http://unofficialnetworks.com/2011/0...lpine-meadows/
"According to Unofficial’s “sources” KSL made an offer to JMA in February, 2011 and the deal is currently being finalized. That’s our turn in the rumor mill and we are sticking to it."
http://unofficialnetworks.com/2011/0...lpine-meadows/
"According to Unofficial’s “sources” KSL made an offer to JMA in February, 2011 and the deal is currently being finalized. That’s our turn in the rumor mill and we are sticking to it."
I'm pretty sure you're just having a wet dream.
I heard donner ski ranch is buying squaw.
I heard about an ambitious plan to link Boreal to Homewood and back in a project known as the Sierra Ronda. Obviously because this project is aimed at expat Euros who don't like the piffling little ski areas the natives call home there are certain downsides like the fuck off groomers that will be ploughed through your favourite backcountry stashes, but on the other hand you'll get a fur boutique in Soda Springs and you'll be guaranteed a nice espresso and a bombardino in any hut in the circuit. Lift mazes will also be abolished.
^^^^
Did you say espresso?
For those who won't be waiting, know that the Whitewolf owner apparently can watch that slope and has taken to having skiers poaching there (from KT) apprehended and heavily fined. Says he needs the untracked snow to sell time to photographers.
666, lovely photo in the linked article.
I just bought both my Alpine and Squaw midweek passes today online. They both use the EXACT same order form too now:rolleyes2. Yeah, not exactly a confirmation, but enough to get my conspiratorial juices flowing :biggrin:! Let it happen! Linking these two resorts is so logical it's not funny as long as they don't screw with out a bounds policies at Alpine, but that probably won't happen as it's public land.
Obviously its just rumors....... BUT
What would you rather have KSL spend $50 mil on?
A) Lodging and Pools at the base, chami remodel, gold coast upgrade, etc...
~or~
B) Whitewolf
too bad $50 mil wouldnt buy whitewolf, alpine, and homewood.
EDIT: I hate to say this... but the reason Squaw is loosing to NS and Heavenly is by not pleasing the gaper crowd. This is not due to fancy lodging, food, and other ammenities.. Its do to wide, long, and sunny blue groomers. Sure squaw has Shirley Lake. But it is colder and a hassle to get there. Whitewolf is the perfect addition. You could groom a fat, long, south facing run that would sell tickets.
While I personally don't care about this one bit, the sub-par park at Squaw compared to Northstar isn't helping either...
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Who says Squaw is losing? I say WINNING!!!Quote:
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Heard a well-sourced rumor today that the sale is currently in escrow. Obviously, it could still fall through, even if the rumor is correct. Caveat lector.
Tonight I heard something similar, also from a very reliable source.
Heard the same from two different sources this week...
I just want Squaw to open BC access, and skiing the upper part of Whitewolf on the way to Alpine could be rad, but I can really care less about this deal. They will still have to get people over to Alpine from Whitewolf to connect the two. Will they add a lift from there over to Alpine? I doubt it.
That appears to be in the works regardless, based on statements by Squaw patrol at ISSW 2010.Quote:
Originally Posted by skier666
But would not be made possible by Squaw opening BC access, because White Wolf isn't BC.Quote:
Originally Posted by skier666
You mean, from Alpine to the base of Troy's lift? Why would they bother? I predict a base-to-base gondola, probably with a midstation located to permit skiing to either base (if that's possible).Quote:
Originally Posted by skier666
Squaw is already planning to put in a lot of infrastructure next summer. KSL clearly has capital allocated.
Yeah, I know that upper part of Whitewolf isn't BC. I just don't see the ease of actually connecting to the base of Alpine. Also, I don't think Tahoe needs another base village w/ condos akin Squaw/Northstar but I may be wrong.
Magic carpet tunnel.
^if they did a magic carpet tunnel, it best be a themed ride (like Disney's Matahorn or the old Journey into Inner Space), so as to at least attract those rich Dubai skiers to Tahoe...
I think a 72 virgins theme would do the trick.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0viO-Dm52s...family-guy.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by hutash
Well, the base of Squaw is pretty much due north of the base of Alpine, with KT in between. The land to the right of the area marked Granite Chief Wilderness here is privately owned, I believe by either Troy Caldwell or Alpine Meadows. I don't know jack about the specifics of lift positioning, but it seems like you could run from Alpine base to Squaw base via anything from the Saddle at the west extreme to Olympic Lady or Red Dog Ridge at the east, although you might need to take a turn at the ridge above Five Lakes. Squaw already has the Squaw One lift, essentially redundant with the Funitel; who knows whether they'd appreciate the same duplication with KT?Quote:
Originally Posted by skier666
Couldn't agree more. But why would KSL build another base village at Alpine when they have one at Squaw? If they're already going to connect the two via gondola, they can take advantage of the network effects of concentration, while being able to differentiate the resort destination at Squaw base and the day user/locals lodge at Alpine base.Quote:
Originally Posted by skier666
I could be wrong, obviously, and it's impossible to prove one way or the other, but I suspect that combining with Squaw is the strongest disincentive to a base village at Alpine over the long haul.
*fingers crossed*
I'm with the Dad on this one. Connecting the two is a great argument AGAINST needing any additional "village" type development on the AM side. Just spend some money on lift upgrades (high speed replacement of Hot Wheels that terminates next to Art's Knob anyone?) plus a sweet upgrade to the Chalet to improve food and seating. A rope tow could connect White Wolf, although a tunnel magic carpet sounds cool.
So who is going to break the news and when?
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The Dad - Can you elaborate on what Patrol has said re this (e.g. timeframe, steps, etc)?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad
Yes it would be nice to ski at Alpine without skinning after they close or down the backside of KT/whitewolf legally, etc but as 666 said all I really care about is BC gates/open boundaries. Give me access to Nat Geo and other fun areas from the top of the mountain and I will be ecstatic.
has anyone ever been busted in geo bowl? i'm pretty firmly anti-poach, but even i've been in there a few times. meanwhile nobody's getting whitewolf at least until troy gets involved, and the only other bc off squaw that i'm interested in (the oh shit bowl off the back of tower 1) theres a good chance it will be closed due to avy concerns
in the end, this seems to be very bad news for anyone who skis alpine, and especially to those who buy both passes every year anyway
Need a 4-lane tunnel connecting the base areas for the Range Rovers and Subarus.
I don't think there will any doubt that this is inevitable. IMHO, things will stay the status quo for the upcoming season with just the announcement of the purchase. I would b't be surprised if they kept the passes separate for this season. On the other hand....It could be interesting info for them to see how many Squaw pass holders skied A-Meadows and vise-versa. Does anyone have any idea if the pass scanners at each resort can read the other ones tickets/pass? The Whitewolf part might be a couple of months behind and I don't think any way could the lift be ready for this season.
They said they were in the process of drafting a backcountry access policy. Timeframe was not specific, but was not to be 2010-11.Quote:
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I don't know for sure, but the fact that the passes interfere with each other suggests that they're sufficiently similar. Both use RFID.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flexon Phil
I doubt they could get insurance sign-off for a lift built by an entity with no track record. One word: Yan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flexon Phil
Wait, are you serious?Quote:
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Wouldn't that one word be an entity that had a kinda long and shitty track record?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad
Only if you don't mind the quad in front of you landing in your lap.
Is WW a fixed grip?
Are she and her friends cute?Quote:
Originally Posted by splat
Yeah, you'll be a hit with your 'lil Rascal scooter rack already mounted on the Prius.
hmmm, if this really happens that would be sweet. i hope they would essentially leave alpine as "alpine" (for now) and make squaw passes good @ alpine this season. longer term a gondi connecting the two and/or white wolf access would be sweet.
but i would give it all up for simple bc access from squaw por favor.
If it happens, don't be surprised if the fairly reasonable price for season passes goes away
Actually, they were okay until the detachables and gondolas (gondolae?). But my point was more that the risk of lift injuries and deaths is now quite clear and sufficiently recent that it would be difficult to insure a new company.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Conway
There isn't yet a cable, so it's hard to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by splat
Depends. Chronologically, Alpine appeared to reduce its price in response to Squaw's drastic reduction. But I'm not sure that Squaw implemented the reduction to compete with Alpine.Quote:
Originally Posted by irul&ublo
My money says there'd be some increase in price, but probably to something closer to the pre-reduction prices at Alpine than at Squaw. And probably some savings vs., say, an "unfiltered" Alpine pass plus a Squaw "gold" pass.
you say that as if chairs falling off isnt relatively commonplace at squawQuote:
Originally Posted by splat
I'd expect a small increase in season passes, but not much. You have to figure they'll keep most of the current Squaw and Alpine passholders and probably steal a good number away from Vail (northstar/heavenly). Their likely goal is to become a Whistler / Blackcomb type destination and pull in a lot of money from tourists both in the Bay Area and all over the world. So I'd expect a bigger increase on regular lift tickets... which is where resorts really make their money anyway (along with concessions, etc. of course and leaving real estate out of the discussion).
Any updates on this project? When can I buy my time share?
side note: Damn Casey, nice shot
http://www.mediasrvr.com/himg/620/41...ie-620x413.jpg