2020 Wildfire Season

[bodywhomper]

Lobbing molotov articles back and forth doesn't fix anything.

O snap!

[LongShortLong]

In WA in the National Parks (Olympic, Rainier) and wilderness areas the powers that be have a policy of not trying to fight naturally started fires. They just let it burn uncontrolled. Not sure if this is the same policy in OR and CA.

Same in CA. I had the wilderness ranger tell me where there's a fire and to watch for rolling rocks and logs. Yosemite has 2 fires right now, just monitoring. There's one in King's Canyon NP too - they have an advisory but no trails are closed - I suppose you could camp next to it (in it?). Might be a few others, I happened to stumble on those while looking at unrelated things. Lassen NP caught flack a few years ago when one of their monitored fires escaped into the surrounding forest. Most of these areas are high enough there aren't a lot of trees, nor chance of a large crown fire. (Lassen excluded)

[bobz]

Same in CA. I had the wilderness ranger tell me where there's a fire and to watch for rolling rocks and logs. Yosemite has 2 fires right now, just monitoring. There's one in King's Canyon NP too - they have an advisory but no trails are closed - I suppose you could camp next to it (in it?). Might be a few others, I happened to stumble on those while looking at unrelated things. Lassen NP caught flack a few years ago when one of their monitored fires escaped into the surrounding forest. Most of these areas are high enough there aren't a lot of trees, nor chance of a large crown fire. (Lassen excluded)

Yosemite has had some wildfires in the past few years that they definitely did some firefighting work on; and with some of those, they let it burn within particular zones while monitoring it. Yose NP has been doing controlled burns for a very long time, back since when it was considered a somewhat novel idea.


(And thanks, Mike; that tidbit about China Peak came to me second hand, so good to hear that it probably didn't happen.)

[bodywhomper]

I’m pretty sure a tanker pilot crashed and died a few years ago fighting a fire in Yosemite.

[old goat]

I'd like to see the CCC revived to do forest thinning. Good work for unemployed reasonably fit men and women without college degrees. Expand the age limit upwards and don't limit to single men.. Help solve our wildfire problem and our rural unemployment/underemployment problem. Pay a living wage.

[LongShortLong]

(And thanks, Mike; that tidbit about China Peak came to me second hand, so good to hear that it probably didn't happen.)

Check yesterday's SierraNF briefing.

[subtle plague]

Thats what the government wants you to think, but in reality it's much more complicated than that.

That's liberal deep state physics! If you believe that the lord will send you fresh air, he will!

And don't forget patriot physics which is way better than liberal physics. If you shoot your AR 15 at the smoke often enough, it'll go away, just like immigrants who steal your jobs.

[bobz]

https://abc30.com/creek-fire-china-p...blaze/6414853/

Sounds like at least some part of the arsenal went off.

[LightRanger]

Just logged back into this shithole site for the first time in like seven months, so not sure if anybody has posted this yet, but there's a very interesting seminar being put on by University of California fire folks right now. Free and online. First session was yesterday.

Check it.


Sign up here:
https://frg.berkeley.edu/california-...sx96VCePRH70O4

I found this graphic interesting.

[neufox47]

Regarding indoor air quality, one of the best things you can do is to run the fan on your hvac system with the house closed up. If it’s really bad seal fan entrances, etc. change the filters every couple of weeks or after the smoke clears. Your fan can probably do an air change of your house in a few hours.

Portable filters also work. I have a office shed I work out of and the difference is noticeable when I have a little $70 filter inside running.

One of the best economy filters you can make is to put a good hvac filter on the back of a box fan. Box fans move a lot of air. Make sure tape it / seal it to the back or a lot of the air will pass through any openings. I had a filter that was a little too small for the fan, so I took the cardboard sides off and stretched it over the fan. That also made it easier to tape it up with a good seal.

Happy breathing.


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[buttahflake]

It must suck living out west, for real.
Vibes

[~mikey b]

https://abc30.com/creek-fire-china-p...blaze/6414853/

Sounds like at least some part of the arsenal went off.

[emoji106]

[MTT]

It must suck living out west, for real.
Vibes

On the east slope of the Sierra,. It kinda sucks. But not the end of the world. No C S gas . It's just like being on the down wind side of a campfire

[Norseman]

https://gispub.epa.gov/airnow/

[seano732]

I just saw a news blurb that the Multnomah County Sherrif is getting calls that armed civilians are setting up road blocks throughout the county..... Anyone else hear about that? Seems like a bad idea......

[GoldMember]

Spokane was 62 last night, now 159 and rising, I'm sure. The next 48 hours are going to suck.

[seano732]

Here’s what I was talking about. Corbet.
https://twitter.com/multcoso/status/...314930688?s=21

[PB]

They used to burn all the rice fields yearly, around this time. Sacramento got it often enough to pass a law despite the strong ag lobby. Would guess it blew into the bay now and then.

Based on the 30 year time period, the Oakland hills should have burnt once or twice too. They are currently due - maybe this year.

Satellites make it more obvious what's going on. In the 60's, who's to distinguish a local grass fire from a distant forest fire?

I have less than fond memories of the rice burning, but it was much more local as I recall ..... but then I was living in Davis so obviously didn't see what might have been happening in the Bay Area. While I would never blindly trust my memories of 60+ years ago, I have no recollection of any smoke days at all on the Peninsula. Another more current and local climate change issue is the complete disappearance of Tule/ground fog over the last 30 years - at most we now might see a little bit of high fog blow down from the North part of the Valley as the morning progresses that then quickly burns off.

[KQ]

Spokane was 62 last night, now 159 and rising, I'm sure. The next 48 hours are going to suck.

We've come down a few points. Now at 435. Woot! Ugh. Came in from morning chores and had to throw all my clothes in the wash right away so they didn't stink up the house. So gross.

Animals seem to be handling it okay.

Here’s what I was talking about. Corbett.
https://twitter.com/multcoso/status/...314930688?s=21

Idiots.

[2FUNKY]

AQI is 142 in Coeur d’Alene and rising like crazy. The visual degradation of the air since 6am this morning is significant as well. Keeping the house closed up with exhaust fans in bathrooms running. AQI forecast for the next couple of days is depressing but is supposed to lower significantly starting Tuesday.

[John_B]

Here’s what I was talking about. Corbet.
https://twitter.com/multcoso/status/...314930688?s=21

I'd 100% believe that would be the case in areas around Corbett. That's 20 air miles from the nearest fire so the Antifa looters must really be spreading out.

The Multnomah Sheriff isn't doing much to bolster their credibility in that situation with a tweet about "We understand their intent, but..."

[John_B]

AQI is 142 in Coeur d’Alene and rising like crazy. The visual degradation of the air since 6am this morning is significant as well. Keeping the house closed up with exhaust fans in bathrooms running. AQI forecast for the next couple of days is depressing but is supposed to lower significantly starting Tuesday.

2Funky if you're running the exhaust fans in the bathrooms all that is doing is pulling new smoky area into the house. Those fans aren't doing anything for air purification. Good luck with the smoke.

[MultiVerse]

^ Yeah, unless a house has a filtered make-up air system running exhaust fans will pull in more polluted outside air through leaks in the building structure.

[2FUNKY]

I should have been more clear, just hit them this morning for a little while to clear the house. It works, house no longer smells of smoke from having the windows open all night. House is locked up tight now. Just put new whole house filters in yesterday and will change in a couple days.

[bourbonisgood]

Spokane was 62 last night, now 159 and rising, I'm sure. The next 48 hours are going to suck.

Tried to sneak in a dawn patrol ride this morning at Beacon before the thick stuff rolls in. Had to call it after 10 miles...probably shouldn’t have gone