Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[muted]

Vibes. Keep an eye on her though. I mentioned earlier that we have a friend who had unmistakable symptoms, tested negative, then developed the blood clotting, and they won't retest him. Either his case is one heckuva coincidence or it was a false negative result.

I think you should flip a coin to see if you have it or not, if they won't retest him.

Am I understanding the last couple pages of this thread correctly?

[riser4]

I think you should flip a coin to see if you have it or not, if they won't retest him.

Am I understanding the last couple pages of this thread correctly?

I haven't been in physical contact. They live a few streets over. Hearing about it on FB.

[Core Shot]

Can you get sick drinkin piss?

I’ve gotten sick drunk from getting pissed



Would you walk a mile for camel piss?

[Buster Highmen]

. My agenda includes acquiring tomato plants and a hike, and feeling smart (smug?) enough to post here.

Seems like you're looking for peers.

[Buster Highmen]

I think you should flip a coin to see if you have it or not, if they won't retest him.

Am I understanding the last couple pages of this thread correctly?

Only until we develop a better coin.

[bennymac]

Only until we develop a better coin.

the white house gift shop has some nice ones I hear

[subtle plague]

Only until we develop a better coin.

To pay for the beers of pear shaped peers?

[Buster Highmen]

To pay for the beers of pear shaped peers?

So I hear, from the near seer in the rear.

[Ski220]

I have stepped back from the daily barrage for the last couple of weeks, so please excuse me if this question I have has been covered.

Questions: In compiling percentage mortality stats for Corona19, are only actual deaths being counted? What about deaths that would have occurred sans effective interventions? Are these cases being accounted for?

It seems to me that without hospitalization and therapeutic interventions, the death rate would be much higher. Of course countering this, we still have no real knowledge of the true infection rate of the population due to a lack of availability / accuracy rate of testing that is available.

[KQ]

I have stepped back from the daily barrage for the last couple of weeks, so please excuse me if this question I have has been covered.

Questions: In compiling percentage mortality stats for Corona19, are only actual deaths being counted? What about deaths that would have occurred sans effective interventions? Are these cases being accounted for?

It seems to me that without hospitalization and therapeutic interventions, the death rate would be much higher. Of course countering this, we still have no real knowledge of the true infection rate of the population due to a lack of availability / accuracy rate of testing that is available.

Read this:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...c9NccpHS6F8H8Y

[KQ]

real talk

wife started showing symptoms of either 1-allergies 2-covid on tuesday. Wednesday wakes up and cant taste the coffee. Calls our doc who does conference call with covid hotline. Come get tested. She mentions to our doc that I had a headache and sinus issues last week. I have a RP test ran on me every monday at work and haven't popped hot for any of the 27 pathogens (not including covid) and was clean. Yeah lets test him too and team htfb quarenteened until results come back. I got to do the driveup testing at Altaview Hospital. Those nurses are fucking heroes and should be paid 1000 an hour to do those tests. That fucking sinus swab is no goddamned joke and Im coughing and spewing right in their papr'd face and onto their 3 levels of PPE. It was insane.

Nuked the house and cars with a decon protocol that would make CDC proud. Im the only one that leaves the house and travels into hotzones like grocery or bank so I had to be the vector Fuck. Drank too goddamned much last night worried for my kid with asthma my friends who I may not have socially distanced properly from and the potential for my wife to die. I slept downstairs and woke up to the wife sitting in my bed with the laptop on the myhealth wedsite and we are both negative.

Be well my friends

Could just be a sinus infection or allergies. I deal with both and often have debilitating headaches accompanied by loss of smell/taste.

It really sucks esp. now that this virus is circulating and those are symptoms. Lately I've found some relief from an old fashioned source - a Vicks inhaler stick.

[bodywhomper]

After listening to a description of self isolation from family (and dog) if I test positive and i am asymptomatic, I’d give the drink your A. muscaria piss a try.

[AK47bp]

Can you get sick drinkin piss?

Depends


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[iceman]

KQ have you ever tried Xlear? Shit's been a lifesaver for me, no sinus infections in the 2 years since I started using it and they were constant and bad before. https://xlear.com/xlear/xlear-sinus-...al-spray.html#

[Ski220]

Read this:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...c9NccpHS6F8H8Y

Have read that already. But thank you.

My question involves the true potential mortality rate of the virus which I believe is not accurately portraid due to the availability of modern medical interventions.

Quote:
The CFR’s denominator—total cases—depends on how thoroughly a country tests its population. Its numerator—total deaths—depends on the spread of ages within that population, the prevalence of preexisting illnesses, how far people live from hospitals, and how well staffed or well equipped those hospitals are. These factors vary among countries, states, and cities, and the CFR will, too. (Majumder and her colleagues are now building tools for predicting regional CFRs, so local leaders can determine which regions are most vulnerable.)
: End Quote

What this is saying is, is that we don't really have accurate numbers. What it does not say is, should acute cases that require hospitalization be counted as potential deaths when compiling the data?


I would say yes.

Very early on someone made a back of the envelope calculation of 80,000 deaths minimum. Math at the time seemed reasonable to me then and still does.

[Name Redacted]

KQ have you ever tried Xlear? Shit's been a lifesaver for me, no sinus infections in the 2 years since I started using it and they were constant and bad before. https://xlear.com/xlear/xlear-sinus-...al-spray.html#

I need to try that. Went to the desert last week and the allergies have been off the hook. Even if I don't have the 'Rona, I will because I'm constantly touching my face to blow/wipe my nose and stuff. Headache for the last few days too. I'm probably gonna die. Oh well, it was a good run.

[iceman]

Nice knowin ya.

In the meantime, though, give the xlear a shot. it's not magic but it does seem to work.

[KQ]

KQ have you ever tried Xlear? Shit's been a lifesaver for me, no sinus infections in the 2 years since I started using it and they were constant and bad before. https://xlear.com/xlear/xlear-sinus-...al-spray.html#

I have not but will look into it. I do use a NeilMed neti.

[DougW]

which vaccine?

when one is developed , will it provide better, worse, maybe both better and worse immunity compared to having the infection itself ( off course with all the affects that having the infection brings with it : death, hospitalizations , long term whatever in some cases)

[iceman]

@KQ: Yeah the spray is what I use I haven't tried their irrigation thing. I have kind of a collection of Neti shit, it was better than nothing, but I've had better results with the xlear twice a day, a good amount of it, like 3-4 sprays each side morning and night.

[KQ]

@KQ: Yeah the spray is what I use I haven't tried their irrigation thing. I have kind of a collection of Neti shit, it was better than nothing, but I've had better results with the xlear twice a day, a good amount of it, like 3-4 sprays each side morning and night.

Weird that it has xylitol. Very poisonous for dogs so be careful if you have a pooch.

[iceman]

I tried it but they won't hold still.

[zion zig zag]

What this is saying is, is that we don't really have accurate numbers. What it does not say is, should acute cases that require hospitalization be counted as potential deaths when compiling the data?


I would say yes.

Very early on someone made a back of the envelope calculation of 80,000 deaths minimum. Math at the time seemed reasonable to me then and still does.

Potential deaths. That'd be a strange stat. It's hard to count things that don't happen.

[bodywhomper]

I have not but will look into it. I do use a NeilMed neti.

I think the squeeze bottle is where it’s at.

[Buster Highmen]

Hello, my name is Buster Highmen and I have allergy problems. Usually late March to mid April I'm sneezing, teary eyed, blowing the schnozz every 5 minutes, just gushing mucous.

Mucous remind me of Mnuchin, I wonder why. So does smarmy and unctuous. Maybe that's his picture in the dictionary?

Anyway, I had used Claritin with some success and wielded the neti pot with viscous abandon.

But still I oozed. It's supposedly some mix of alder, cedar and maple pollen that wastes me. I had no idea broad leaf maples had flowers. Another joke, but I won't go there.

Then I started on consuming local honey with regularity all fall and winter on the morning steel ground oatmeal, those little rocks one boils into submission.

Lo and behold, it seems to have had a beneficial effect. I still have some snot and sneezing, but nothing like I'd had. About 4 or 5 days a year I'll backpedal and resort to Claritin in a fit of muscous, but by and large I'm getting closer to being allergy free.