Finally, after a 12 months, I have both aerial platforms set up and working how I want them to.
360 degree panning camera mount, 20 minute flight times, air speeds from 15-30mph, flight range of about 1/2 mile. Gyro stabilized camera mount. Launches in 15 feet on skis. Works great at 11,000ft. Functional in 10-15mph winds. 13 pounds flying weight.
http://fritzrips.com/Gallery1/albums/Heli/IMG_7095.jpg
180 degree panning, 7 minute flight times, air speeds of 0-40mph or so, flight range 400 feet visually. Infrared stabilized. Functional in 15mph winds. 11 pound flying weight. Works well at 11,000ft, haven't gone higher yet.
http://fritzrips.com/Gallery1/albums/Heli/IMG_5856.jpg
The camera mount on both will also double as a cable cam mount.:D