To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

**Buster Highmen** · 09-23-2021, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by skiJ

guys...

I sincerely respect the efforts of several of you to refute the arguments of a couple of trolls, but clearly

the trolls are only interested in extending the argument with their 'what about... ' approach - -

the trolls are not discouraged by 'abuse' - to the trolls, there is no such thing as 'negative reinforcement' ; any response simply encourages the trolls to pursue the argument.

Please...

ignore them.

There is good Information in this thread, and

it gets progressively more difficult to find it in the vitriol.

Please ignore the trolls -
Please do not take. their. bait.

Thank you for your efforts.

Respectfully. tj

Sorry, I just get tired of trolls with no imagination. I mean, really, it's just so clumsy and dull. More like boors.

woof woof.

**MagnificentUnicorn** · 09-23-2021, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by mtuhockey33

I said it before and I’ll say it again for the idiots on here that can’t read or have little reading comprehension.

we don’t need vaccine mandates. We need antibody mandates. It doesn’t matter how you get the antibodies - you’re going to be fine. Even with the vaccine, you could have less antibodies than I do with a previous infection. Your antibodies could wane quicker than natural immunity due to multiple reasons or factors. The vice versa is also true.

the fact your side can’t differentiate between antibodies and no vaccine shows how base level and brain dead your side of the argument is.

Long term resistance to serious illness and death isn’t determined by antibodies, it’s a function of t and B cell memory.

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**MagnificentUnicorn** · 09-23-2021, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Skidog

I'm kinda over it. The "Borg" or "hive mind" absolutely sees nothing but their point..nothing will ever change it no matter how logical the argument or data.

Prior covid immunity antibodies wane...they're not good enough

Vaccine antibodies wane...so what .?

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It’s not about antibodies.

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**old goat** · 09-23-2021, 05:22 PM

HHS reports that about 10% of Americans want a shot but have not gotten one. Of the unvaxed 44% are willing or unsure, the rest are hard core no.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...d-but-willing/

**Ted Striker** · 09-23-2021, 05:27 PM

FFS...

So tiresome

**ex-powderbroker** · 09-23-2021, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Buster Highmen

But how many people get covid from anal sex?

i thought this was a core shit post

**old goat** · 09-23-2021, 05:32 PM

CDC panel recommends Pfizer booster for people who have had the Pfizer before--65+, 50+ with underlying health problems, but not people like HCW's with higher risk of exposure, so differing from the FDA on the last point. Walensky expected to go along with the panel.
The discrepancy between FDA and CDC is sure to throw the media into a tizzy.
OTOH, from the sound of things--getting a booster seems to be like getting out of jury duty.

**Buster Highmen** · 09-23-2021, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by ml242

i thought this was a core shit post

Sorry. Doggie style was more appropos.

**XXX-er** · 09-23-2021, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by skiJ

guys...

I sincerely respect the efforts of several of you to refute the arguments of a couple of trolls, but clearly

the trolls are only interested in extending the argument with their 'what about... ' approach - -

the trolls are not discouraged by 'abuse' - to the trolls, there is no such thing as 'negative reinforcement' ; any response simply encourages the trolls to pursue the argument.

Please...

ignore them.

There is good Information in this thread, and

it gets progressively more difficult to find it in the vitriol.

Please ignore the trolls -
Please do not take. their. bait.

Thank you for your efforts.

Respectfully. tj

yeah this ^^

I tire of listening to you folks trying to refute the trolls

the way to deal with a troll is stop talking to them

**MagnificentUnicorn** · 09-23-2021, 05:47 PM

I thought the way to deal with trolls was to smite them with a broadsword

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**SumJongGuy** · 09-23-2021, 05:56 PM

Darwin will deal with them

**skiJ** · 09-23-2021, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

I thought the way to deal with trolls was to smite them with a broadsword

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Thank you - I laughed...

tj

**Bunion 2020** · 09-23-2021, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

Darwin will deal with them

Ya think? My experience is people like this walk right through the raindrops of life and never a get splashed.

**AK47bp** · 09-23-2021, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by mtuhockey33

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....24.21262415v1

again - a scientific study that proves my point. The problem with TGR is the hive mind of the majority of its posters that can’t seem to think for themselves. Anything the hive mind says is law and anyone or anything that goes against it is automatically chastised and ignored regardless of the validity of their own sources.

You must be new here.

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**Core Shot** · 09-23-2021, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by ml242

i thought this was a core shit post

https://mobile.twitter.com/ArianaMic...31836000571398

**SumJongGuy** · 09-23-2021, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Bunion 2020

Ya think? My experience is people like this walk right through the raindrops of life and never a get splashed.

They're filling up ICUs and dropping like flies right now..

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**Bunion 2020** · 09-23-2021, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

They're filling up ICUs and dropping like flies right now..

Maybe, or maybe those dying are not so bright and easily swayed by bullshit arguments that are spread on FB and TGR.

BTW, I meant the trolls not the folks in the ICUs.

**XXX-er** · 09-23-2021, 07:06 PM

An MD on the CBC sez the dying are making room for more covid patients

Alberta is asking for help from ottawa

**Salvelinusconfluentus** · 09-23-2021, 07:08 PM

Today I had to ask an elderly lady to put her mask on.

She started yelling tell that to the japs! Its the japs! They brought this shit here! Damn stupid japs!

I did not tell her if she was going to be racist she should at least get her slurs right..

**Deebased** · 09-23-2021, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by MultiVerse

Over-and-over people have explained the immune system is more than just antibodies. Unlike antibodies, immune memory is durable. Family Guy even made a Short to explain how it works. The point being a positive result from an antibody test does not mean you have a specific amount of immunity or protection from SARS-CoV-2 infection. There needs to be proof of previous symptomatic infection.

What if we start infecting people 14 days prior to their trip.

Game....set...match

**Deebased** · 09-23-2021, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

My side? what side is that exactly? the one that wants to move on from this pandemic by vaccinating people?

Only one side has chosen not to move on. The other side has chosen to live with the problem and get it over with as quickly as possible.

**Kinnikinnick** · 09-23-2021, 07:57 PM

Gave it both barrels to an old friend now antivax loon.

He is not afraid to die!!
But frightened of a vax!!

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**ex-powderbroker** · 09-23-2021, 08:09 PM

hello bjorn borg mind -

could i have a link to evidence on whether the r0 changes in vaxxed vs unvaxxed people.

and also, how do you explain that a vaccinated person is less likely to get infected.

finally, a current makeup of people in hospitals and whether they were vaxxed or unvaxxed.

#savetheredhead