"All weather" tires in place of winter tires

[Benny Profane]

People used to run around with rear wheel drive vehicles with no positraction aka limited slip differential, and ran belted ply highway tires.
Do whatever the fuck you want.

Hey, I saw those people one night on I70. Climbing the hill to the tunnel from the west side, hammering snow, and I look over to the slow lane/shoulder, and there's three kids in street clothes PUSHING I think a late 80s American rear drive something or other, couldn't tell. I'm thinking, what the fuck, where are they pushing it too? It's still a quarter mile to the tunnel!

[Rideski]

It’s okay, they have screws embedded in their sneakers.

[PNWbrit]

They probably weren't locals.

[whyturn]

People used to run around with rear wheel drive vehicles with no positraction aka limited slip differential, and ran belted ply highway tires.
Do whatever the fuck you want.

And these are the ones trying to get up the hill on a pow day blocking the road for the rest of us. It’s clear they are done but they try anyways. Then nobody skis.

I put my snows on the car today and hope you do too!


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[gaijin]

Standard in JP to run two sets per vehicle. I used to run BFGoodrich All Terrain in the US and never gave studless snow tires a drop of curiosity.

Boy was I wrong. Blizzaks are amazing.

Michelins are a bit looser and my least favorite. Still leagues ahead of the BFG AT.

1- Bridgestone Blizzak
2- Dunlop
3- Yokohama
4- Michelin

Still can’t convince my dad to rotate seasonally, though. It’s not more expensive over the years. But it feels expensive at first.

[ntblanks]

And these are the ones trying to get up the hill on a pow day blocking the road for the rest of us. It’s clear they are done but they try anyways. Then nobody skis.

I put my snows on the car today and hope you do too!


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sounds like you ski lcc and bcc. on a storm day one rear-wheel drive rental with an inexperienced driver is all it takes.

[blackalps]

People used to run around with rear wheel drive vehicles with no positraction aka limited slip differential, and ran belted ply highway tires.
Do whatever the fuck you want.

yeah? a lot more people died in car wrecks back then, too. Fatalities per 100k registered vehicles has been cut in half just since 94, and fatalities per 1million miles driven has dropped significantly, too. That's a stupid fucking argument.

[blackalps]

Standard in JP to run two sets per vehicle. I used to run BFGoodrich All Terrain in the US and never gave studless snow tires a drop of curiosity.

Boy was I wrong. Blizzaks are amazing.

Michelins are a bit looser and my least favorite. Still leagues ahead of the BFG AT.

1- Bridgestone Blizzak
2- Dunlop
3- Yokohama
4- Michelin

Still can’t convince my dad to rotate seasonally, though. It’s not more expensive over the years. But it feels expensive at first.

I had Blizzak VM-2's on my 4runner. damn things were unstoppable. Lost count of how many people I pulled out of the snow that season. You can't leave them on, though. If you drive on them when it's dry, they just burn up.

[3PinGrin]

Standard in JP to run two sets per vehicle. I used to run BFGoodrich All Terrain in the US and never gave studless snow tires a drop of curiosity.

Boy was I wrong. Blizzaks are amazing.

Michelins are a bit looser and my least favorite. Still leagues ahead of the BFG AT.

1- Bridgestone Blizzak
2- Dunlop
3- Yokohama
4- Michelin

Still can’t convince my dad to rotate seasonally, though. It’s not more expensive over the years. But it feels expensive at first.

The problem with two sets is that if you give them a beating in the mountains during winter months on rocks, creek crossings, stumps etc. there are concerns with true snows getting sidewall damage without side lugs and E rated tires with a true squared off edge pattern. As discussed on another thread though, doesn't appear to be any magic bullets for a one tire quiver. Chains are still the standard it seems for that application of having one tire year round that can take a lot of sidewall abuse.

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[Rideski]

yeah? a lot more people died in car wrecks back then, too. Fatalities per 100k registered vehicles has been cut in half just since 94, and fatalities per 1million miles driven has dropped significantly, too. That's a stupid fucking argument.

Man up and learn to put chains on your Chevy chevette or shut the fuck up.

[whyturn]

sounds like you ski lcc and bcc. on a storm day one rear-wheel drive rental with an inexperienced driver is all it takes.

Well not exactly but it is a two lane ski resort road with significant grade. Same result as LCC or BCC. It’s more the people who rent and stay at the condos down the hill. That road is fine so they think they are fine. Then they leave in the morning and quickly realize that 16% grade is very different than the village road to the condo.

Then it’s too late and they can’t turn around


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[ntblanks]

Well not exactly but it is a two lane ski resort road with significant grade. Same result as LCC or BCC. It’s more the people who rent and stay at the condos down the hill. That road is fine so they think they are fine. Then they leave in the morning and quickly realize that 16% grade is very different than the village road to the condo.

Then it’s too late and they can’t turn around


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ah. now sounds like powmow. that's some serious grade. and zero shoulder.

[3PinGrin]

ah. now sounds like powmow. that's some serious grade. and zero shoulder.

brake burner

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[blackalps]

Man up and learn to put chains on your Chevy chevette or shut the fuck up.

fuck you. eat a bag of dicks. your luddite, wannabe macho, tiny penis compensating bullshit masquerading as an opinion is irrelevant and pathetic. you're an insult to your avatar image.

[TurxSki]

fuck you. eat a bag of dicks. your luddite, wannabe macho, tiny penis compensating bullshit masquerading as an opinion is irrelevant and pathetic. you're an insult to your avatar image.

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[pureantigravity]

fuck you. eat a bag of dicks. your luddite, wannabe macho, tiny penis compensating bullshit masquerading as an opinion is irrelevant and pathetic. you're an insult to your avatar image.

Ahhh. How I miss the TGR of old. No one treading carefully and insults for all seasons.
What a bunch of asshats arguing about tires.

[blackalps]

Make a stupid asshole statement and be a dick about it, get an asshole reply. Cry some more about what tires I put on my truck. FFS. It’s tech talk, people talk about gear. read a different thread if you don’t like it.

[Rideski]

Right maybe if you read the thread you’d know the OP was taklking about a new designation of tires, which your post had nothing to do with, just like it didn’t have anything to do with the i70 shit show thread you also posted your tire question in, when there’s already 15 fucking tire threads on here.

[tuco]

People used to run around with rear wheel drive vehicles with no positraction aka limited slip differential, and ran belted ply highway tires.
Do whatever the fuck you want.

Posi and Limited slip sukballz in snow, especially going around corners

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

Posi and Limited slip sukballz in snow, especially going around corners

But awesome for parking lot snownuts!

[El Chupacabra]

Right maybe if you read the thread you’d know the OP was taklking about a new designation of tires, which your post had nothing to do with, just like it didn’t have anything to do with the i70 shit show thread you also posted your tire question in, when there’s already 15 fucking tire threads on here.

This.

But this thread also drifted into "My Hakkapelllkllitjshkfh are awesome" quickly, a long time ago.

It seems like those who have tried the all weather tires found them OK in snow - occupying that middle ground between all seasons and winter tires. Whether that turns out to be good enough snow performance probably depends on each person's specific location.

[Benny Profane]

I think that a big consideration here is to also ditch the wide, low profile sizes that they put on a lot of "sport" designation models, which would help a bit.

I'm pissed that I can't find the "aggressive" all weathers I put on my Forester about seven years ago that worked so well, I bought a second pair when the first pair wore out (for effective snow usage, still good for summer) after about 30,000 miles. Continentals, but I forgot which ones, and Tire Rack doesn't have a record of it anymore.

[Benny Profane]

Has the Michelin Cross Climate SUV been mentioned yet? Pricey, but, come recommended.

[Rideski]

Posi and Limited slip sukballz in snow, especially going around corners

You’re more of a mechanic than me so opinion noted but I always thought my two Jeep’s were pretty good blizzard chasers and they had it. Not sure if my f150 does or not, it was passed to me by a friend. Both slightly irrelevant since I’d drop into 4wd for anything sketchy. Definitely have never driven highway speed in any rear wheel drive only vehicle on ice. My dad had a Gran Torino with posi and he loved to go driving in snow storms around the neighborhood. He wasn’t a skier though unfortunately.

[tuco]

Still all about the tires or chains. Two spinning wheels are worse for traction than 1 for snow/ice.