To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[PNWbrit]

So, I go to a workout group twice a week. 6-8 dudes, all educated, vaccinated, and ‘woke’ regarding covid. (Terrible term, but fits). One of the younger trainers is a vet, unvaxxed, and I gather not that bright. One dude in the group is a PA /MA, and just absolutely let him have It.
to paraphrase, he said “It’s guys like you who are the reason that we are in this situation again. If the population against vaccines had IQ’s greater than a doorstop, we could honestly try and end this mess. You should be ashamed of yourself. I put two guys about your age in the ICU this week. Think about that”
It was most excellent.
And a little awkward.

I tried breaking the tension with a joke about how I recovered by doing a shot of bleach each night, and that he might try that. There was polite chuckling.

Find a different trainer?

Are you paying this numb nut?

When someone says that they're not getting vaccinated because of >insert stupid reasons< why would you be anywhere near them?

[The Tortoise]

Well that and the mountain of empirical evidence you chose to ignore.

[rideit]

Find a different trainer?

Are you paying this numb nut?

When someone says that they're not getting vaccinated because of >insert stupid reasons< why would you be anywhere near them?

He isn’t our trainer, just another one at the gym. Everyone else is vaccinated. He sticks out. I have had Covid and am double-dosed, I’m not particularly concerned. He is never usually there when we are for obvious reasons.

[bennymac]

I’ll take things that never happened for $500, Alex!

I’ll take “you’re an insufferable twat” for free.

[wooley12]

I’ll take things that never happened for $500, Alex!

I'll bet $000 it did. Not everyone is an internet warrior/IRL pussy like you must be.

Congrats Rideit. You made ole Wooly's heart warm. Keep it up.

[Tri-Ungulate]

Yo, chill out mang. I know you're in the thick of it with your line of work, but I'm not entirely serious, but also not completely joking either. I'm just your typical apathetic Gen X'er who laughs at everyone from the sidelines.

Dude, your "not entirely joking" with your

Costs vs benefits. Short term vs long term.

is still bullshit, treating real lives (and deaths) like some kind of libertardian human ledger "cost of doing bizness".

Also a Gen X'er I can laugh at a lot, but not some Millennial with kids on a vent because they couldn't get vaxxed because they're immunocompromised and were exposed to fucktards who couldn't be bothered to raise a finger becuz freedumbz.

Aside from me though, have you not noticed the plethora of people here saying that the unvaccinated are getting what they deserve? How they'd be doing everyone a favor by getting taken out sooner than later? Been TONS of rhetoric like that around here, yet you're silent on them. I'm just getting on board and saying what everyone else is, albeit in a more crude fashion perhaps. Now you can calm your tits and get back to work.

As for your dumbass "both sides" argument, as well as your endless red vs. blue point-scoring - it's getting pretty fucking old. I could care less about some fatass dumbshit Texan politician rabid antivaxxer getting his just deserts.

It's having to deal with the fallout from selfish ratfucks with patients as mentioned above, who are a kind of collateral damage from the culture wars, as well as the headache of full ICUs and hospitals on divert statewide that fucking chafes me.

So no, I'm not gonna fucking calm my tits. I'm already working my ass off, as are people like Summit and MU and beaterdit and many others in the trenches.

[Casey E]

So Chile is now starting to give AstraZeneca boosters to the 55+ crowd with 2 doses of Sinovac completed up to May 31. I am lined up for August 19.

This, on the heels of a local study comparing the results of Pfizer, Sinovac and AZ, in which Sinovac came out on the bottom in preventing symptomatic infection (but is still pretty good at preventing hospitalization). With 82% of adults (13 million) now fully vaccinated, they have a good database to work on. The charts below are In spanish, but it is fairly obvious what is what.

Sinovac



Pfizer



AZ



English news item on same https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...ld-2021-08-03/

Studies show that antibodies from the Sinovac vaccination have been falling quicker than the other 2, and thus the boosters. New cases (1,000/day) and positivity (1.8%) are at their lowest since last April 2020, but 59 Delta cases have been identified, and the government is still reluctant to open borders to tourists.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Oh. So anecdotes counts as acceptable evidence for TGR now? Interesting.

No, but numbers from the FL department of health do. The hospitals are overloaded you insufferably stupid twat


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[Tri-Ungulate]

^^
The "anecdote" comment coming from the person who posted about how his sister-in-law's Uber driver's hairdresser's Facebook post said something something something is pretty fucking rich.

[PNWbrit]

selfish ratfucks

This ^

you insufferably stupid twat

And this ^

[k2skier112]

Are you not seeing any increase in COVID admissions at the hospital you work at?


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I pray to Dog he's a janitor!

[splat]

Why would you think that? It just fucking happened, I was there. People are getting fed up, and the health care workers are PISSED. It started when the trainer-dude said he had ‘trust issues’ with the vaccine (and likely anything since Trump), which is pathetic.

[neufox47]

My 80+ aunt with lupus just got diagnosed with it. She’s double dosed with Phizer, 6 months ago. She’s doing ok so far but it’s early. Her husband has mesothelioma from 25 years in the navy and he was exposed significantly but negative so far. Both have pretty tough pre-existing conditions. Hoping the vaccine is enough even so. She is in northern Florida. Hope they make it.


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[rideit]

Sending positive thoughts.

[huckbucket]

United Airlines to require vaccination of all 67,000 employees in U.S.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/un...-s-01628251102

Perfect. Now extend this to all passengers.

[tuco]

^^^Yep
Should require for concerts, sporting events, etc, etc.

[Hobie Dick]

I really do not understand the mindset of liberals... Leftists tell you to shit and you squat.

That you believe this flare up of covid is due to freedom loving Americans and not a million filthy illegal aliens streaming across our non existent border is another example of why liberalism is a mental disease

The democrat party cums and you swallow.

[tuco]

The first five words of your post offer the most clarity to your mindset
The fact you're making it about politics shows you might not be that smart.....

[Adolf Allerbush]

The first five words of your post offer the most clarity to your mindset
The fact you're making it about politics shows you might not be that smart.....

I guess the flare up in Florida is from all those dirty immigrants from the nonexistent border with Georgia and Alabama?

[tuco]

Fuck, no shit! The racist fuck made it about that too.

[dunfree]

When blame illegals fails they’ll move on to the next stupid idea their media masters implant in the shriveled pea husk of a brain.

[Bunion 2020]

A quick glance at its posting history reveals what a shitbag really looks like.

[Skidog]

^^^Yep
Should require for concerts, sporting events, etc, etc.

how does one go about "proving this"? Far as I know there are ZERO databases that hold info on whos (name etc) had the vaccine. Are we going to say a paper card with a vax lot # and brand is affirmation that you are vaxxed? Its already well known that they are selling those cards all over the place now...

[tuco]

Not sure, but Foo Fighters did it

[The AD]

Gotta say the ignore function has made this discussion much better for me. I highly recommend it.