are entitled to be a vector of disease on the hill in the name of saving the very same hill? What if they shut the hill down? What if they kill the liftie? Those folk are not the healthiest to begin with.
It must just be a coincidence that my CC got charged today for my Epic passes......and same day VT announces guidelines that say no go on the same day.....lol.
Life sucks...
Huh, VT has been saying this since pretty much April.Quote:
Originally Posted by BC.
Well....I was kinda hoping things would be better 10 months later?....and seeing it in writing on the same day my CC finally got charged...I guess makes it more real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boreas
I’m coming from a county that was/is/has been fluctuating in the VT green.....so we were able to take kids to school in August....but haven’t been up since in respect to VT state guidelines....
Sorry....this is an EC stoke thread...
if some vermonters went to mccauley for a huge dump tomorrow, would they be expected to quarantine for two weeks after sharing double chairs with dirty new yorkers?
I can stay out of VT this winter if that’s what is required. I’ll be fine. That’s not my point. It just seems like an over reaction to me. If these rules are going to be enforced, they should just shut down now. If they’re just gonna pretend these are the rules, what is the point of it all?
Apparently. And there are already tons of Vermonters flouting the rules. I’m back and forth to Albany on the thruway almost every weekend and there’s no shortage of green plates.Quote:
Originally Posted by ml242
Exactly. People can't seem to grasp the new normal. Most mountains will survive if the out-of-staters don't come. Some won't but maybe a relief bill will provide enough $$ to carry them over. I don't know shit about how Epic and Alterra operates but I do know that Magic has enough cash from pass sales this year to sail through with no day tickets sold. What will suck is the staff reductions that might have to happen if the season is greatly reduced. All of that pales in comparison to the Governor shutting it down in January due to spreader events at Killington, Sugarbush, and Stowe (it's gonna happen). Then everybody is unemployed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boreas
This is a bigger issue than the economic impact. Sorry my cousin from Boston, if you can't quarantine for 7 days and then get a negative test you can't come ski in Vermont. Does this suck for you? Yes...but if you spread the virus that kills my favorite bartender I'm going to pray that you rot in hell (not religious, just using a phrase). Can you live with that any easier than you can live with only skiing in NH or MA this year? Don't be shocked if NH jumps on the same train Governor Scott is driving. First and foremost, the role of any government is to protect its citizens. That's why Phil Scott will win the Governor-ship for 2 more years tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by iriponsnow
yeah, i’m all for vermont having whatever rules it sees fit. i do not care at all. it just seems like odd policy if the citizens there are potentially bringing covid back by flouting the rules that they set up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brownski
no more skinning pics from today?
Let’s all just follow the rules and see where this goes. I am not an armchair epidemiologist but do believe if people flock across state lines “to keep the resorts open” they won’t be.
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Originally Posted by Doremite
Props to Gov. Scott for joining the ECRC Moderation effort by keeping the out of state beaters at bay. There will be a similar announcement with a list of individuals who are going to need to quarantine themselves from this thread coming in the near future.
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The wind did a number on the snow yesterday