Soft Snow Gymkhana - The Heritage Lab FR110

[CascadeLuke]

A Kastle FX 106 ti
Fine one quiver or travel type ski at about 2150 gs per for 184. My R dimes came in at 2400 per in comparison.

[asmvolatile]

What brake width Look Pivots are folks putting on FR/R 110s? Should I go 105 or 115?

[The Iron Horse]

What brake width Look Pivots are folks putting on FR/R 110s? Should I go 105 or 115?

I've used both. Prefer the 105.

[Bandit Man]

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[Core Shot]

Fruit loops.
The best reverse ski ever made

[mc_roon]

UT has been pretty barren this season so far but today I got a little bit of consolidated soft snow when solitude opened some new terrain. Besides an abrupt reminder that the 193s are not trifling and that I let my legs atrophy between MTB season and ski season, video game skiing is the only thing that comes to mind here

[gaijin]

Are those brakes 115 or 105?


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[waxloaf]

What brake width Look Pivots are folks putting on FR/R 110s? Should I go 105 or 115?

105 is the answer without a doubt. I just switched over from 115s to 105s on my fr110s and the fit is perfect


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[meepmoop24]

I know it's a long shot, but if anyone got a R110 186cm for spring delivery that they no longer want, DM me and I'll take it.

[Core Shot]

I know it's a long shot, but if anyone got a R110 186cm for spring delivery that they no longer want, DM me and I'll take it.

I get mine after Christmas.
Expecting cold dead hands before I let it go.
MO knows skis.

Good luck with the search.

[L8APX]

Rode my R110’s today and can confirm it will be a long time before FS: finds itself in front of them. 2nd MO knows skis.

[Shredeagle]

R110s. Making an old man feel young again.

Love how I can engage hovercraft mode and just glide over the funk with the reverse camber or lay them over and carve trenches into airs off moguls.

Such a fun ski. My wife told me to quit zooming in on skis on my phone when we were riding the lift today as I was checking out the AM100s. Haha. Fuck that!


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[Daywalker]

JaPow review, storm reviews, Swallowtails getting helibumps to the top of Blackcomb... Anyone get a sense that these skis might not be for us "regular" skiers? Well, let me help with that. I excitedly got on my 186cm FR110s yesterday.

*Skier: 40-year old body, 60-year old brain. 6' 160lbs of endurance build. Used to ski often and semi-aggressively, now "gracefully" aging into dad life with a preference for punishing folks on the uphill. Tries to keep it together when occasionally making bad decisions around Alpental.
*Conditions: early season Snoqualmie West... Kind of groomed, melt/freeze cycle off-piste, occasional holes in the terrain that may or may not be marked. Pacific Northwest precip, slicker weather, aka call it anything but a light drizzle. The groomed runs were soft, at least?
*Immediate Impression: The skis look good and flex nicely. They have more presence then the Enforcer 104s that they replace. My 4-year old is jealous that my skis have more colors than hers. As I carried two sets of skis, poles, other necessities to get a child through the ski day I did notice the extra heft of the bomber build. Other middle-aged internet people take notice and know that I am someone online (hey phatty!)

*Speed Limit: I can honestly say I did not hit a speed limit. They can keep up with a small child's wedge of death straightline. At the same time, they are comfortable slowly sideslipping, demonstrating a pizza/french fry, and other low-speed efforts.
*Maneuverability: I really appreciated the constant rocker and increased pivotability as I dodged crashes down Little Thunder and navigated the hazardous and unpredictable Little Thunder lift line. Additionally, the tip/tail detune kept me from hanging up edges on the magic carpet.
*Stability: The ski width and stable underfoot flex made picking up and placing the child on the ski lift much easier. The little bit of give in the tips helped me lean down and get her up on the slopes. I can strongly recommend the ski as a base for lifting children.
*Off-piste manners: N/A. I did briefly take them off of the groomed to retrieve a wayward child but was too busy laughing at the speed of the explosion to assess the skis. I think we'll be re-assessing in this category in a few weeks... non-groomed blues here we come!
*Durability: Have YOU skied with a small child? In four runs these have seen more top sheet abuse than most skis get in a year. So far, so good. Additionally, they handled being knocked over by a child in rage with aplomb.

Overall score: 9/10. They lose half a point because the child is jealous of the colors (the child's problems become my problems, as parents understand) and half a point for carrying weight, but I intentionally skip arm day every day.

[Core Shot]

^^
Heh. Congrats on the four year old. Kids skiing is so fun.

And yes. FR is the only reverse that you can ski on hardpack. But I’ve never ridden a sickle. Just a motor sickle.

Surprisingly versatile. Wouldn’t want it on ice. But if it’s soft it’s fun.
Had to learn the centered stance. Other than that it’s a natural ski

[MagnificentUnicorn]

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[Mustonen]

Have had a couple short days on low angle early season groomers on my r110. Initial thoughts are skinnier OG renegade with more sidecut. As such, not the most inspiring hardpack ski, but can see how a bit of pitch and loose snow will unleash that skiing-inside-a-tennis-ball feeling that I love so much with my renegades. I assume that’s what y’all mean by video game skis?

Very damp, quiet skis. Back to back with Sender Squad and similar sort of feel but less seek and destroy than the senders. None of the dangerous sort of hard edged energy that something like the Corvus has. Could definitely see them being a two ski quiver with Senders. Not a hard snow/soft snow quiver, but a wide open/mixed bag quiver.

I’ve put a ton of days on hardpack on full reverse skis, including daily on rens and then daily on Corvus. Nothing wrong with it if you can flip ‘em on edge. I love the hardpack transition on edgeable snow with full reverse.

[2FUNKY]

187 R-Dimes just absolutely rule! Skied them today yet again, they are starting make other skis in the quiver jealous. 5” of new high density snow over a firm base on much of the mountain. Some aspects had as little as 2” others had up to 12”. A few aspects had a breakable crust down about 5-6”. Groomers were pretty darn firm.
These conditions were the perfect proving ground for their shape. I’ll just say that they killed it on all fronts.
Made very tough conditions a breeze, even super fun. I sorta felt bad watching others struggle down while I just mobbed around having a blast.
They do get a little sketch at mach chicken on frozen groomers. Just not confidence inspiring and making you really really focus on what the hell is going on. Don’t really care as this is not what I have these for.
Effortless skiing on 12” of high density snow.



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[m5d5cb]

Rode back to back today on the FR110 and Bonafides. Chunky, day after powder but still soft spots.
It was chunky/soft moguly enough that the Bones were tough to turn. Admittedly I'm also a medicore skier.
I swapped out for the FR110 to ride the exact same area I struggled in and could turn very easily. Vindication these were a good choice.
Found some untouched 6" areas and they surf like a dream there too.

Also received one compliment on the topsheets today. Discussion ensued ... Heritage Labs, what's that?

I've seen good feedback here about the R110 and wonder if I'm missing anything re R vs FR? Or if there is a reason to have both?
The Bonafides do inspire more confidence on fresh groomer and I can ski them harder. Maybe that's talent or where the R could come in.

[Mustonen]

I don’t think the R would replace the bonafide, though I could happily ski the R in most conditions and not really miss the bonafide. I think the piece you describe though is something this shape doesn’t really do, which is bite and lock into carves in an energetic way. You never feel like you’re riding the bull with these. They just disappear, which is its own special magic.

I alluded above to the idea of a terrain quiver vs a snow conditions quiver, given how versatile these are (and other modern skis, to be fair). Hardly a novel concept, but highlighted pretty well with these skis. Waist width is a smaller and smaller piece of that puzzle, and multiple 110-ish skis in the same quiver make more sense next to each other than we might have thought just a few years ago.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Mustonen, will you elaborate on the dangerous sort of hard edge energy that something’s like the Corvus has? I think the R one ten is quiet and does disappear underfoot when skiing. I never thought of the reverse Corvus as hard edged, yes it had more pop than you would expect for a reverse camber ski but I felt the execution was extremely smooth, damp and maneuverability nearly as precise as the R one ten. Skiing with jackattack last week he was on his FR one tens and I couldn’t help thinking that I wish the R one ten had the same tip shape as the FR. It’s longer and gradual splay is nice compared to the rather abrupt splay on the tips of the Rs.


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[Skeeze]

I skied the 186 FR110s about 1 day in total at Olympic Valley in fairly terrible conditions over this past weekend. Overall, I'm extremely impressed, although I'll chime back in later with a true A/B review vs. my current daily driver and ~110mm reference ski, the 184cm Deathwish 112.

The reason I picked up a pair even though I love the Deathwishes was to get a bit more top-end in heavy, chopped pow (where the Deathwishes are a little lightweight). I also don't mind the Deathwishes in true powder, but they prefer a smaller turn shape in pow and I would like a ski that I'd clearly pick over Billy Goats for a <=8 inch pow day.

Conditions: refrozen chunder, ice, a small amount of wind-blown snow, hot pow, and nearly unskiable ACL snow (hot pow that was rained on too much, on top of a rain crust).

Groomers: I didn't ski much groomed snow, but the skis carved a turn totally fine. Reverse camber skis never feel exciting for me on groomers, but they're certainly not bad either (i.e., Billy Goats). Deathwishes get the edge on groomers.

Large, irregular moguls: I need a bit more time in these conditions, but initial impression is that the FR110s are fine. It's a bigger and heavier ski than the 184 Deathwishes, so they feel like a big more work, but they were never getting hung up and they pivot nicely at slow speeds.

Refrozen chunder: Not enjoyable on any ski, but I was impressed at how damp the FR110s are. Hopefully the skis don't see these conditions ever again, but the added weight gives them the edge over the Deathwishes.

Pockets of windbuff over ice: Chute 75 was the best conditions on the mountain -- steep, very firm in spots, but also little bits of windbuff. I could ski the FR110s really hard and slarve them super consistently through variable conditions. I wasn't able to A/B vs. the Deathwishes before the heavy rain arrived and ended my day, but I'm pretty sure I was skiing faster on the FR110s than I would have on the Deathwishes. More mass and more damping gave me confidence to ski faster and you can shut down speed so reliably when needed.

Hot pow: Clearly better than the Deathwishes -- the tails release so easily. I can tell these will be very good pow skis, although I assume I'll still prefer a wider ski when things get deep.

All in all, they're performing exactly how I hoped. I think I'd still choose the Deathwish as the narrower ski in a 2-ski travel quiver (next to a Billy Goat or BO118) where I was expecting to ski a bunch of firm snow, but that may be down to familiarity more than anything. Build quality is superb and the level of damping is as good as it gets for a non-metal ski (up there with Billy Goats and the BlackOps 118s).

[Mustonen]

That’s probably overstating it. But I found the Corvus to be a ski I could lean in to about as hard as I wanted, and there was an edge to the flex point that you could dance with when it got fast/variable. Yea, you could ski them easy, but if you angulate hard and get aggressive they can take you for a ride. It’s not the sort of ski that disappears under you, even if it’s compliant when it needs to be. Largely, a product of stiffer and shorter radius. Note that I think I’m a much smaller human than you, and that’s probably some of it too. (5’9”, 160)

You can lean into the R too. There are probably some edges (I mean that positively) that I haven’t found yet with my very limited time on them, but I don’t think I’m too far off in my assessment so far.

They’re not the same ski, and they aren’t trying to be. I don’t mean to compare them as apples to apples other than to try to articulate my impressions of their on snow character.

[skinipenem]

Getting ready to mount FR110 186 beauties and am admitting suffering from mount point anxiety... just ask Marshal about the extreme anxiety riddled phone tag we've been playing. I've definitely been disappointed by incorrect, for me, mount points in the past.

For those that have played around with mount point on these skis. How sensitive / how much change in performance did you notice with moving the mount point?

I'm going through my quiver now and notating mount points and relevant thoughts. More to come... but first things first is how much difference do different mount points make on the fr110? Obviously, some skis are more sensitive than others to variable mount points.

Thx!

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[Marshal Olson]

Appreciate these thoughts indeed! Thanks for sharing them.

As a point of clarification, all of the Corvus skis I have seen/skied where more like dead flat from shovel to tail opposed to actually reverse... am I missing something on that?

[Mustonen]

No, they’re pretty much just flat. Though as rocker profiles go the R and Corvus are really quite similar.