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10-03-2011, 02:48 PM
Rasputin

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Originally Posted by MagicMtnPinhead

our positions are not mutually exclusive.

Do you think the specificity of Hector's derision was written into the script for no reason?

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Originally Posted by Mau

And exactly what tipped Gus off about his Volvo being rigged?

It probably dawned on him that there might be some ulterior motive to Jesse demanding he come to the hospital, however he didn't necessarily think there was something amiss with his car, he might have been looking out from the garage mulling things over (the thousand yard stare is common among thinkers, perhaps the scene was also there to highlight Walt's paranoia of Gus' pervasive awareness), and then turned back to go question Jesse.

We'll have to wait to find out. The way it is written is masterful, mysteries are created to draw viewers to ruminate on the details and what they might mean. I think the whole story is supposed to be surreal, suggesting the sort of paranoia and detachment from reality that meth tweakers live in the midst of.
10-03-2011, 05:00 PM
funkendrenchman

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Originally Posted by Socialist

I kept expecting Gus to smile and wave at walt.

The whole ricin thing seems forced to me as well. I was ready to believe that Brock had stolen the cigarette, and that Jesse was blaming Walt for making him carry ricin around.

Gus knowing that Jesse had ricin doesn't make much sense - letting jesse get him coffee, inviting him in for dinner, ...

I wonder if Brock will admit to stealing the cigarette. I wouldn't put it past Walt to use that moment to turn Jesse against Gus. I just can't see Gus poisoning Brock.
10-03-2011, 05:46 PM
Jer

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Originally Posted by Rasputin

I think the whole story is supposed to be surreal, suggesting the sort of paranoia and detachment from reality that meth tweakers live in the midst of.

But nobody on the show is a tweaker.
10-03-2011, 07:07 PM
Tap

Ok, just finished Crawl Space and scrolled past all comments to avoid seeing spoilers.

Fucking hell this is good shit. Razor wire tension. Love it!
10-03-2011, 10:48 PM
bennymac

my impression was that Gus didn't poison Brock - he seemed to do a 180 when he found out about the poisoning (although I can see how that alone doesn't mean he wasn't involved)

what if Walt poisoned Brock knowing that it would then force Jesse to confront him - which then Walt could use to turn Jesse back to his side (by convincing him that it had to be Gus behind the poisoning)?

what if Gus realised all of this on his walk back to the car and became suspicious that Jesse and Walt were now plotting to kill him?

just brainstormin' here - might be the beer talking
10-03-2011, 11:10 PM
doughboyshredder

That would certainly complete Walt's downward spiral in to a complete and total piece of scum, but there's no way that Walt could have gotten the cigarette out of Jesse's pack.
10-03-2011, 11:15 PM
BCMtnHound

I couldn't help but think at the end of this last episode, that this one is a bridge to the season finale. Not enough detail to flesh out what actually happened but enough to put us on the edge of our seats. The plot could go so many ways.
10-04-2011, 10:29 AM
leroy jenkins

I don't think Walk poisoned brock, I think for all walts sins he is still not someone that hurts kids.

I'm sure theres some explanation. If Gus wanted to poison brock I'm sure he could have done it without taking jesses cigarette. Also, how old is brock? possibly about the age he might want to try smoking cigarettes?

I think gus could of had something to do with it but I also think it could just be a fucked up coincidence.
10-04-2011, 02:39 PM
Jer

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Originally Posted by leroy jenkins

Also, how old is brock? possibly about the age he might want to try smoking cigarettes?

Exactly. Walt didn't take Jesse's cigarette, Gus or one of his henchmen didn't take Jesses's cigarette, Brock took Jesse's cigarette. This is the first thing I thought and it's what I continue to think. It was a freak accident that will now create mega-tension between everybody involved. Everybody's waaaaay to tense, maaaan.
10-05-2011, 01:26 AM
Ripzalot

it wasn't an accident. jesse knows that he had the cigarette that morning and remembers transferring it to his new pack. if brock had smoked it, they would have found him passed out with the cigarette (remember the ricin was in a little vial), surely that would have been mentioned and/or the vial found.

i'm really not sure if it was walt or gus. it doesn't seem that gus had enough intel on the cigarette to know about it. but tyrus had the opportunity to lift it from jesse at the lab. walt knew but when did he lift it? seems like the scene where he was spinning the gun wanted to give a clue that it was walt. VG doesn't do scenes like that without reason.
10-05-2011, 09:01 AM
Dantheman

I highly doubt it was Walt. I don't see how he would have had the opportunity. We know Jesse had the cig when he got to the lab. Even if Walt had somehow lifted the cig or made some new ricin, it's not like he could have just showed up to their house while Jesse was at the lab, knocked on the door and said, "Hi, remember me, I'm that creepy beat to shit looking guy Jesse almost kicked the shit out of when I showed up unannounced the other night. Can I give Brock some candy?" No way, wasn't Walt.

I also doubt Brock took the cigarette. Jesse seems pretty certain he had it when he left for the lab. Also, according to wiki inhaled ricin is much more toxic than ingested ricin so he probably would have died already if he had took it and smoked it.

Why would Gus take the risk to do it? He desperately wants to get rid of Walt and he has had great success manipulating Jesse thus far. He may simply have been overconfident and fucked up. As much as he has taken a shine to Jesse it's only because Walt was the alternative. I think he still sees him primarily as a reactionary shithead tweaker who would kill Walt as long as he gave him a reason.

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Originally Posted by Socialist

Gus knowing that Jesse had ricin doesn't make much sense - letting jesse get him coffee, inviting him in for dinner, ...

Those two incidents both occurred before Jesse and Walt discussed the ricin in Jesse's house before they brawled. I don't recall them blabbing about it in Jesse's house before that, just whispers at the lab and in the parking lot, but I could be wrong. Either way I always suspected Gus knew of the ricin from at least then on because I would be shocked if Mike had not bugged Jesse's house. It's also possible that Gus had Tyrus lift the cig to make Jesse suspect Walt and had someone else poison Brock while the two were stuck in the lab while the DEA poked around. Someone like Gus could probably get a hold of a little ricin pretty easily.

I'm a little bummed that it looks like we won't be seeing Saul again. He was a great character.
10-06-2011, 01:02 AM
bennymac

although I raised the possibility I do find it hard to believe Walt would poison the kid

we do know that Gus has experience in using poison (we don't know where he got the poison from either)

what if Gus had Brock poisoned using something other than the cigarette (and the henchman just swiped the cigarette from the pack while at the lab that day)

could be the booze talking again....this time red wine
10-06-2011, 12:19 PM
TahoeJ

The ricin takes a while to kick in (I believe Walt said 24+ hours) so they wouldn't have found him passed out with it.

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Originally Posted by Ripzalot

it wasn't an accident. jesse knows that he had the cigarette that morning and remembers transferring it to his new pack. if brock had smoked it, they would have found him passed out with the cigarette (remember the ricin was in a little vial), surely that would have been mentioned and/or the vial found.
10-08-2011, 06:10 PM
Jer

Predictions on who's gonna die tomorrow night?

I say Walt Jr.
10-08-2011, 06:19 PM
idiot

I say Jessie's girl's kid, and possibly somebody else. not sure what.
10-08-2011, 07:04 PM
doughboyshredder

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Originally Posted by Jer

Predictions on who's gonna die tomorrow night?

I say Walt Jr.

We can only hope.

Worst character on the entire show.
10-09-2011, 06:03 AM
MMP

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Originally Posted by Jer

Predictions on who's gonna die tomorrow night?

I say Walt Jr.

oh please please please.....i would love that
10-09-2011, 06:59 PM
Lev

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Originally Posted by Jer

Predictions on who's gonna die tomorrow night?

I say Walt Jr.

What's the issue here?

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And just for kicks...

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10-09-2011, 07:14 PM
ICEHOCEY77

who dies? hmmmm. With 16 episodes to go after tonight they are going to have to really reach to keep the plot going, so my first answer would be no one. But push comes to shove, I'll take someone insignificant like the guy that let Gomez snoop around the laundry place. I'm betting it ends as a cliffhanger in some fashion to set up the final season.
10-09-2011, 08:49 PM
ICEHOCEY77

well shit
10-09-2011, 09:10 PM
leroy jenkins

Heres betting walt can't walk away with his safety a whole bunch of cash and a successful carwash. Hes going to start cooking again.
10-09-2011, 10:19 PM
concretejungle

Mike?

Qwerty
10-10-2011, 12:13 AM
funkendrenchman

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Originally Posted by Ripzalot

seems like the scene where he was spinning the gun wanted to give a clue that it was walt. VG doesn't do scenes like that without reason.

DING!.....
10-10-2011, 06:09 AM
arild

Awesome episode. The show could end here, I think.
10-10-2011, 10:42 AM
doughboyshredder

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Originally Posted by arild

Awesome episode. The show could end here, I think.

It could and I kind of think it should.
What an amazing episode. Gus walking out of the room and then the camera panning to show half of his face gone was fucking epic.
The revelation that walt poisoned brock really goes to show how far walt has deteriorated morally.

I agree that this is pretty much the best tv series ever.
10-10-2011, 10:53 AM
This End Up

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Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

The revelation that walt poisoned brock.

Or one of Gus's guys left the poison plant in Walt’s backyard.
10-10-2011, 11:02 AM
doughboyshredder

Wasn't the plant there when walt was sitting there spinning the gun?
10-10-2011, 12:23 PM
Scotsman50

WTF are the next 16 episodes going to be about??? Shit... I can't wait to see how this goes now!
10-10-2011, 12:29 PM
stevesmith7

30 seconds from the end I was ready to call it done as well.
So now we still have Walt vs Jesse (dead girlfriend, poisoned boy, etc.), Walt vs Hank, the IRS, getting the cash flowing again, Walt vs Mike. Plenty to keep us glued for another season.
10-10-2011, 12:29 PM
leroy jenkins

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Originally Posted by Mau

It could, but thank God we've got 16 more episodes next year.

I used to think 'The Wire' was the best TV series ever, but I think it's been topped.

I disagree, BB is entertaining but the wire was far more insightful about a lot of different things and seemed like it had points to make without being preachy (not that BB preaches, but it doesnt really make a point about anything either, its just a story).
10-10-2011, 02:30 PM
oftpiste

Wasn't Saul holding a bunch of Walt's money as well as the money he gave Jesse from the safe as he was bailing out of his office? What happened to that (did it get to Walt?) and why, if Walt was bringing in 17 million a year didn't he have the cash he needed last episode (after Skyler gave $650k away) in the crawl space?

That scene of Gus walking out of Hector's room post explosion - and you're thinking, "holy balls, he fucking survived?" then the pan and Gus's drop to the floor just took my breath away.
10-10-2011, 04:19 PM
Crampedon

No shit. When he reached down to straighten his tie one last time I thought he was wearing kevlar, but then he dropped like a pile of bricks. The actor must be stoked to get that kind of an ending.

Walt poisened the kid? Says who? I missed that.
10-10-2011, 04:33 PM
doughboyshredder

Brock was poisoned by eating a berry from the plant was sitting next to where walt was sitting at his pool while he was spinning the gun.
10-10-2011, 04:33 PM
funkendrenchman

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Originally Posted by Crampedon

No shit. When he reached down to straighten his tie one last time I thought he was wearing kevlar, but then he dropped like a pile of bricks. The actor must be stoked to get that kind of an ending.

Walt poisened the kid? Says who? I missed that.

The kid got poisoned by the same plant Walt has in his backyard. In the previous episode, when Walt was spinning the gun, the gun stopped, pointing at the plant.
10-10-2011, 04:35 PM
Crampedon

Ah yes Jessie said that, did we see Walt pop a few berries in the kids mouth/ceral/milk?

Hi reaction was a bit soft when he said it was not ricin.
10-10-2011, 04:36 PM
funkendrenchman

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Originally Posted by This End Up

Or one of Gus's guys left the poison plant in Walt’s backyard.

It makes way more sense that Walt poisoned Brock than if Gus did.

It's up in the air as to how Walt did it.
10-10-2011, 04:40 PM
Jer

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Originally Posted by doughboyshredder

Gus walking out of the room and then the camera panning to show half of his face gone was fucking epic.
I agree that this is pretty much the best tv series ever.

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Originally Posted by oftpiste

That scene of Gus walking out of Hector's room post explosion - and you're thinking, "holy balls, he fucking survived?" then the pan and Gus's drop to the floor just took my breath away.

Unfortunately that kind of explosion wouldn't result in that kind of trauma. Gus would have to have fairly firm jelly in his veins instead of blood to take one step.

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Originally Posted by Crampedon

No shit. When he reached down to straighten his tie one last time I thought he was wearing kevlar, but then he dropped like a pile of bricks.

Kevlar doesn't protect against explosions, or even high velocity gunshots.

Again - I hate to be a party pooper, but this is one more unbelieveable thing on top of an ever growing pile of unbeliveable things.

I will say that it's cool how Walt completely exploited Gus's one and only weakness. It's clear that Gus was in the whole drug kingpin game way more for revenge than for the money or anything else. For once Gus fucked up.

Next season will be really interesting since, for all intents and purposes, they could end the whole thing right now. But yeah - Walt has some major transgressions against Jesse. Mike holds the key to at least one of them.
10-10-2011, 05:20 PM
funkendrenchman

If I were Tyrus, I probably would have inspected the room just prior to Gus entering... but I guess everyone makes mistakes.
10-10-2011, 05:23 PM
TahoeJ

To summarize this final episode and entire season: Holy. Fucking. Shit.

Good stuff.
10-10-2011, 05:28 PM
funkendrenchman

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Originally Posted by Jer

Kevlar doesn't protect against explosions, or even high velocity gunshots.

Tell that to the bomb squad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Bomb_Suit Not that Gus could have been wearing something that substantial.

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