To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[skiJ]

read it A$$pen -
it does not say what you claim it says ; in f-a-c-t, " ... needs to be confirmed " does NOT mean it is confirmed.
( seventh grade English ) ;

it is not my opinion -
I have known a little genetics.
I believe there are more than 76genomes in many viruses
( I used to know a little virology... )

I read this in November -
This is preliminary work :
" ... needs to be confirmed. "

bye bye, Asspen. skiJ

[oldnew_guy]

I googled the news article, pretty useless https://www.kgw.com/article/news/hea...9-3ff3821f3083

Meanwhile, some good news for people with breakthrough cases: https://news.ohsu.edu/2021/12/16/bre...study-suggests

Yeah, will be interesting to see the study. Squares with what FNIH was saying which is that 10% - 30% of people who get CoVID have long term symptoms.

[bennymac]

A spiking heart rate could be a symptom of long COVID, experts say

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...-say-1.5800252


WRG I believe you said your heart rate remained normal and regular during these episodes - this is more just for general info (is a news article not a medical study)

[The AD]

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) — A visibly annoyed Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis admonished a group of students for wearing face masks at an indoor news conference Wednesday, saying it was time to stop what he called “this COVID theater.”

DeSantis, a fierce opponent of virus mask and vaccine mandates, approached the students and asked them to remove their masks as they awaited the Republican governor at the news conference at the University of South Florida in Tampa.

“You do not have to wear those masks. I mean, please take them off. Honestly, it’s not doing anything. We’ve got to stop with this COVID theater. So if you wanna wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous,” he said, letting out an audible sigh and shaking his head.

People actually being annoyed by others wearing masks has still got to be one of the most bizarre things about this pandemic.

[Cisco Kid]

SkiJ. Just follow my lead. One sentence max when replying to asspen. i.e. Asspen, you ignorant slut.

[old goat]

Heard on NPR today--the Pfizer vaccine is very poor at preventing infection--but not hospitalization--a few months after vaccination in 5-11 year olds. 12 and older are much better protected. Probably because 11 and younger is where the dose drops. Considering that and considering the problem now with getting approval for 4 and under it seems like it might take a while to figure out the dose regimen for kids, assuming that Covid will be with us for some time to come.

[old goat]

People actually being annoyed by others wearing masks has still got to be one of the most bizarre things about this pandemic.

Goddamit, I got a bunch of N95's and KF94's and I intend to use them, pandemic or no pandemic. (Maybe I should save them for allergy season if I have to go to Sacramento, and for smoke season.)

[bodywhomper]

Smoke season #1 is now


I read a few critiques of the new federal plan. The best summary that I read was that it removes “public” from “public health.” (and it ignores long covid)

[Whiteroom_Guardian]

Oregon Health Sciences study in the news today estimates 30% of people who caught COVID or more have long term effects.

WRG - looks like OHSU has has a referral program.

This is interesting. Thanks.

[skiJ]

Since the article explicitly stated this fact, you are posting your opinion on the contents of an article without reading it. Good job.

Let's bring it back to this thread. Do we capture and vaccinate these deer?

What happened to our SkiJ translator?

' Let's bring it back to this thread. Do we need to capture and vaccinate deer? '


per Cisco's encouragement -

' no (A$$pen). '


my "opinion" (?)
it really takes a special-kind-of stupid to offer this idea, unless it is intended as satire.
But given the poster is claiming that 'it has been confirmed' that deer transmit covid to a person.,
I cannot not take the post seriously...


of course, it takes my-special-kind-of stupid to pay any attention to what he posts...


sure - let's try to vaccinate wildlife. /s


un-believable.
I'm going to take a lap -

FknA. skiJ

[Adolf Allerbush]

This is interesting. Thanks.

Looks like a bill was introduced in the US Senate to study long-haul covid.

[Falcon3]

Three days without a post on this thread? People really are done with covid huh.

[SumJongGuy]

Three days without a post on this thread? People really are done with covid huh.

Community tests are coming back at less than 5% positive. Local mandates are coming down everywhere except some schools here tomorrow. Last night I relocated a large supply of KN95 masks from by the front door to an upper kitchen cabinet. Still have about a dozen different color masks I reuse available.. But, yep, only going to wear my face diaper in situations where I'm around non family in close proximity for more than 5-10 minutes as long as the hospitals remain in good shape to handle the demand.

If positive tests go up and hospitals get slammed again the mandates here will be brought bac, and for good reason.. But for now, enjoy it and hope it stays good and gone!

[rideit]

Speaking of the anti-vax crowd…


https://www.thedailybeast.com/first-...tests-positive

[Kevo]

I had a physical in the fall and my blood pressure was 120/80, which is pretty much where it has always been.

I had Covid in January. It knocked me out for a week.

I recently had a non-covid related check up again and my blood pressure was something insane like 170/90.

The doctor couldn't believe it. He thought I had white coat anxiety because I don't look like someone who has late state hypertension.

Now I'm wondering if it is long Covid related.

[Trackhead]

I had a physical in the fall and my blood pressure was 120/80, which is pretty much where it has always been.

I had Covid in January. It knocked me out for a week.

I recently had a non-covid related check up again and my blood pressure was something insane like 170/90.

The doctor couldn't believe it. He thought I had white coat anxiety because I don't look like someone who has late state hypertension.

Now I'm wondering if it is long Covid related.

One blood pressure in the clinical setting has almost no clinical meaning. Take it at home, after being seated for five minutes, with an appropriate sized cuff. Don't get all worked up......see this scenario play out literally every day I'm at work. Fix your brain on "long covid" and you'll funnel yourself right into it. While you may have a blood pressure that is above JNC-8 or AHA guidelines, you have not yet met that criteria with a single elevated BP in the clinical setting.

[Trackhead]

As I’m asking around, I’m realizing a lot of healthy youngish triple vaxxed friends got Omicron and were laid the fuck out for 10 or even 12 days. I’ve had it for 12 days now and was feeling ok yesterday but now my energy is low again.

The GPs won’t schedule appointments with anyone still showing symptoms, so it’s not clear to me how to get a review with a HC professional to see if the two antivirals might be appropriate to prescribe. I figured the other option would be to check into ER but that’s usually a 12 hour clusterfuck in the US and I don’t have the energy. GP office said that the local hospital has a Covid nurse who can help assess your situation over the phone — makes sense. But then I called back and was told there is no such nurse available.

I’m fine with saving the antivirals for those in a life threatening situation, but it is weird to see how untrained our local health care system is when it comes to basic process questions.

Paxlovid is only indicated for first five days illness, and for highest risk. I don't know you, but you fail to meet criteria #1. Molnupivir is same, and efficacy is shit. Move on from that consideration.

ER will not be beneficial, unless you are hypoxic, and at day 12, not a candidate for Remdesivir.

Two weeks out, normal to feel like shit still. Fatigue etc common to three weeks.

[Trackhead]

You’re probably one of the people that are genetically susceptible to those issues caused by Covid. It’s really a mystery. I know that doesn’t help and it’s frustrating but you’re alive. Others that are young and healthy AND unvaccinated have died.


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CT chest, while not really indicated, would answer your question about post covid lung pathology. You may have some mild pneumonitis, but I kinda doubt it. Lung ultrasound is also very easy, immediate feedback diagnostic. I do lung ultrasound on pretty much every covid patient I see both in the ED and clinic setting. I did one on myself every few days when I had covid. Offers real-time feed back of lung involvement. Cheap, no radiation, super fun. Drive to Townsend and I'll do one on you, just for fun. Takes five minutes.

I'm currently babysitting a few post covid pulmonary fibrosis patients (all older-poor health) who are pending pulmonology consults. Not much you can do for them...other than transplant. Med community still uncertain about anti-fibrotics.

[Whiteroom_Guardian]

^^^ I am starting to wonder how much of this is in the lungs and not so much heart related as I thought. IDK.

I did intervals again for the first time in 2 weeks on Saturday. 5 minute threshold blocks. Only got my HR up to 160. Again, started slow and warmup felt like crap. Mid way through the workout I felt really good. Afterwards I felt pretty good for a while. Followed with cold plunge > sauna cycles. Last night chest pain again. Today cough and tightness again.

[Trackhead]

^^^ I am starting to wonder how much of this is in the lungs and not so much heart related as I thought. IDK.

I did intervals again for the first time in 2 weeks on Saturday. 5 minute threshold blocks. Only got my HR up to 160. Again, started slow and warmup felt like crap. Mid way through the workout I felt really good. Afterwards I felt pretty good for a while. Followed with cold plunge > sauna cycles. Last night chest pain again. Today cough and tightness again.

If your exercise tolerance/pulmonary function is good enough to reach previous thresholds, I wouldn't worry about it. If you had definitive post-covid lung/cardiac pathology, you would not be doing intervals at threshold. You could get what I call a "therapeutic CT chest" which is really not at all indicated, just to lay the pathology question to rest. Nobody would order it though, as it is not indicated. Or go get pulmonary function test, or just give yourself time.

[Trackhead]

Lung Ultrasound - Pulmonary Fibrosis


And more, in idiopathic disease.

I have a follow up post covid fibrotic patient today.....will be using lung ultrasound eval progression.

[Kevo]

One blood pressure in the clinical setting has almost no clinical meaning. Take it at home, after being seated for five minutes, with an appropriate sized cuff. Don't get all worked up......see this scenario play out literally every day I'm at work. Fix your brain on "long covid" and you'll funnel yourself right into it. While you may have a blood pressure that is above JNC-8 or AHA guidelines, you have not yet met that criteria with a single elevated BP in the clinical setting.

Good info, thanks.

[supermodel159]

More good news out of Florida!

[Buzzworthy]

Fuck off Colin

[stuckathuntermtn]

Three days without a post on this thread? People really are done with covid huh.

I sure am. But of course covid rates are going down everywhere in the US except just about only Montana. Assholes.