New Season, New Tires, New Thread

[Canada1]

I’m fat. 204 on a 6’ frame. So durability is a factor. My ability to get good pricing pushes me toward specialized or Maxxis. I’ve historically gone Maxxis in recent years, because anything else I’ve destroyed. These are going on a hardtail I’m logging long miles on and trying to drive watts.

[toast2266]

I’m fat. 204 on a 6’ frame. So durability is a factor. My ability to get good pricing pushes me toward specialized or Maxxis. I’ve historically gone Maxxis in recent years, because anything else I’ve destroyed. These are going on a hardtail I’m logging long miles on and trying to drive watts.

Maxxis just released a thing saying they updated their fast rolling rubber compound MaxxSpeed(tm) that comes in most of their XC-ish tires. The Maxxis marketing department gestured wildly in the direction of some guy in the engineering department and then spouted off a made up number about how much less rolling resistance it has. So there's that.

They also released an XC oriented mud tire that looks like it could be ok-ish in loamier dirt.

[ticketchecker]

Vittoria Mezcal has been my go to xc tire the last few years. Like it more than ikon, rekon, ardent race, racing ralph, and it's cheaper. Also tried the vittoria syerra last fall and liked it- pretty fast still but a little better grip and durability.


I'm trying pirelli XCRCs on my hardtail, seems ok so far. Very light and low profile, kind of similar design to an aspen. 700g for a 2.4.

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Have you tried the Barzo too?


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[XtrPickels]

Maxxis just released a thing saying they updated their fast rolling rubber compound MaxxSpeed(tm) that comes in most of their XC-ish tires. The Maxxis marketing department gestured wildly in the direction of some guy in the engineering department and then spouted off a made up number about how much less rolling resistance it has. So there's that.

They also released an XC oriented mud tire that looks like it could be ok-ish in loamier dirt.

I'm interested to see how these test. Their current tires are slow as shit, but I use them on "real trails" because I think the traction makes up for the rolling resistance. It'd be nice if they could keep the traction and get rolling resistance on par with Conti or Schwalbe - But I'm not holding my breath.

The Schwalbe XC tires could be really nice if their tread patterns weren't dumb.

[jamal]

Have you tried the Barzo too?


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Yes I went through a couple sets of mezcal rear, barzo front but I think when it's on the edge knobs the mezcal has as much or more cornering grip. Barzo is a little better in looser stuff or mud or when more upright.

[alpinevibes]

I'm hunting for new tires on my YT Izzo and the litany of tire versions are head spinning. The Izzo came stock with 29x2.35 Forekaster v1 at 735g. Those were ok here in the Rockies and Moab, but didn't last long and the grip was uninspiring. Looking for something that bumps up grip and durability, but hopefully stays under 900g, at 2.3-2.4" and low-ish rolling resistance.

Ground Control T5 or T7 are appealing at $49 right now, but Vittoria Syerra, Conti Trail King and maybe the Nobby Nic are also intriguing. Suggestions for my predominantly dry, loose-over-hard riding here? Thanks guys

[geomorph]

Maxxis Dissector/Rekon combo in Maxterra/Exo fits the bill on rolling resistance and gets close on weight. Rekon in the rear wore quick but never had a puncture. I'm on a Specialized Eliminator/Purgatory combo in T9/T7 with grid casing now. Liking it so far, a bit more grip than the Maxxis setup but only a month or so on those so can't really comment on durability. Also I'm on the older version of the Purgatory, looks like they updated it recently.

[AlpiNord]

Do you have a Durability vs. Rolling vs. Grip preference?

I have 3 sets based on what I'm trying to achieve

1. All-out Speed on non-technical trail // High Speed, Low Grip and Durability // Continental Race King OR Schwalbe Racing Raph + Thunder Burt
2. Fast on technical trail // Mix of Speed, Grip, Durability // Maxxis Rekon + Rekon Race
3. "Downcountry" // Fun, grippy, and Durable, but not necessarily xc fast // : Specialized Eliminator + Purgatory

On the Continental front, all of their tires have been overhauled. Check out Blister Review comparing the Kryptotal (which I ordered) to Maxxis Minion & Assegai, iirc. I hope going from a 2.6 to 2.4 won’t be a bad move. I can switch to a 2.6 on the rear but the Kryptotal fronts only come in 2.4.

https://blisterreview.com/gear-revie...ryptotal-tires




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[Eluder]

I'm hunting for new tires on my YT Izzo and the litany of tire versions are head spinning. The Izzo came stock with 29x2.35 Forekaster v1 at 735g. Those were ok here in the Rockies and Moab, but didn't last long and the grip was uninspiring. Looking for something that bumps up grip and durability, but hopefully stays under 900g, at 2.3-2.4" and low-ish rolling resistance.

Ground Control T5 or T7 are appealing at $49 right now, but Vittoria Syerra, Conti Trail King and maybe the Nobby Nic are also intriguing. Suggestions for my predominantly dry, loose-over-hard riding here? Thanks guys

The Nobby Nic is awesome in this spot. I find the grip to be great for how well they roll. I run them on the hardtail, which fills this slot for me currently.

[smmokan]

The Nobby Nic is awesome in this spot. I find the grip to be great for how well they roll. I run them on the hardtail, which fills this slot for me currently.

Yep, I run a Hans Dampf front and NN rear on my trail bike and it’s great…. Putting a grippy NN on the front would roll faster and save a bit of weight.

[simple]

About to order Vittoria Syerra tires for my wife's XC/AM bike. Seems like a dry condition XC tread with more volume. Anyone try them yet?

[jamal]

I was on Syerras last fall and liked them, but I also mainly ride XC tires and was coming from vittoria mezcals. There's not a huge difference between the two actually. Syerra has a little bigger edge knobs, a little heavier casing, a little more volume. This is on a 120/120mm kona hei hei cr.



I also thought the little center knobs wore down quickly, but it turns out I did put like 1000mi on them and also ride across town a lot to get to trailheads and stuff. Probably will buy another set this summer.

[grskier]

That looks like a great tweener tire.

[Roxtar]

I'm hunting for new tires on my YT Izzo and the litany of tire versions are head spinning. The Izzo came stock with 29x2.35 Forekaster v1 at 735g. Those were ok here in the Rockies and Moab, but didn't last long and the grip was uninspiring. Looking for something that bumps up grip and durability, but hopefully stays under 900g, at 2.3-2.4" and low-ish rolling resistance.

Ground Control T5 or T7 are appealing at $49 right now, but Vittoria Syerra, Conti Trail King and maybe the Nobby Nic are also intriguing. Suggestions for my predominantly dry, loose-over-hard riding here? Thanks guys

Kenda Helkat Pro or my new favorite, Tioga Edge 22 on front. Nobby Nic in the rear.

[skaredshtles]

Kenda

[simple]

Thanks Jamal!

Yeah prices on the Syerra are slightly better than a few of the other similar offerings.

What people are paying for XC maxxis and schwalbe tires is highway robbery. Like $150 for two tires?!?!

[MarsB]

Maxxis Dissector/Rekon combo

Running this setup (came stock, both EXO) currently in 2.5 on my Genius for northern Utah trails. Once the lifts start spinning I will probably switch to some sort of DHF/DHR/Assegai combo, but with this season's snowpack that could be late-September.

[alpinevibes]

Thanks Jamal!

Yeah prices on the Syerra are slightly better than a few of the other similar offerings.

What people are paying for XC maxxis and schwalbe tires is highway robbery. Like $150 for two tires?!?!

Yeah, I've been on Maxxis for the last decade and am intrigued by Schwalbe - but the price and word soup of options is my avoidance for both. But it seems like for a grippier front the Dissector or Hans Dampf are hard to pass over.

Feeling like I might just grab a Ground Control T5 or T7 as a nice $50 rear option that should be a slight step up from the Forekaster. XR4 gets good feedback too, but for $50, the Ground Control's seem close enough and maybe more durable.

Maybe I just split the cost difference and go HD front, GCt5 rear and call it a day...

[carlh]

Having ridden both the dissector and Hans damf on the front I’m much happier on the dissector even given access to cheap schwalbes. The hans is very round and doesn’t have as pronounced side knobs so it feels noticeably less grippy in corners. Rolling resistance and braking are closer. My hard tail is a dissector front nobby nic rear and that feels like a nice balance between speed and grip for pedally trail riding at not xc pace. That said I see a lot more mud and than loose.

[smmokan]

Having ridden both the dissector and Hans damf on the front I’m much happier on the dissector even given access to cheap schwalbes. The hans is very round and doesn’t have as pronounced side knobs so it feels noticeably less grippy in corners. Rolling resistance and braking are closer. My hard tail is a dissector front nobby nic rear and that feels like a nice balance between speed and grip for pedally trail riding at not xc pace. That said I see a lot more mud and than loose.

It's funny, I think the same thing about the HD... it's a very round profile and mentally, it's not what I'm used to seeing up front (I have a MM on my enduro bike). But I've ridden that tire HARD in some very rowdy and sketchy conditions, and it's performed flawlessly.

[simple]

The Hans is the best Moab tire

[carlh]

I think it might be a rim width issue too. The hd was super sketchy on an old 20mm rim but ok on a 28mm one. Probably better on a 30mm. My experience is in NE and PNW so not applicable everywhere. I too am super happy with magic mary on the big bike for the conditions I ride it.

It's funny, I think the same thing about the HD... it's a very round profile and mentally, it's not what I'm used to seeing up front (I have a MM on my enduro bike). But I've ridden that tire HARD in some very rowdy and sketchy conditions, and it's performed flawlessly.

[stuckathuntermtn]

Anyone get some time on the Forekaster yet? 2.4 dual looks like a fast rear tire. Thinking of pairing it with a 2.6 DHF on the front when I need new tires. 29mm internal. I'm maxed at 2.4 for the rear :/
Also interested in the Mazza 2.6/Martello 2
35 mix.
Might just try whichever is cheaper when it's time for tires. Or whichever set measures bigger.
This is for a Guerilla Gravity Trail Pistola so not winning any uphill races.
I understand that neither is a full 2.6. My e13's are quite generous 2.4 and 2.35. I'd get the same tires again, but instead of just expanding to an AT in a 2.6 which would sit less squared off on my wheel, they revamped their entire lineup. Also, could use a touch more grip in the rear.

[jdadour]

Building up a 120mm steel hardtail for trail riding. Forgive my use of the term "downcountry" but what is the consensus DHF/DHRII downcountry tire combo? IE faster rolling, but not a full on XC tire.

[SchralphMacchio]

Building up a 120mm steel hardtail for trail riding. Forgive my use of the term "downcountry" but what is the consensus DHF/DHRII downcountry tire combo? IE faster rolling, but not a full on XC tire.

Fun but not the fastest or lightest. What is your soil like?
Dissector front Rekon rear is much lighter and faster but I wouldn’t use that in wet, loose, or deep soils. Cue mom joke.