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Yeah the fed natural resource justice system is pretty fucked. They want big investigation cases for major crimes because that’s what they’re used to dealing with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopeless Sinner
Send them resource violations and they don’t really give a shit. Even finding an AUSA to take a lot of these cases to court can be difficult.
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Originally Posted by Conundrum
The Snake River Complex is also going on in the north end of the canyon near Craig Mountain . 40k acres burned so far. Grass and timber. Evacuation in place. Not much you can do under these conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/7636/
smokey in Wallace today too. lotta action, don’t like it
^^^You should be reading this if you’re in Wallace
Attachment 379155
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003WJQ7JO...ng=UTF8&btkr=1
Yep - BC is hard up when they call the lawyer to act as a structure protection specialist!
But I think we made some nice sets. Hopefully they aren’t tested but if they are here’s a prayer that they work as designed.
Had an exciting first 48 hours - things were calmer today. Attachment 379161
Great book!Quote:
Originally Posted by TBS
Bummer. Lots of conservation work has been going on there in recent years. Pretty area too.Quote:
Originally Posted by TBS
If you like his work check out this book - very good read. About a murder that took place in Spokane WA in 1935Quote:
Originally Posted by TBS
https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/com...l/18898837.jpg
SigworthyQuote:
Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy
Bootleg Fire, SW Oregon
Oregon's Bootleg Fire more than triples in size to 143,607 acres
(CNN)The Bootleg Fire in Oregon has more than tripled in size since Friday, gaining more than 100,000 acres, according to the US Forest Service.
The fire had burned 143,607 acres as of Sunday morning, up from nearly 39,000 acres on Friday, the latest update from the service's InciWeb website shows.
The fire, which is in the Fremont-Winema National Forest in the southwest of the state, broke out July 6 and "continues to burn actively," according to Sunday's update.
Officials expect the fire to be contained by July 27.
The cause of the fire is unknown.
According to a news release issued Saturday evening, conditions "were so extreme that firefighters needed to disengage and move to predetermined safety zones."
https://youtu.be/lJU4D9o2tNM
These things blow my mind. I pencil-whipped that growth as roughly 1 acre/second.Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
(143,000-38,000)divided by 86,400 seconds per day. An acre is somewhat larger than a football field.
Think about that - an average of more than a football field per second. We’re fuct.
Here's a time lapse of what that burn growth rate looks like
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...hare_fid=28572
That link doesn’t take me there.Quote:
Originally Posted by ntblanks
Air Attack Pilot and ATGS (air tactical group supervisor) identified. I knew the ATGS, which makes it suck even more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper
https://wildfiretoday.com/2021/07/11...en-identified/Quote:
Pilot Matthew Miller, 48, and Air Tactical Group Supervisor Jeff Piechura, 62, were on board a Beechcraft King Air C-90 aircraft conducting visual reconnaissance and aviation command and control over the fire. Mr. Miller was a fire pilot with Falcon Executive Aviation, Inc. contracted by the U.S. Forest Service. Mr. Piechura was an employee with the Coronado National Forest. Their remains have been recovered from the accident site.
It’s been a bad year for wildfire aircraft…so far.
tried to upload the image here. way too large (31mb).Quote:
Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper
put it on google drive:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16QP...pSqSzZBIp/view
(op by b0ardski)
^ Good job. That said, Jesus!
Yup, moving 5-10x faster than Olympic sprinters can cover the ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper
Inciweb page https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/7609/
That area is in extreme drought. It’s so bad no water is being released out of the Klamath system for ag or for salmon. It was an epic shitshow already and this is making it way worse.
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Martian sunrise on the San Rafael Swell this am. I was actually pretty elated we made it to mid-July before the smoke rolled in.
All my buddies are too old to be out on the line anymore, or too smart, but I hope those with friends and family out sorting green from black are safe.
Idaho and western Montana kinda suck right nowQuote:
Originally Posted by ntblanks
Great book, great writer. I might start a thread some time about his circle of writers - Kittredge, Richard Hugo, James Crumley, etc…the Eastgate Lounge crowd. Buster would probably drop in.Quote:
Originally Posted by TBS
Toss in some Craig Lesley too, even if he wasn’t part of the Montana crowd
Winterkill was awesome. Hell, Richard Ford too.Quote:
Originally Posted by TBS
Been thinking about all you folks and the animals out West. Stay as safe as you can
Well, the Bootleg fire only grew by 10k acres yesterday, or a mere 9 secs per acre.
And what is now called the Grandview Fire started yesterday afternoon about 15 miles NE of me. Grew to 2k acres by midnight. It’s in grasslands and scrub juniper that’s been nicely baked at 100* for the last month
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The nice thing about that kind of sage/PJ fuel in your pic is it should shut right off at night so if you can get a lot of progress made overnight and into the morning and then hang onto it as much as possible when it wants to run, you can do pretty good.
Remember that spot and go get some juniper firewood this fall…great stuff!
We shall see. Haven’t seen an update this AM and I’m about to engage in a battle of wits with a creature possessing a brain the size of a dried pea.
Sat view of Bootleg Fire at 1830 yesterday
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Even better to let the burn on that juniper weather off for a year or two and let it season standing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy
Then it's not all sooty when you cut it. Burns like coal.
Idiots everywhere:
Stevens County Sheriff's Office
July 10 at 4:42pm
This past weekend Stevens County area law enforcement and firefighters experienced a significant amount of added stress while conducting firefighting operations in the south end of the county.
Motorists were stopping on the roadway to watch the fire blocking the path for apparatus and personnel to respond into the area. Boaters were not moving to the sides of the lake to make way for aircraft scooping water. Several drones were spotted in the fire area.
In one case, one of the large aircraft had to nearly come to a full stop to avoid a collision with a boat. Launching drones in the area of aerial operations is not only illegal, it will potentially cause all operations to cease.
We ask that everyone please be responsible and use common sense when in the area of wildland firefighting operations. Everyone's safety depends on it.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3oEdv0...YGWc/giphy.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by KQ
Ya, into Yellowstone too. Smoke forecast for 11 am Tuesday:Quote:
Originally Posted by TBS
https://rapidrefresh.noaa.gov/hrrr/H..._z8sfc_f48.png
There is a fire on Highway 20 outside of Mazama right near Silver Star Mtn. I believe the Highway is still open but the campgrounds are closed:
https://mappingsupport.com/p2/gissur...dland_fire.txt
HWY 20 just closed from Early Winters to Silver Star Creek. Drove through yesterday, looked pretty grim and another fire starting on the other side of 20 on Delancy Ridge yesterday. Hope to get some good rain on these tonight!
Closing in on W2:
The blue dot on the on the map below shows the location of the City of Walla Walla. Gray areas on the map are smoke plumes. The AirNow Fire and Smoke Map website indicates that a smoke plume has been detected approximately 10 miles away to the NE.
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...9e&oe=60F14136
Can confirm the smoke sucks on the western edge of the Snake River Plain. We’re down to below 5 miles visibility.
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Can still see the foothills from downtown Boise but it looks gross.
Welp, it doubled overnight to 4K acres this AMQuote:
Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy
Bombed it until dark, back at it today
Attachment 379296
https://www.bendbulletin.com/localst...06288a123.html
It is scary dry here
2021 WILDLAND FIRES
(Name,Start,Contained,Acres,Updated)
ARIZONA FIRES
Rafael Fire. 6-20-21 0% 36,143 acres 6-24-21
West Chev Fire 6-19-21 0% 400 acres 6-24-21
Wyrick Fire 6-19-21 15% 7,452 acres 6-24-21
Rock Butte Fires 6-17/18 80% 802 acres 6-28-21
• Red Hat Fire - 49 acres – 100%
• Limestone Fire - 33 acres – 100%
• Spring Fire - 567 acres – 75%
• Rock Butte Fire – 126 acres – 85%
• Silent Fire - 27 acre – 100%
Backbone Fire. 6-16-21 6% 40,591 acres 6-28-21
Cornville Fire UNPINNING
Shamrock Fire 6-10-21 95% 1,104 acres 6-28-21
Pinnacle Fire. 6-10-21 60% 34,417 acres 6-28-21
Slate Fire 6-7-21 90% 11,435 acres 6-28-21
Telegraph Fire. 6-4-21 91% 180,756 acres 6-28-21
Mescal Fire. 6-1-21 100% UNPINNING
Courthouse Fire 5-29-21 UNPINNING
Warren Fire 5-25-21 100% 1,400 acres 6-28-21
Sycamore Canyon Fire UNPINNING
McDonald Tank Fire 5-23-21 95% 3,550 acres 6-28-21
Boggy Creek 5-22-21 70% 2,945 acres 6-28-21
Flag Fire 4-25-21 100% 1265 acres 6-28-21
CALIFORNIA FIRES
Lava Fire 6-25-21 20% 1,446 acres 6-28-21
King Fire 6-17-21 NEW 349 acres 6-17-21
Mojave Lightning Complex Fire NEW 100+ acres on 1 Fire, multiple fires
Willow Fire 6-17-21 NEW 20+ acres 6-17-21
Park Fire 6-17-21 NEW 300 acres 6-17-21
Casitas Fire 6-14-21 NEW 188 acres 6-14-21
Goose Fire 6-13-21 75% 67 acres 6-14-21
Flat Fire 6-13-21 60% 400 acres 6-14-21
Cloud Fire 6-12-21 50% 20 acres 6-12-21
Sierra Fire 6-9-21 20% 1000 acres 6-10-21
Fremont Fire 5-19-21 NEW 800 acres 5-20-21
Shasta-Trinity NF Lightning Complex Fire 5-15-21 OUT UNPINNING
Palisades Fire 5-14-21 100% 1202 acres 5-29-21
Dry Fire 5-9-21 95% 30 acres 5-29-21
Owens Fire 5-1-21 85% 1512 acres 6-14-21
Onion Fire 4-7-21 100% 85 acres 6-14-21
COLORADO FIRES
West Fire 3,100 acres
IDAHO FIRES
Tookush Fire 2 7-2-21 NEW
Tookush Fire 7-2-21 NEW
Little Pine Fire 6-22-21 UNPINNING
Fritzer Fire 6-22-21 75% 139 acres 7-2-21
Devil's Rd Fire 6-19-21 UNPINNING
Cold Creek Fire 6-14-21 100% 3,841.6 acres 7-2-21
Four Mile Fire 5-19-21 UNPINNING
Elk Fire 5-15-21 UNPINNING
MONTANA FIRES
Crooked Creek Fire 6-15-21 0% 5,100 acres 6-16-21
Robertson Draw Fire 6-13-21 0% 21,000 acres 6-16-21
Deep Creek Fire 6-13-21 0% 200 acres 6-14-21
NEVADA FIRES
Cottonwood Valley Fire 6-14-21 20% 400 acres 6-14-21
Sandy Valley Fire 6-10-21 60% 1,380 acres 6-12-21
Jacks Valley Fire 6-9-21 85% 285 acres 6-10-21
Wilson Creek Fire NV 30% 1,536 acres 5-29-21
Cherrywood Fire 5-17-21 75% 26,431 acres 6-12-21
NEW MEXICO FIRES
Cemetery Fire 6-12-21 30% 320 acres 6-14-21
Rincon Fire 6-11-21 0% 516 acres 6-14-21
Poso Fire 5-29-21 20% 1600 acres 6-14-21
Eicks Fire 5-24-21 60% 875 acres 5-27-21
Drummond Fire 5-20-21 0% 310 acres 5-30-21
Johnson Fire 5-20-21 11% 65,289 acres 6-15-21
Warsaw Fire 5-16-21 90% 950 acres 5-25-21
Doagy Fire 5-14-21 10p% 12,785 acres 6-12-21
Cuervito Fire 5-9-21 0% 1621 acres 5-27-21
OREGON FIRES
Sunset Valley 7-1-21 0% 987 acres 7-2-21
Rattlesnake Fire 6-30-21 0% 1,500 acres 7-2-21
Wrentham Market Fire 6-29-21 78% 7,222 acres 7-2-21-21
Lovlett Corral Fire 6-29-21 65% 110 acres 7-2-21
Finnigan Fire 6-27-21 NEW 1,000 acres 7-2-21
North River Rd Fire 6-19-21 UNPINNING
Cutoff Fire 6-19-21 96% 1,288 acres 7-3-21
S-503 Fire 6-18-21 98% 6,822 acres 7-2-21
Joseph Canyon Fire 6-4-21 95% 7610 acres 7-3-21
Dry Creek Fire 6-4-21 95% 1585 acres 7-3-21
UTAH FIRES
Flatt Fire 6-18-21 NEW 10,000 acres 6-18-21
Deer Spring Fire 6-18-21 NEW 20 acres 6-18-21
Morgan Canyon Fire 6-17-21 0% 7 acres 6-18-21
Broad Canyon Fire 6-11-21 UNPINNING
Pack Creek Fire 6-9-21 43% 8,938 acres 6-18-21
Bear Fire 6-8-21 14% 10,932 acres 5-14-21
East Canyon Fire 6-8-21 90% 897 acres 5-12-21
Mammoth Fire 6-5-21 93% 709 acres 5-14-21
Bennion Creek Fire 6-4-21 10% 7,724 5-14-21
Lamb Fire 5-20-21 80% 35 acres 5-25-21
Lone Cedar Fire 5-20-21 90% 25 acres 5-21-21
WASHINGTON FIRES
Green Ridge
Dry Creek Fire 7-7-21 20% 46,352 acres 7-11-21
Batterman Fire 7-4-21 10% 2,500 acres 7-4-21
Corkscrew Fire 7-3-21 NEW 30-40 acres 7-3-21
Cedar Hills Fire 6-28-21 UNPINNING
Lind Fire 6-27-21 UNPINNING
Koffman Road Fire UNPINNING
Hair Road Fire 6-21-21 UNPINNING
Vantage Hwy Fire 6-18-21 UNPINNING
WYOMING FIRES
Robinson Fire 6-10-21 29% 1,038 acres 6-14-21
From My Storm and Fire Info FB group
Heads up that SR 20 will FULLY CLOSE at 10 a.m. today - Monday - between mileposts 172-174 (about 20 miles west of Winthrop near Early Winters campground) for fire response activity. There is no estimate for when the highway will reopen so people should plan to use US 2 or I-90 for cross-state travel. We will update this post when we have more information.
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...89&oe=60F25442
This map, I think, makes smoke look way worse and widespread than other available maps or even satellite pics. Any experts want to comment? Is it just that the super light grey parts aren't really THAT bad?Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
I guess so!Quote:
Originally Posted by TBS
I dunno, I guess when sage and PJ are running all night get the fuck out of the way. That shit’s supposed to take a rest at night and let you get around it.
What a dirty cheating bastard of a fire to stay ripping all night, it’s just not right.
That’s happening more and more often. The way things were is not how they’re gonna be.Quote:
Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy