To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

**ron johnson** · 08-03-2021, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

But RJ said things were fine in FL

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Florida got hit last summer at a similar time. Looks like about 2 weeks behind last year. Florida peak should be here soon, still doing fine with deaths.

**ron johnson** · 08-03-2021, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

Totally. Things are going great. Covid-19 deaths for the week of 7/31 were 130 in FLA and 14 in NY State...those are absolute numbers, I didn't try to adjust for population density, but as you might expect that would make it worse for FLA.

Actually you wouldn't because FL has more people than NY. What's your excuse going to be when NY is doing worse in late fall/winter?

**splat** · 08-03-2021, 06:50 PM

Yeah, I can see how 2 million more people in FL would really skew the numbers based on the fact they each have +/- 20 million.

**wooley12** · 08-03-2021, 06:59 PM

RJ is the My Pillow guy.

**huckbucket** · 08-03-2021, 07:07 PM

“One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear”

**ron johnson** · 08-03-2021, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by splat

Yeah, I can see how 2 million more people in FL would really skew the numbers based on the fact they each have +/- 20 million.

He said adjusting for population would make it worse. It wouldn't.

**Skidog** · 08-03-2021, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by splat

When people on the right talk about “freedom” what they actually mean is closer to “defense of privilege” — specifically the right of certain people (generally white male Christians) to do whatever they want.

Yeah you totally don't live "white privilege"? Bullshit. But I'm sure there are plenty of inner city minorities that hang on "la playa"..all the pics I've seen look pretty fucking white.

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**ill-advised strategy** · 08-03-2021, 08:19 PM

I guess I’ve not been watching the news. I looked into it, my county is one of very few little green spots on the map, and (as you all clearly know) the guidance has changed from vaccinated people not being spreaders to I guess we’re vectors for transmission after all.

So, you know, apparently I smoked the proverbial crack before posting, and for that I will take a lap.

**The SnowShow** · 08-03-2021, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by huckbucket

“One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear”

It’ll be gone by Easter! We’ll have a yuuuge reopening!

**Mr. Mike** · 08-03-2021, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

Totally. Things are going great. Covid-19 deaths for the week of 7/31 were 130 in FLA and 14 in NY State...those are absolute numbers, I didn't try to adjust for population density, but as you might expect that would make it worse for FLA.

Well if Florida had 9 times the population of New York it would equivalent. Does Florida have 9 times the population of new york? I don’t know off the top of my head. I wonder if there is a way to quickly look that up?

**AK47bp** · 08-03-2021, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki

Yup, pretty much. And that's how Trump got elected. White fear/resentment. Fucking crackers fucking shit up for everyone.

affirmative action hangover

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**Buster Highmen** · 08-03-2021, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Buster Highmen

Interesting data here. Note FL.

https://news.google.com/covid19/map?...S&ceid=US%3Aen .

Cases per 1M:
North Dakota 146,583
Rhode Island 145,691
South Dakota 141,542
Utah 134,917
Tennessee 128,838
Oklahoma 121,465
Florida 120,623
Iowa 120,377
South Carolina 119,864
Alabama 119,801
Nebraska 118,098
Wisconsin 118,057

Mask compliance was never anywhere near 90%, at least across ID, UT,WY and CO.

fyi FL cases >> NY cases per capita.

**Dexter Rutecki** · 08-03-2021, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy

I guess I’ve not been watching the news. I looked into it, my county is one of very few little green spots on the map, and (as you all clearly know) the guidance has changed from vaccinated people not being spreaders to I guess we’re vectors for transmission after all.

So, you know, apparently I smoked the proverbial crack before posting, and for that I will take a lap.

Yes, infected vaxed people, even asymptomatic, can spread it, but it remains the case that we are far, far less likely to be infected in the first place because the vaccines work. And we will also almost certainly not die from it, unlike the unvaxed, because again, the fucking vaccines work. And if the middle America mouth breathers would figure this shit out we could be basically done with all this bullshit.

**Conundrum** · 08-03-2021, 09:30 PM

Wait...you mean to tell me that the un-vaxed people that haven't and won't wear masks would benefit from me who is vaxed wearing a mask? But my freedoms...

**ron johnson** · 08-03-2021, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by Buster Highmen

fyi FL cases >> NY cases per capita.

NY got hit the hardest when testing was at it's lowest.

**Core Shot** · 08-03-2021, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by dunfree

so you were in Provincetown?

Not this year. But a decade ago I stumbled into bear weekend.

Been to halsted street parades in Chicago so gay is fine by me. You be you. . But damn. That was a literal metric shit ton of fat hairy men.

**Core Shot** · 08-03-2021, 10:28 PM

Israel doesn’t want you anymore

Starting from August 11, all travelers entering Israel from these countries will be required to isolate for a minimum of seven days – even if they are fully vaccinated

Mmmmkay. Vaccine no worky? No freedumbs? How’s that working for ya.
Looking forward to the fall and winter lockdowns. It will be Deja vu.

**bennymac** · 08-03-2021, 11:27 PM

“Israel’s entry requirements are the same whether you are fully vaxxed or not”

does not equal:

“vaccinated people are the same as unvaccinated people”

This is kinda like what is tested on the LSAT. Which explains why you collect rent and carry a plunger.

**The AD** · 08-03-2021, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Core Shot

Mmmmkay. Vaccine no worky? No freedumbs? How’s that working for ya.

Man, you're really doubling and tripling down on the stupidity, but you know that. Not sure exactly why you want come across as an idiot, but you do you.

**Adolf Allerbush** · 08-04-2021, 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by splat

Yeah, I can see how 2 million more people in FL would really skew the numbers based on the fact they each have +/- 20 million.

Key words that RJ missed we're "population density", not total population.

**Benny Profane** · 08-04-2021, 05:33 AM

They vax cows, dont they?

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...ax-cows-502249

**huckbucket** · 08-04-2021, 05:56 AM

This is roughly the last 30 pages in this thread summarized in one excellent article.

https://insidemedicine.bulletin.com/522108225713159

**MagnificentUnicorn** · 08-04-2021, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by ron johnson

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Florida got hit last summer at a similar time. Looks like about 2 weeks behind last year. Florida peak should be here soon, still doing fine with deaths.

Hmm, still #5 for deaths per 100k seven day average. That’s fine if you want to look at it that way.

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**frorider** · 08-04-2021, 06:36 AM

Shit’s getting real guys:

American rock band The Offspring has dropped drummer Pete Parada because he won't get vaccinated, according to Parada's social media posts.

"Since I am unable to comply with what is increasingly becoming an industry mandate -- it has recently been decided that I am unsafe to be around, in the studio, and on tour," Parada posted on social media.