SCARPA 4 Quattro

[flyingskiguy]

Anyone’s XTs developing play in the lock mechanism? Seems like I’ve got some slop in the various pins/axles that wasn’t present initially.

[AlpiNord]

I thought that for a minute yesterday, but after tightening the top buckles and strap, I did not feel it again. I double checked today and do not feel any play. Do you by hand?

[kid-kapow]

while I did not think that I would ever get these, this thread and a local sale made me opt for them over Backland XTDs - and I am glad that I did.

Quattro XTs are simply put the best heavy hitting touring boot that I've tried (I do not consider Lange XT3s to be in the same segment, they are more 50/50 boots that can tour reasonably well). I've tried Technica Tour Pros, Hawx XTDs, Fischer Transalps and Salomon SLab MTN summits - and the Quattros are the best fitting and the ones with the highest performance envelope. They do not have the tendency for the shell to hit my ankle as I walk too - like the Technicas did.

So if you need a low volume boot and can make these work, then I will recommend them any day of the week. They walk really well if perhaps not as frictionless as some lighter boots - but then again they ski the downs a whole lot better too. Their liners are comfy and the integrated booster style strap is nice.

Now I just need to mess them up so I can get some 140s

[mr_pretzel]

I wish they had a taller cuff and a full boot board, really cold boot unfortunately.
Ski great tho, and seriously the most low volume out there.

[AlpiNord]

I wish they had a taller cuff and a full boot board, really cold boot unfortunately.
Ski great tho, and seriously the most low volume out there.

I was considering throwing in a felt shim to reduce the heat loss on those real cold days.

[Huskier]

Just got a pair. Carpet test was fine in the SL, but they didn't have XT in my size and had to order. In the XT I can feel my heartbeat in my feet and my toes fall asleep. No pain though. Do you really need toes?

[MyNameIsAugustWest]

^ Is that just sitting in your living room or out skiing?

I thought the same when I first got a pair but once I started skiing in them, all was right with the world fit-wise.

[PinyonJuniper5]

Damn. I really wanted these boots to work!

Skied them almost all of last season. Broke the walk mode brace on each boot (two seperate occasions). Scarpa was very helpful and replaced both parts, I figured the issue must be a materials or QA thing, so I continued to ski the boot with confidence. Nothing crazy, a mix of touring and resort skiing. By this weekend I probably have 50-70 days on the boot.

Fast forward to this afternoon at Alta, where I was semi-aggressively through some bumps and …. POP!

This happened:

I know that this is a known issue, but I was really hoping that my Quattro issues were over, because other than the issues I’ve had, I REALLY like this boot. Going to contact Scarpa and see if they can help me. Fingers crossed!


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[Huskier]

Anyone’s XTs developing play in the lock mechanism? Seems like I’ve got some slop in the various pins/axles that wasn’t present initially.

Mine have started doing this after one day on the hill and some minor boot work. Looking closely one of the lean mode adjustment screws had backed itself out ever so slightly.

[EdwardsSki]

I noticed vertical cracks in the cuff near the ladders on both boots and quickly got a cuff replacement kit from Scarpa. When I unbolted the cuffs I found this crack in the lower shell.



Scarpa is sending me a full replacement pair. I had ~75 days in the Quattros--all of them backcountry days. I use a 255 GFT liner and the stock liner. I switch them out based on the amount of vert, or conditions/ski I'm using.

I'm trying out a sized down Maestrale RS ((25 shell) since that lower is the same as a 26 shell for the Quattro XT) while I wait for the warranty replacement.

One thing about sizing down is that the shorter cuff height of the Maestrale is very noticeable to me. Without being able to measure the Quattro right now, the Maestrale looks ~1.5 cm shorter than the Quattro. I have used the GFT liner in the Maestrale, which helped a little, but the cuff height difference is still noticeable. The fit between the boots feels the same when going a size down, but contrary to a review on SkimoCO they do not ski the same. (To be fair, I think that reviewer was A/B-ing the same mondo size.) I'd say if you decided to go with a sized down Maestrale, the Quattro XT is still better downhill. The Maestrale gains some efficiency uphill with the shorter cuff height and you get a rockered, rubber outsole with a full length bootboard internally. If I had to go with one boot I'd go with the Quattro XT despite the durability issues. However, I think both boots are useful for my specific use case.

[mr_pretzel]

I noticed vertical cracks in the cuff near the ladders on both boots and quickly got a cuff replacement kit from Scarpa. When I unbolted the cuffs I found this crack in the lower shell.



Scarpa is sending me a full replacement pair. I had ~75 days in the Quattros--all of them backcountry days. I use a 255 GFT liner and the stock liner. I switch them out based on the amount of vert, or conditions/ski I'm using.

I'm trying out a sized down Maestrale RS ((25 shell) since that lower is the same as a 26 shell for the Quattro XT) while I wait for the warranty replacement.

One thing about sizing down is that the shorter cuff height of the Maestrale is very noticeable to me. Without being able to measure the Quattro right now, the Maestrale looks ~1.5 cm shorter than the Quattro. I have used the GFT liner in the Maestrale, which helped a little, but the cuff height difference is still noticeable. The fit between the boots feels the same when going a size down, but contrary to a review on SkimoCO they do not ski the same. (To be fair, I think that reviewer was A/B-ing the same mondo size.) I'd say if you decided to go with a sized down Maestrale, the Quattro XT is still better downhill. The Maestrale gains some efficiency uphill with the shorter cuff height and you get a rockered, rubber outsole with a full length bootboard internally. If I had to go with one boot I'd go with the Quattro XT despite the durability issues. However, I think both boots are useful for my specific use case.

Why does scarpa do this short cuff thing, the quattro is already one one the shortest cuffs on the market, how can the maestrale be even shorter??

Also man the durability of these boots suck, from the sole to the walk mode to the clog to the buckles. Really wish these worked like they should.

[EdwardsSki]

Why does scarpa do this short cuff thing, the quattro is already one one the shortest cuffs on the market, how can the maestrale be even shorter??

Also man the durability of these boots suck, from the sole to the walk mode to the clog to the buckles. Really wish these worked like they should.

Totally agree on the scarpa cuffs, it’s weird. The Quattro XT is everything I want in a touring boot, and it fits me perfectly. But you can’t trust that it will hold up throughout the season.

[XXX-er]

If Scarpa are giving warranty I wouldn't worry

I'm sure they will fix the probelm

thats what happens when you go light

[mr_pretzel]

If Scarpa are giving warranty I wouldn't worry

I'm sure they will fix the probelm

thats what happens when you go light

Theyre not even that light

[Westcoaster]

Theyre not even that light

It's the plastic, a laudable goal but a fragile eco boot is not eco.

[Huskier]

It's the plastic, a laudable goal but a fragile eco boot is not eco.

I'm sure I'll be sad when mine shit the bed but after days 2 and 3 on these things they are the best skiing boot I've been in. Progressive, perfect fit (lucky me), enough beef for anything. Very impressed. And the walking! They don't feel like you're in boots.

But Jesus Hercules Christ, whoever's idea the duckbill sole was should be dropped off the nearest tram. Awkward and slippery as fuck.

[enginerd]

Curious if the pro will fix most of these problems (not sure about that ankle crack tho…)


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[kid-kapow]

Theyre not even that light

for the abuse they are seeing they kinda are though. People are running them as their only boots, which seems a bit excessive to me - they are touring boots, not one boot quivers imho

That being said, they are the best damned touring boot I've had for my needs. I initially found them to be a bit low, but pulling up the tongue fixed that for me - as well as adding the perfect amount of space over the instep. It is a welcome change to not think about the boot much and rather focus on optimizing the binding / ski.

[PaganSkier]

for the abuse they are seeing they kinda are though. People are running them as their only boots, which seems a bit excessive to me - they are touring boots, not one boot quivers imho

That being said, they are the best damned touring boot I've had for my needs. I initially found them to be a bit low, but pulling up the tongue fixed that for me - as well as adding the perfect amount of space over the instep. It is a welcome change to not think about the boot much and rather focus on optimizing the binding / ski.

The boots have a gripwalk sole suggesting they are intended for inbounds pursuits, and Scarpa quantifies the boot as a "Hybrid". I'm going to use mine as a one boot quiver except if rock scrambling is involved during spring missions. I've skied ZGTP in MN & pin bindings for 3 years and they have survived, so the 4-Quattros better live up to the hype.

[mr_pretzel]

The boots have a gripwalk sole suggesting they are intended for inbounds pursuits, and Scarpa quantifies the boot as a "Hybrid". I'm going to use mine as a one boot quiver except if rock scrambling is involved during spring missions. I've skied ZGTP in MN & pin bindings for 3 years and they have survived, so the 4-Quattros better live up to the hype.

They will eventually explode, way less durable than the ZGTP. Allegedly the new pro should be better.

[flyingskiguy]

my XTs developed cracks on the lower buckle tabs of the upper cuff, and they eventually broke off. Scarpa offered a brand new boot replacement when they have stock again in the fall. I've since moved on to other boots, and will be listing the replacement pair of new 2025 XTs here for a steal once they're in hand.

[kid-kapow]

The boots have a gripwalk sole suggesting they are intended for inbounds pursuits, and Scarpa quantifies the boot as a "Hybrid". I'm going to use mine as a one boot quiver except if rock scrambling is involved during spring missions. I've skied ZGTP in MN & pin bindings for 3 years and they have survived, so the 4-Quattros better live up to the hype.

sure regarding GW and MNC/alpine binding compatibility, and the marketing copy labeling it as hybrid boot might indicate it as well - but one does not need to be a rocket scientist to come to the conclusion that a sub 1500 gram boot is not going to stand up to serious resort abuse over time ZGTP experience notwithstanding. Noodle around, sure, haul and huck, doubtful.

Besides - if they do fail you will get a replacement that potentially is new and updated. The warrenty period should be longer too based on a brand conservation scheme by Scarpa if nothing else, with all the know issues of the current gen.

I guess I should check mine for cracks too - they've seen quite a bit of use. I still think they are the best boot in this segment that I've tried. The fit my foot and stride a lot better than ZGTPs

my XTs developed cracks on the lower buckle tabs of the upper cuff, and they eventually broke off. Scarpa offered a brand new boot replacement when they have stock again in the fall. I've since moved on to other boots, and will be listing the replacement pair of new 2025 XTs here for a steal once they're in hand.

congrats on getting updated boots under warrenty.

[enginerd]

Scarpa offered a brand new boot replacement when they have stock again in the fall.

Could you have picked the pro instead or was their warranty only for the same model?


“Who wants a life imprisoned in safety?” - Amelia Earhart

[kamtron]

I picked up some of the new Maestrale RS on a spring sale, and they walk and ski great! Fit is not nearly as voluminous as a previous gen Maestrale I once tried on.

[~mikey b]

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