No that was from yesterday, there was another piece today, I couldn't find it earlier (even though it's right there in the paper today), I'll take another look in a bit here.Quote:
Originally Posted by FLS
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No that was from yesterday, there was another piece today, I couldn't find it earlier (even though it's right there in the paper today), I'll take another look in a bit here.Quote:
Originally Posted by FLS
Didn't Chicago pay ~$60m for ~500 Boeing HQ jobs in 2001?
The only people who were pissed by that were people in Seattle (and mostly only the ones who worked for Boeing)
FIFY.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Stainless
It's still very very industrial. I'm sure it's changed a lot in 5 years like you said, but the majority of that area has not changed much. Sure it's got some hi-rise apartments now and a few big companies have moved in, but it's a ghost town at night compared to Manhattan and other areas. Can't say I've been to every nook-and-cranny there, but if Amazon doesn't build a huge cafeteria with free food in their space, theres a big opportunity for small biz to open up storefronts in that area now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skidog
FIFYQuote:
Originally Posted by reckless toboggan
you think bezos took the subsidies just to let trump know his were bigger?Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
Still probably room for some eateries either way. Free food or not, you get bored. I'd tend to agree it's not Manhattan, but could be the next "Brooklyn".Quote:
Originally Posted by muted
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How original.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Stainless
Man, "the next Brooklyn" really makes me feel old. The last time I was regularly in/around NYC, it was still acceptable to refer to it as "Crooklyn."Quote:
Originally Posted by Skidog
The 7 will be hell. Especially when the Mets are playing.
I could think of one business to invest in, and that's food delivery. Queens is arguably the most diverse high quality ethnic food festival on Earth, certainly America. All kinds of food, and if you include Upper Brooklyn, a amazing place to just plug in some order on your phone, and it could be there within a half hour. Many think Flushing is far better than Chinatown. The Indian is killer. And on. They're gonna get fat.
The Amazon tech bros love their food delivery and food trucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
And improve the local area's curry establishments.
Bourdain did an episode on Queens, mostly Flushing, this past season.
Amazon doesn't do free food. Heck, all the restaurants around the HQ are pricier than I like to spend for lunch.Quote:
Originally Posted by muted
Fortunately the Mets season is over by the start of August.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
It truly is a cheapskate foodies paradise, and Lugers is an easy Uber ride.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
I would never try to deny the many obvious downsides and complications to existing residents of an area when something like this happens. However, I can't help but notice the consistent negative attitude that people generally have towards the technology industry which is generally speaking offering some of the better paying jobs available today. There is a broad assumption that working at a factory making hard goods is inherently admirable in a way that making IP or providing other services could never be. I don't get it.
Person A: "We want good jobs! With high pay! And benefits!"
Person B: "What about this one? It probably requires a college degree, and spending a lot of time on a computer...."
Person A: "Not that kind of job!!!" (Goes back to surfing the web on their phone, watching Netflix, playing video games, and buying things online.)
For full disclosure, I work for a technology company that is not Amazon. I haven't found the industry to be the utter hellscape it's purported to be.
It's our innate hate of nerds. Rich nerds is worse.
It's the gnawing reality that we have told these companies too much about our lives in exchange for too little. They aren't look out for anyone except #1, despite their "dont do evil" etc, credo's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dromond
What large companies that hire thousands of workers and pays them high salaries fits your criteria?Quote:
Originally Posted by char_
I understand the sentiment that people find the large tech company’s actions problematic or immoral. The consolidated power these companies hold is unprecedented and I don’t think that’s a good thing. However, I don’t think that explains the sentiment I described towards technology jobs and workers. Many large companies that produce hard goods aren’t exactly angels. Yet, people scream for more coal jobs, more oil jobs, more manufacturing jobs, more construction jobs. Meanwhile the demand for technology workers, medical workers, etc is enormous. The education and training gap is huge, so that’s clearly part of it.
https://www.cbsnews.com/media/the-9-...e-than-100000/
I see lots of negativity but not exactly that negativity. Mostly clog our roads, make home and rent prices too high, clog our roads, make restaurants too busy, artificiality raise prices on common goods, clog our roads, and take money from the tax payers needlessly.
I have to admit I'm not that well versed on the subject which is why I'm reading this, but I was just going to look for the positive if they came. Another 10% bump on house value, cool. Roads clogged, yeah what else is new.
I think the counter to this is that education is a huge barrier for many peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by Dromond
So, Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Tucker Carlson, and the Koch brothers have all denounced the Amazon subsidies. We have finally found an issue to bring us all together in America.
Those are good burgers Walter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
1) there is no tech industry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dromond
2) most self-proclaimed "tech" companys have little to no desire to hire "local" people for anything (part of the resentment can be a mono-culture of workers imported from elite schools). those "other" jobs will hire "local" people of many different education levels.
3) if you can't see how giving big tax breaks to imported workers who'll change the community with little attachment to it irritates people, can't help you. that's on top of the structural tax advantages IP production has ended up. You run all your income offshore and you need a taxbreak for your office? And you demand more serviceS?
4) medical jobs are a huge source of employment across education brackets in the US. something like 1/3 or 1/2 of the workers have an associates or less.
True that. See post #347 for further proof of that: https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...50#post5498350Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
When all of the above agree on something, then you KNOW something smells really bad with the situation.
And that's why Nebraska ain't happening. All these Midwestern simpletons who are proud of how simple they are can keep watching all the jobs fly over their state. Trump or no Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
No shit. Work smarter, not harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dromond
Or wait another 30 years for manufacturing jobs to come back...not
Yeah, well, sometimes it don't work out so well.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
Amazon pulls out of NY:
https://blog.aboutamazon.com/company...y-headquarters
Some people just lost some money in real estate but other than that I'm not sure it's a net negative for NYC. They were gonna have to give a lot to get it.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
But Stamford on the other hand, great fit.
Right? LOTS of empty prime office space there right now. Amazon could move right in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsy
Mega mansions in Greenwich on the cheap, international airports near by, Amtrak NE Corridor, business friendly Mayor & Governor. What is not to love?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
Plus all the fiber optic lines you could want because of all the wall street stuff that was there...it's a no-brainer. Hell they could get their own exit on 95, what's one more when there's already like 300?
Better Hot Chicken in TN maybe?
I was in Nashville for one night with my son back in early December, we were driving from New Orleans to DC and stopped for the night. We went and got Hattie B's chicken. That was some hot fucking chicken and we didn't get the hottest choice, we did get the second-hottest though. It was good shit.
We went to the Tabasco factory in Louisiana too and ate in the restaurant there, that chicken was not hot at all compared to TN.
Have a hotel i Nashville and the build out there already is insane.
I can barely recognize the place since I lived in Williamson County in the 80s
Plus intl airport?
I have rarely heard anything more insane than the radio traffic reports we heard while stuck in a crazy traffic jam trying to get into town in December. Wrecks and jams all over the place. Clear weather and it was bedlam.
Hattie B's is good. I like Prince's more but Hattie B's has more locations.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
You have a hotel here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsy
It's amazing what's been happening. Got really popular in like 5 years.
about right, we opened in late 2013.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Stainless
I really dug it there in 2011 or so but its a bit much these days.
Yeah we were gonna go to Prince's but Hattie B's was closer to the hotel and it was getting late because of the traffic. I thought about pinging you on here but it ended up we had pretty much no time.