Bringing Back The Best: Lotii And Other Assorted Love Songs

[banzai]

Damn y'all so curated. All I want is a masking effect HERITAGE LABS stickers for all the awesome topsheets.

[sf]

just call it SE (Slash Edition)

Couldn’t belive none of you took the opportunity.
However, my AI-skills were weak - this is as good as it got




Now; if someone can make Slash play an actual SE and turn it into a sticker template…..

[PeachesNCream]

Idk, I like the abbreviations, sounds more scientific than “slash edition”, it is heritage LABS after all


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[TAFKALVS]

So are the FR120STs or the ZF116s the goat killers?

116 imho

[Marshal Olson]

eSock, if I am thinking of the right email conversation, then given your love of the 194 Devestators, I'd really stick with the 193 FR120

[Full Trucker]

Too confusing

Certain vehicle brands have been using a similar approach for a long time, and people get it. Especially people who nerd out about those car and motorcycle brands that use similar naming conventions. I personally find the current naming approach confusing, and something like what TAFKALVS describes is more descriptive to me.

For example https://www.bmw.com/en/automotive-li...ng-system.html

[Upinsmoke]

To each their own. I have purchased many HL skis with the current descriptions and have had no issues trying to find a ski for a said condition. There is now a history here with these skis being offered for the last 3 years. It would be difficult for ME to relearn all the names

[eSock]

eSock, if I am thinking of the right email conversation, then given your love of the 194 Devestators, I'd really stick with the 193 FR120

Oh yeah, no plans on switching, just curious since I've heard both given that title and that would be quite the ski to unthrone!

[toast2266]

The only issue I have with the naming is that there tend to be a bunch of skis discussed in here that aren't on the website. ZF and SE 116's being recent examples, but there have been a couple other times where there's something discussed in here that I've unsuccessfully went to the website to look for.

But yeah, the naming scheme described upthread is basically what Maxxis does with their tires (tread shape, width, casing, compound, all of which can be mixed and matched in assorted combinations). While it's logical, the #1 complaint about maxxis is that their naming scheme is too complicated.

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[Lord Thomas]

No FL116 comparisons to a Bibby/wildcat? I've got way more time on bibby's than goats but used them with some overlap

[SkiLyft]

I think the challenge as a new company is you are making it up as you go! Maybe HL is more thought out/sorted, but most startups are throwing spaghetti at a wall and seeing what sticks/pays out.

While the naming scheme LVS proposed makes a whole hell of a lot of sense is that what MO wants to build towards? Sure a massive/mature company like Maxxis can do that with 150+ SKUs.

Does a small boutique ski brand want to keep track of that inventory?

Folsom and other brands have gone full custom but hot damn have you seen their prices?

Anywho here for the stoke and to ski the shapes that make most sense for me related to where I ski… *edit* why the fuck do I have a 200cm c132?!? Right, for the heli trips I don’t take.

Carry on.


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[mc_roon]

No FL116 comparisons to a Bibby/wildcat? I've got way more time on bibby's than goats but used them with some overlap

Once there is enough snow in UT to get the FL116s in their natural habitat I'll be able to give that comparison

[SkiJitsu]

Digging the BG replacement talk. Really after hot pow whores for my typical use case. Bit surprised people are making such a direct replacement- considering the tail width and delta of -18 (tip to tail) vs -10 on SE/ZF 116. Anyone care to add some color here?

I only have 1 day on the SE in (relatively dry for PNW) snow but can give some early thoughts.

I had a 2021 BG 118 in 192 and a 2022 BG 118 in 187.

The BG felt like it floated slightly better and was a little better at smashing through crud. The SE was significantly more playful and easier to pivot and turn in deeper snow. (It’s worth noting I have the SE mounted slightly forward (-9.5))

I haven’t had the SE in hot pow, but it did have a bit of a similar feel to the FR110 which is the best hot pow ski I’ve used. The SE was also enjoyable on groomed runs where the BG is miserable.

[Upinsmoke]

R120 beta vs Ultra taper 122
Going to mount the ut with cast. They are light(1848g), flex is nice and supportive but not too stiff. Profile is $$$. Can’t wait to get these out in the wild.

[CascadeLuke]

I only have 1 day on the SE in (relatively dry for PNW) snow but can give some early thoughts.

I had a 2021 BG 118 in 192 and a 2022 BG 118 in 187.

The BG felt like it floated slightly better and was a little better at smashing through crud. The SE was significantly more playful and easier to pivot and turn in deeper snow. (It’s worth noting I have the SE mounted slightly forward (-9.5))

I haven’t had the SE in hot pow, but it did have a bit of a similar feel to the FR110 which is the best hot pow ski I’ve used. The SE was also enjoyable on groomed runs where the BG is miserable.

Appreciate it! I’ve got R110s and considering adding SE116. So I’ll be paying attention to the incoming feedback but early word is promising. Hammering groomed or packed snow back to the lift is my number one gripe on BG.

[L8APX]

Go get em.

[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

Go get em.

Shit

[L8APX]

Go get em.

To be clear, I think the are the ZF116 version put up for spring 25 deliveries. MO can confirm.
He makes it so hard to resist the +1 purchase

[jackattack]

RC is ZF, yes?

[Marshal Olson]

RC is ZF, yes?

see email coming in an hour or so

RC = the production version of the 116.

it will have the ZF's small camber pocket and a blended flex profile at 8.5/10 stiffness for equal parts monstertruck in chop and cadillac suspension in setup.

[2FUNKY]

The RC11[emoji642] is going to be such a good ski! Graphics are sweet!


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[kid-kapow]

Dammit to hell and back again - this is getting rediculous


Good thing the RC116 is not offered in 184. I would probably have had to order that ski having sold my pre-asym BGs today. The RC116 looks amazing - specs and graphics alike.

Marshal - any plans to change the not so awesome graphic for the BC110s for the spring run?

[Marshal Olson]

bombs away

[oetk2]

Bloody hell, looks gooooooood. If I had the funds I'd be in for at least 3 pairs...fack!

[meter-man]

Have the C132 - considering swapping for the UT122... Has anyone been on both and can compare?

RC116 looks awesome - might have to grab some of those too.

And maybe a BC100 for spring touring....

Man, I should setup a Shop Pay direct to MO...