50 years to the day

[J. Barron DeJong]

Still wildly varying estimates of casualties from the hospital explosion:



https://x.com/shashj/status/17150496...sR_NcRK2VkCfkg

[ötzi]

Australia should sell a chunk of Western Australia on the coast north of Perth twice the size of Israel to the Israelis and they should just let the Palestinians have Israel. Win-win-win.

[LongShortLong]

The hospital story is a nice distraction from daily reality. The daily reality that includes Israel dropping hundreds of very large bombs on targets. A polite way of saying destroying people and people's livelihoods.

[ex-powderbroker]

yup. but….





lives are not replaceable. stuff is.

[J. Barron DeJong]

The hospital story is a nice distraction from daily reality. The daily reality that includes Israel dropping hundreds of very large bombs on targets. A polite way of saying destroying people and people's livelihoods.

Most countries factor in both civilian casualties as well as destruction of civilian structures/infrastructure when weighing whether a strike is justifiable.

Apparently Israel is one of two countries that specifically does not do that (the other may have been the Netherlands?).

Morals of that choice can be debated when the property being destroyed is in one of the poorest places on earth.

[frorider]

The hospital story is a nice distraction from daily reality. The daily reality that includes Israel dropping hundreds of very large bombs on targets. A polite way of saying destroying people and people's livelihoods.

Australia should sell a chunk of Western Australia on the coast north of Perth twice the size of Israel to the Israelis and they should just let the Palestinians have Israel. Win-win-win.

The what now?

[MontuckyFried]

Class act this guy. Stoked that Egypt isn't letting his people in, and telling the Gazans to stay put.

[MultiVerse]

The video above was posted earlier in this thread when the Israeli siege also wasn't letting anyone in or out. That's why American diplomacy focused first not on Hamas or hostages, but the humanitarian crisis in Gaza:

‘Today, at our request, the United States and Israel have agreed to develop a plan that will enable humanitarian aid from donor nations and multilateral organizations to reach civilians in Gaza, including the possibility of creating areas to help keep civilians out of harm’s way.’

The American government put together the aid initiative, not Israel, and not Egypt & Jordan who are suspicious Israel wants to remove Palestinians from Gaza and take the land for itself. The American government wants to nudge Israel towards a coherent strategy that isn't just trying to solve one problem only to make another one worse.

[ötzi]

Yeah the idea is to win, not necessarily to kill everyone. The Israelis are pretty smart, maybe they'll come up with something. Now that's it's completely obvious who the enemy is and what they'll do, it shouldn't be impossible to have a good idea.

[Cono Este]

So what’s your plan to free the hostages exactly?

That’s a, I don’t have a better plan. answer?

[MagnificentUnicorn]

My god you’re dumb

It’s like watching a train wreck, it’s terrible but I can’t look away


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[MagnificentUnicorn]

So what’s your plan to free the hostages exactly?

I think he wants some operators to get in there and kick ass, what could possibly go wrong?


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[PNWbrit]

The what now?

Over 60,000 years. That's what you call indigenous.

And recently fucked over in Australian referendum.

[bennymac]

Getting hostages out of tunnels located below the 3rd most densely populated “country” in the world seems like an incredible obstacle for even the best tier 1 forces. Not saying it can’t be done. Not saying it shouldn’t be tried. But this seems a million times more difficult/dangerous than knocking down doors in Iraq/Afghanistan (I have zero experience to back up this opinion)

[ex-powderbroker]

Now that's it's completely obvious who the enemy is and what they'll do, it shouldn't be impossible to have a good idea.

“middle eastern guy, 5’9”, medium build, 18-35 years old”

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Getting hostages out of tunnels located below the 3rd most densely populated “country” in the world seems like an incredible obstacle for even the best tier 1 forces. Not saying it can’t be done. Not saying it shouldn’t be tried. But this seems a million times more difficult/dangerous than knocking down doors in Iraq/Afghanistan (I have zero experience to back up this opinion)

It would be incredibly stupid to try. It’d be Mogadishu all over again, except way more people would die.


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[riser4]

They should flood those tunnels with the ocean. Ya, there's a lotta reasons why that would be a really bad idea. Honestly, my biggest objection would be that it would ruin the ground water for human consumption, because it's definitely going to end up in some aquifers.

[AK47bp]

Gas the tunnels with Nitrous. While the hamassholes brains are wa-wa-ing the IDF can kick ass.

[TBS]

It would be incredibly stupid to try. It’d be Mogadishu all over again, except way more people would die.

Saw Jake Tapper interview David Petraeus, who opined that rooting Hamas out of Gaza will be “orders of magnitude harder than Fallujah”.

[summit]

Iranian controlled and supplied Houthi forces launched a barrage of missiles and drones from Yemen toward Israel.

USS CARNEY (DDG-64) engaged and destroyed the incoming strike.

Note the destroyer was detached from CSG-12 (FORD) and had transited the Suez and was operating in the Northern Red Sea.

That was a clear message to Iran: FAFO

[bennymac]

Gas the tunnels with Nitrous. While the hamassholes brains are wa-wa-ing the IDF can kick ass.

Russia tried that with the Chechens. Worked on the terrorists but they forgot to have a plan for the hostages who of course also got gassed.

[summit]

[Toadman]

They can't afford to deal with them. Sad situation all the way around. All because some minority group of radical violent extremists want death and destruction.

[ex-powderbroker]

i am really struggling with this massacre.

i wanted two states my whole life. i’ve been arguing it in here.

but how do you know that it’s just a minority and the rest want to live in peace?

it seems impossible to know.

there’s certainly a number of people that would never accept a jewish state. they’d live under an army (egypt), fake king (jordan), despot (assad), iranian cleric (leb), occupying foreign power (turks, british) but a side by side with a jewish state?

eta: between the missiles last night and iran on tv saying hezbollah and the houthis ready to go i’m getting concerned.

[AK47bp]

Russia tried that with the Chechens. Worked on the terrorists but they forgot to have a plan for the hostages who of course also got gassed.

Well maybe not using a fentanyl gas this time, just some Nitrous gas.

There’s gotta be a dentist here with the hookup.