@Montucky, we're kind talking past each other. Toyota proved it's possible to reliably implement start/stop. Other companies' poor implementation is on them.
The shape of the power curve is only limited by the finesse in your right foot. Make it whatever shape your want. From an enthusiasts standpoint, having more performance on tap and a much greater ability to control how it's delivered are good things.
I haven't even driven the sportier EVs but 24 hours with the BMW iX almost made me a believer.
Sent from my SM-S918U1 using Tapatalk
Looks like the E-Ray's electric motor powers the front axle only and is, in fact, decoupled from the gas engine that powers the rear axle. Chevrolet doesn't refer to the E-Ray as a mild hybrid anywhere on their site. But, maybe. Maybe the definitions of hybrids are evolving. Maybe there is widespread confusion.
I'd take an EV over gas ever time for around town and commuting. They're perfect for that use case.
They're pretty worthless IMO. It likes to jerk the wheel for no good reason, but when I've tested out the lane keep assist on purpose, it only wants to work like 1/2 the time and doesn't do much when it does. Even the parking sensors don't do much til it's too late. Haha. Prolly cuz Chrysler, but I'm spoiled by GOOD parking sensors in my Volvos and now Mercedes. The longer I live with this Chrysler, the more I'm missing my Mercedes. I want it back. Stupid body shop delays.![]()
I admittedly don't live somewhere with a lot of stopping or traffic, but there was a bit more where I lived when I bought the F-150 (and I drove more miles at a time there, so the battery actually got recharged). It took me about three days for it to be pretty seamless, the key thing being that ASS only kicks in with significant pressure on the brake. In most situations, you can let off a little and the truck will fire back up well before you've released to the point of moving.
The sales guy made the claim that it was nearly impossible to beat the ASS with a single foot (ie the engine would be running by the time your foot hit the throttle), but I wasn't quite convinced on that. Again, I didn't often need to pull into a small gap in traffic, so if that's part of your daily driving, it may be more annoying.
Brandine: Now Cletus, if I catch you with pig lipstick on your collar one more time you ain't gonna be allowed to sleep in the barn no more!
Cletus: Duly noted.
Yeah but i get the point about it being boring. It requires significantly less “driving”- you don’t need to know your powerband, you don’t have to shift to stay in the powerband, you don’t get the anticipation of waiting for a turbo to spool. Sure the power is always there, but where’s the fun in that?
There’s definitely something enjoyable about driving a car that get increasingly hectic as you approach redline. Or even just makes you work to stay in the power band.
The new ‘N’ performance version of the Ioniq 5 has virtual gears, which are completely unnecessary, and hurt from a pure performance standpoint (in that they intentionally reduce torque output), but from the accounts I’ve read they’ve actually done a good job of making it more entertaining to drive quickly.
But just normally driving around town I could imagine the constant power being fine, or even nice.
Exactly. I have a m-cycle with a 14,000-ish redline. The power curve looks like Mt. St. Helens (the side where the mountain blew off.) It's quite engaging when it hits. Upshifting and downshifting to keep it on the boil requires me to be fully engaged. After a 2 -3hr ride I haven't thought about anything else but riding the thing. It's a head clearing experience. I get that this sort of thing isn't everyone's cup of tea.
Now if I'm stuck in bumper to bumper traffic, thank god I have a helmet on so people can't hear me dropping f-bombs. The electric would be perfect then.
"timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang
People gettin crazy around the holidaze and need to dial it back a bit. Passed this on my way home. I try to recreate in my mind how these things happen and just couldn't figure this one out.
![]()
And over on the Alfa forum, some poor chap takes his Alfa in for an oil change and the dealership tech does this on a test drive...
Body count: 1 Giulia QV, 1 911, 1 Merc , and a Hellcat.
![]()
"timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang
That's quite a body count.
My neighbors who are kind of weird about cars, (had a neglected cayenne, now have a Tesla model s, and an old ranger 2wd pickup) asked me the other day about a car for when their daughters are around, should we get this old bmw x3? Been in an accident, was not repaired for years, daughter sometimes changes the oil at jiffy lube, but it was properly maintained, haha, I said, NO. DO NOT BUY. But here are some other cars you should look at, and on a whim, I sent them a Suzuki sx4 with manual transmission.
They bought the Suzuki. Now I want one. Theirs has AT tires on it, 5 speed manual trans, locking center diff button, heated seats, and central to the theme of the last few pages, manual radio and HVAC controls.
![]()
sigless.
I drove taycan. It was super fast. I think they are great looking cars, and I like the different body styles they have, but... I thought it felt like an enormous car on the road, yet somehow felt cramped on the inside.
sigless.
Getting back to ASS (auto stop-start), my new Bronco with the 7MT has it. It surprised me on my first day at the first stoplight. I just assumed that they could not do it with a manual trans. I could disable it by pushing a button, but it works seamlessly and it does not bother me. I’m used to it now.
Sent from my island using TGR Forums
"Zee damn fat skis are ruining zee piste !" -Oscar Schevlin
"Hike up your skirt and grow a dick you fucking crybaby" -what Bunion said to Harry at the top of The Headwaters
Bookmarks