Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[Benny Profane]

So would you say that Covid made you question where you live?

Not much. When the dust settles this place will come out on top. It's perfect for the new Zoom world, where parents can get their kids educated well.
Your question is obvious in what you're implying. You're thinking that once the NY metro cools down, we're cool. It's that nasty NY. They deserve it. You're still in the denial stage that you won't soon be scared for your family in a month by just going to shop for food. Good luck, it's coming.

[Bunion 2020]

Went for a 3.5 hour mtn bike ride today. It was windy but mild. Once we got away from the trailhead we saw very few people. Didn't think about this shit for most of the whole time. It was heaven.

[Deebased]

Not much. When the dust settles this place will come out on top. It's perfect for the new Zoom world, where parents can get their kids educated well.
Your question is obvious in what you're implying. You're thinking that once the NY metro cools down, we're cool. It's that nasty NY. They deserve it. You're still in the denial stage that you won't soon be scared for your family in a month by just going to shop for food. Good luck, it's coming.

Is there anyway to short housing in shittsville Connecticut?

[Core Shot]

Not that it matters, and just for the record, phlebotomy is the main treatment for Hemochromosis, a relatively common genetic condition in those of Northern European and Celtic extraction (such as myself). I had 53 phlebotomies in a 4-year period, basically 5 complete blood changes worth. It was kinda arduous but it beat dying. So far, at least.

https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/...ochromatosis#1

I so twisted, all I hear is
Phlebotomy!
Phlebotomy!
Phlebotomy!

[Name Redacted]

Not much. When the dust settles this place will come out on top. It's perfect for the new Zoom world, where parents can get their kids educated well.
Your question is obvious in what you're implying. You're thinking that once the NY metro cools down, we're cool. It's that nasty NY. They deserve it. You're still in the denial stage that you won't soon be scared for your family in a month by just going to shop for food. Good luck, it's coming.

It is obvious that you are living in a much different world than the rest of us. You seem stressed, and focussed on negative outcomes. You aren't able to see things outside your news bubble. I wish you the best

[old goat]

Not that it matters, and just for the record, phlebotomy is the main treatment for Hemochromosis, a relatively common genetic condition in those of Northern European and Celtic extraction (such as myself). I had 53 phlebotomies in a 4-year period, basically 5 complete blood changes worth. It was kinda arduous but it beat dying. So far, at least.

https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/...ochromatosis#1

forgot about that one. Thanks for the reminder. 100 times more common than PRV

[old goat]

I try to be sensitive to your obsessive repulsive disorder but the post didn't extrapolate anything it just reported the report's results along with a Google translation of the summary:

"The minimum overall seroprevalence of 5.5% suggests that on April 17, 2020, approximately 27,000 people were exposed to SARS-CoV-2 in the canton of Geneva."
...
"These first data show a seroprevalence in the population estimated at 3.5% (possible variability from 1.6% to 5.4%) for the first week and 5.5% (possible variability from 3.3% to 7, 7%) for the second."

If you want to guess at some unbounded number or extrapolate into the future without knowing what control measures were put in place that's fine, but that has nothing to do with the original post.



I doubt anyone else cares but on the off chance anyone wants to decipher deeb's babble here's the original link:

https://translate.google.com/transla...on&prev=search

I love it that people are putting numbers to the right of the decimal point about something that could easily be off by an order of magnitude.
Cardinal rule--don't use numbers that give a false impression of precision--use lots of zeros--like the 27,000 figure.

[old goat]

It is obvious that you are living in a much different world than the rest of us. You seem stressed, and focussed on negative outcomes. You aren't able to see things outside your news bubble. I wish you the best

We'll find out within a few months whether you're right or whether he's being realistic. My money is on realistic.

[AK47bp]

It is obvious that you are living in a much different world than the rest of us. You seem stressed, and focussed on negative outcomes. You aren't able to see things outside your news bubble. I wish you the best

Chicken Little Syndrome


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[Name Redacted]

We'll find out within a few months whether you're right or whether he's being realistic. My money is on realistic.

I'm not saying shit isn't going to hit the fan, I'm just not as worried about it and not focussed on it for every second of every day.

[BlatantAlias]

There is way too much politically-driven questioning of complex facts and issues that most people are ill-equipped to comprehend. I'm no scientist or doctor, but I did stay at a Holiday-inn express last night, and for me everything becomes (relatively) simplified when you consider that on March 15th there were 100 deaths in the U.S. One month later we're over 40,000 deaths in the U.S. You can play with numbers and mortality calculations all you want but that's no flu, and we're not done yet. What do you think would be the discussion if say instead of killing people it made them impotent? That would certainly flip the script.

[iceman]

I'm not saying shit isn't going to hit the fan, I'm just not as worried about it and not focussed on it for every second of every day.

He's been alone in his house for 6 weeks watching too much TV, cut him some slack. And he's not necessarily incorrect.

[iceman]

One of the better questions I heard yesterday was, what do you think would have happened if those gun-totin' protesters at state capitals had been black or hispanic?

[Buster Highmen]

One of the better questions I heard yesterday was, what do you think would have happened if those gun-totin' protesters at state capitals had been black or hispanic?

Or, as OG has so succinctly put it, had been Vietnam War protesters.

[Casey E]

Go north west old men, where the skies are blue....

https://www.economist.com/united-sta...article-link-1

"To live and die in Dixie – Covid-19 is spreading to America’s South with unnerving speed"

"According to Mr Wagner, four southern states (Louisiana, Florida, Tennessee and Georgia) had faster growth rates during the first 36 days after their first confirmed cases than Spain or Italy."

"The second reason for the South’s vulnerability is demography. The region contains disproportionate numbers of old, black, Hispanic, uninsured, unhealthy and (a sometimes forgotten group) incarcerated Americans. That is an almost complete litany of susceptibilities to covid-19. In Florida’s Sumter county, home to one of the largest residential complexes for the old (and the fastest-growing metropolitan area in America), the median age is 67, care homes are suffering exponential growth in cases and the county’s death rate from covid-19 is a sky-high 10%. Florida’s governor is mobilising the national guard to boost coronavirus virus testing in care homes. His state is not unique. One in six deaths in Louisiana are in care homes."



Fortunately, I am waaayyyy south, the skies are blue, and the condors are out in force.

[altasnob]

there was a study released in Sweden saying the ratio of confirmed to infected is 1:999. That's almost a thousand people undetected for every one detected. If true 600,000 people in Stockholm will be infected by the end of the month.
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Ya, makes no sense to me either. Here is the quote from Dr. Tegnell, Sweden's chief epidemiologist:

“In major parts of Sweden, around Stockholm, we have reached a plateau (in new cases) and we’re already seeing the effect of herd immunity and in a few weeks’ time we’ll see even more of the effects of that. And in the rest of the country, the situation is stable.”

But he also says the media claiming Sweden was just letting the virus rip was overblown, and they are more or less locked down like the rest of us:

"I think it has been overstated how unique [Sweden's] approach is. As in many other countries, we aim to flatten the curve, slowing down the spread as much as possible — otherwise the health-care system and society are at risk of collapse. What every country is trying to do is to keep people apart, using the measures we have and the traditions we have to implement those measures."

Sweden hasn't locked down as much as say Norway or Denmark did, but they have taken voluntary steps to slow the virus. So how can they think they are starting to reach herd immunity? Currently, there are
1,937 deaths in Sweden and 16,004 confirmed cases for the entire country. Stockholm population approximately 1 million. So you would need 600,000 (or so) infected to be at herd immunity?

[altasnob]

Looks like Sweden withdrew the report saying the ratio of confirmed to infected is 1:999

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidni.../#355a84514349

[skifishbum]

Hey, I'm fine hippie. Better prepared than 90%. And not angry. Almost at acceptance. But I have plenty of food and two road bikes. Good luck in the Wild Wild West.

yippie ki gold plated Winchester 11bravo booya yay

cause luck only goes so far
consider unpluggin a day
I cant believe your thinking the time your spending is healthy

[Core Shot]

yippie ki gold plated Winchester 11bravo booya yay

cause luck only goes so far
consider unpluggin a day
I cant believe your thinking the time your spending is healthy

That is sweet. Plink a few rounds for Gaia

[Deebased]

Yes the tried and true people dying method

I hope it’s your family and not mine



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I hope its nobody's family.

one thing is certain, the vast majority of us are going to get it.

Treatment may or may not be better by the time we do and the disease may or may not be more deadly.

Fortunately each passing day the consensus on the fatality rate gets revised downwards, the # of infected curves upwards as does the % of asymptomatic.

[wooley12]

One of the better questions I heard yesterday was, what do you think would have happened if those gun-totin' protesters at state capitals had been black or hispanic?

Locals are planing a ride this weekend. This posted on the town Political Smack Down FB group. I was thinking of asking if it was open to non citizen neighbors who are stuck inside too.

Esprit Decor. Google points you a home furnishing store in Chesapeak Va

[Bunion 2020]

@ DB, OK but does that change the number who had died and if so, how?

Some nobody wrote this.

on March 15th there were 100 deaths in the U.S. One month later we're over 40,000 deaths in the U.S. You can play with numbers and mortality calculations all you want but that's no flu, and we're not done yet.

Anyone who is not appalled by that is asleep or an idiot.

[Benny Profane]

Is there anyway to short housing in shittsville Connecticut?

Yeah. Move here and put your couch on the porch. You, I mean.

[Casey E]

No idea if this is an actress, but she sure got the ol drawl down right ....

You all listen now, Jacksonville ain´t Miami

https://youtu.be/79Y6OZY3hqI

[Benny Profane]

It is obvious that you are living in a much different world than the rest of us. You seem stressed, and focussed on negative outcomes. You aren't able to see things outside your news bubble. I wish you the best

So tell me what your view of the world is, and vision for the future. Where are you, btw?