To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[dunfree]

^^^Not Les Schwab. They are the most expensive tire dealer in the area

what value do you assign to the meat

[brutah]

And why we should move on already
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When you pull up the source.......

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jfc, citing zerohedge

[J. Barron DeJong]

When you pull up the source.......

From a quick look, it seems to be a legitimate site, but the articles haven’t been peer reviewed yet, so you’d have to be cautious about reading too much into them. (Although peer review doesn’t completely rectify that issue.)

The numbers NakedShorts posted seem in the same general range as other reports, aren’t they?

Not sure how 5% of infections in 70+ seniors ending in death means this is over though…

Also not sure what the point about VP getting boosted is. She got infected, and since she’s boosted she has a much greater chance of fighting off the infection instead of ending up in hospital or dead.

[skaredshtles]

From a quick look, it seems to be a legitimate site, but the articles haven’t been peer reviewed yet, so you’d have to be cautious about reading too much into them. (Although peer review doesn’t completely rectify that issue.)

The numbers NakedShorts posted seem in the same general range as other reports, aren’t they?

Not sure how 5% of infections in 70+ seniors ending in death means this is over though…

Also not sure what the point about VP getting boosted is. She got infected, and since she’s boosted she has a much greater chance of fighting off the infection instead of ending up in hospital or dead.

You need to just ignore naked shorts. He's a straight up moranic kook.

[riser4]

^^^Not Les Schwab. They are the most expensive tire dealer in the area

Exactly. Which is why I'd expect them to branch out.

[TBS]

what value do you assign to the meat

Zero - it’s a February only deal, and doesn’t begin to offset the added cost.

BTW, best butcher shop in Central OR is Sisters Meat and Smokehouse
https://www.sistersmeat.com/

Exactly. Which is why I'd expect them to branch out.

Yeah, I doubt even their new private equity overlords are gonna branch into health care. Prineville OR, hometown to Les Schwab Tires, is an antivaxer patriot hotbed

[dunfree]

Zero - it’s a February only deal, and doesn’t begin to offset the added cost.

BTW, best butcher shop in Central OR is Sisters Meat and Smokehouse
https://www.sistersmeat.com/



Yeah, I doubt even their new private equity overlords are gonna branch into health care. Prineville OR, hometown to Les Schwab Tires, is an antivaxer patriot hotbed

prineville is also Facebook now.

[axebiker]

Moderna Booster #4 and Shingrix #2 today. I can't believe that I was dumb enough to do both of these on the same day again...

[NakedShorts]

That's Bozos paper not Fox

[J. Barron DeJong]

That's Bozos paper not Fox

From the article:

’As a group, the unvaccinated remain far more vulnerable to the worst consequences of infection — and are far more likely to die — than people who are vaccinated, and they are especially more at risk than people who have received a booster shot.’

What’s your point?

[Buzzworthy]

He has none.

[skaredshtles]

He has none.

This. He's a complete, fucking moran. People should quit quoting him.

[RoooR]

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8000 time more deadly for the elderly vs kids is what I've heard quoted a bunch and that math roughly matches the chart. COVID has basically the largest gap in old vs young of any virus we've discovered.

[The SnowShow]

I got my Pfizer booster in late Nov. I’m going to fly in a month and attend an event with a lot of kids/parents (hundreds). It’s time to boost up again, right?

[JaytaeMoney]

That's Bozos paper not Fox

If you had posted a link to the article instead of a picture of the headline, people could read the article which states that 75% of the vaccinated people who died did not have a booster. That's why you're supposed to get a booster.

[skaredshtles]

I got my Pfizer booster in late Nov. I’m going to fly in a month and attend an event with a lot of kids/parents (hundreds). It’s time to boost up again, right?

I personally would. In fact, I recently did.

[RShea]

So I've posted earlier in this mostly helpful thread (as long as you know whom to ignore.) Mar 2021 when J&J was first offered and it was to be a single shot I got it. Then they really did not publicize the fact that a second shot would be recommended until much later so did not do anything until fall. I got a Moderna booster in Dec 2021 and have so far been pretty careful (wearing a mask most crowded places unless outdoors on a few occasions, washing hands pretty regularly and all, but probably want to plan for the next round that I think will be coming. So some are at 3 or 4 with booster, and I'm at 2 with the last booster basically 5 months ago. So another Moderna? Or any collective advice on nextround of booster...

[J. Barron DeJong]

So I've posted earlier in this mostly helpful thread (as long as you know whom to ignore.) Mar 2021 when J&J was first offered and it was to be a single shot I got it. Then they really did not publicize the fact that a second shot would be recommended until much later so did not do anything until fall. I got a Moderna booster in Dec 2021 and have so far been pretty careful (wearing a mask most crowded places unless outdoors on a few occasions, washing hands pretty regularly and all, but probably want to plan for the next round that I think will be coming. So some are at 3 or 4 with booster, and I'm at 2 with the last booster basically 5 months ago. So another Moderna? Or any collective advice on nextround of booster...

Article on recent booster recs:

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid...-covid-booster

Third shot should be another mRNA. Don’t make a recommendation of Pfizer vs. Moderna. From what I’ve seen previously, Pfizer may have a very marginal benefit.

Not sure on current guidance for timing for different ages.

[The SnowShow]

Article on recent booster recs:

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid...-covid-booster

Third shot should be another mRNA. Don’t make a recommendation of Pfizer vs. Moderna. From what I’ve seen previously, Pfizer may have a very marginal benefit.

Not sure on current guidance for timing for different ages.

What have you read about Pfizer having a very marginal benefit?

[J. Barron DeJong]

What have you read about Pfizer having a very marginal benefit?

This:
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/cov...cy-11635955315

Not specific to J&J as the first shot. It appears that mixing shots has benefits, but the Moderna booster is stronger. If you’d had Pfizer originally then it looks like the next shot being Moderna has clear benefits. Not nearly as big a benefit with following Moderna with Pfizer vs just sticking with the same.

For what it’s worth, I was vaccinated and boosted with Moderna, will probably go for Pfizer next, but IANAD.

[NakedShorts]

"The vaccinated made up 42% of fatalities in January and February during the highly contagious omicron variant's surge, compared with 23% of the dead in September, the peak of the delta wave"

Point was your silver bullet ain't so shinny and the media is even telling you. Best of luck with your Boosters.

[summit]

"The vaccinated made up 42% of fatalities in January and February during the highly contagious omicron variant's surge, compared with 23% of the dead in September, the peak of the delta wave"

2/3 of the population is vaccinated, and much higher percentages for the high risk folks, who are still at higher risk after vaccination compared to the rest of the vaccinated, just relatively less risk than without vaccination. So the majority (vaccinated and higher risk) account for the minority of deaths.

Most of the remaining unvaccinated have had COVID, which offers protection, although they earned it at a higher risk and in a less pleasant way (and many died and so cannot get sick again). So you have 1/3 of the population (unvaccinated), who have lower risk factors and some protection, are still accounting for most of the COVID deaths.

All of this is expected. So what was your point again?

Why do I even open this thread. I'm going skiing.

[oldnew_guy]

I'm impressed this person thinks people should take them seriously about various economic and market issues in other threads, yet can't parse that statistic.

[J. Barron DeJong]

I'm impressed this person thinks people should take them seriously about various economic and market issues in other threads, yet can't parse that statistic.

Seriously. Maybe a picture will help:



https://twitter.com/jkwan_md/status/...3C1y8v-MD68aEw