Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[skaredshtles]

From Bing....

Heh.

[iceman]

Glade master is dreaming of an autonomous collective

Well, he's being repressed.

[iceman]

I hate lumping NYC with the rest of the state given the large difference in positivity.

Well, don't just divide it into NYC and "Upstate" or there will problems.

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1253448500676898818

We. are. all. going. to. die.

[Bunion 2020]

Quiet, can't you see I am doing bong hits of bleach.

[The AD]

Surprised no one has mentioned this yet:
https://unofficialnetworks.com/2020/...ns-for-skiing/

Kind of surprising a mountain in California is the first to reopen.

[skaredshtles]

Quiet, can't you see I am doing bong hits of bleach.

I think a more reasonable approach would be to simply inhale some straight chlorine gas. There is no WAY the COVID-19 would survive that.

[evdog]

I do think that we need a little pushback to encourage the govt to start thinking about how and when to begin working toward reopening things. Especially in places that have met certain qualifications like infection and death rate slowdowns, and testing requirements.

I agree here. I'd continue to prohibit any gatherings of people who don't live together since 10 or fewer people can still spread virus. But we should be able to open more businesses currently considered non-essential that could have minimal person to person contact using curbside pickup or limiting number of people inside a store. Perhaps businesses each come up with a plan documenting precautions to be taken and how they could operate with minimal contact. Once approved they can open under those conditions.

Other businesses that do entail contact could open once testing is available on a regular basis for staff. For now I don't think things like hairdressers, massage, tattoo parlors, dentists should be open where there is close contact for a period of time. Restaurants, maybe if alternate tables are removed and it is individuals or co-habitants only. Not sure how you police that. Someone pointed out restaurants can wipe down tables and dishes are obviously cleaned between uses. On the other hand you can't really wear a mask when eating.

The other question is if these types of businesses were open again would they see enough traffic to survive? Restaurants need to operate at a certain capacity to break even just like stores need to sell a certain amount of product.

so if you reopen businesses and attractions in a county or city, how do you keep asymptomatic people from a CV impacted city/county from going there and infecting people?

This is why regions should be working together to have a consistent strategy. When LA County closed parks and trails, Ventura County immediately followed recognizing that its parks and trails would become a destination for both its residents and LA County. Right now Orange County is the only place with open beaches. They are considering closing them with hot weather approaching so it won't become a destination for people in SD and LA. San Diego city just opened trails in its open space parks in part to make access more consistent with County, State and Fed trail access which were seeing high traffic due to City closures. Re-opening City trails should help avoid crowding.

Model suggests the virus spread widely in the US before detection.

It would make sense that it did spread more than previously thought, but how would doctors not have noticed some unusual cases earlier on? If a % of cases require hospitalization and a % of those cases require ventilators you'd think a few cases would have had samples sent to labs and testing would have revealed something other than the flu.

[iceman]

Surprised no one has mentioned this yet:
https://unofficialnetworks.com/2020/...ns-for-skiing/

Kind of surprising a mountain in California is the first to reopen.

That's kind of wild. 4 guests checked in at 10 minute intervals. So that's 24 per hour if I'm reading that right? Say they're checking in people from 8:00-1:00, that's 120 people on the hill. Hardly seems worth their while.

[evdog]

Baldy is barely worth while to begin with. Not sure you can even fit 2 people on each of their chairs. And its not well known to the masses. With hot weather coming it it will be closed pretty soon regardless.

[Viva]

Surprised no one has mentioned this yet:

Posted in the Skiing sub forum under 2019-2020 So Cal season thread yesterday.

Baldy is barely worth while to begin with.

Bite a dick. Baldy's a fun little place to ski. The place has SoCal soul.

[iceman]

It would make sense that it did spread more than previously thought, but how would doctors not have noticed some unusual cases earlier on? If a % of cases require hospitalization and a % of those cases require ventilators you'd think a few cases would have had samples sent to labs and testing would have revealed something other than the flu.

They didn't have any particular reason to think it wasn't the flu. Why would they suspect something that didn't exist (as far as they knew at the time)? Once it became known that this thing existed, then of course it started being noticed.

[Casey E]

How long can you warehouse taters before they rot?

Cold and dark, a long time. We may all end up being potato eaters after this is over....

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

Holy shit - that propaganda show was one for the books.

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

[Core Shot]

Cold and dark, a long time. We may all end up being potato eaters after this is over....

With a side of long pig?

[huckbucket]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1253448500676898818

We. are. all. going. to. die.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/10...boosts-energy/

Endorse

[LongShortLong]

It would make sense that it did spread more than previously thought, but how would doctors not have noticed some unusual cases earlier on? If a % of cases require hospitalization and a % of those cases require ventilators you'd think a few cases would have had samples sent to labs and testing would have revealed something other than the flu.

The cases present like flu cases, and in Jan/Feb, flu was ramping down from its Dec peak. And there would have been very few COVID cases then.

On Mar 25, one of the dashboards says US had 69,000 positive cases. 69,000 is pretty close to 17 doublings of an original case. Choose your favorite number for how many days to double in pre-lockdown days. E.g. I choose 4. So, maybe the first case was here about 70 (4 x 17) days prior to Mar 25, or mid Jan. 5 days to double would push it back to early Jan.

One month later, mid Feb, 31 days have passed, about 8 doublings (using 4 days to double). 1 doubled 8 times makes about 130 cases. Hospitalization numbers in US are 5%. So, scattered about the country's hospitals are maybe a half dozen cases. Too small to notice.

You can fudge my numbers one way or the other, but you'll still find hardly any hospitalized cases early on. There weren't enough people infected yet. The few cases we had were mostly imported, and testing rules prevented even the observant doctor from verifying an unusual case. To a non-expert observer it looked like whatever Trump was tweeting, only a few cases, well under control, contained to China, etc. Tragically wrong, but it looked that way.

[topwater]

Dumping potatoe

Funny Quayle reference, and a sad reminder of a time where a spelling error could end a political career.

[Benny Profane]

Funny Quayle reference, and a sad reminder of a time where a spelling error could end a political career.

Oh, he was done well before that.

[Viva]

Oh, he was done well before that.

https://www.google.com/search?q=dan+...53CEEqKKdu_3M:

[The SnowShow]

Surprised no one has mentioned this yet:
https://unofficialnetworks.com/2020/...ns-for-skiing/

Kind of surprising a mountain in California is the first to reopen.

I heard Cali beaches are reopening next week?

[snowaddict91]

Thanks Donnie tonight I'm going drink Lysol and stick a flashlight up my ass

A family friend is defending Trump on my uncle's facebook post, said he was "the best president in my lifetime." JFC.

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

JFC, if people don't finally see this as 100% an example of the Dunning Kruger effect, there's no hope for us.

[PNWbrit]

Putting my 401k into tanning bed stock.