Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[bennymac]

I worked in a hospital for 2 years. In my experience 2/3 of the doctors couldn't give a rats ass about the patients or their work. I apologize to doctors who give a shit, but most of them didn't.

That’s really fucked up and sad. In my anecdotal experience I would put it at 1-2% of doctors don’t care about their patients or how good a job they are doing. Not trying to disagree with what you experienced.

[Vt-Freeheel]

Hope y'all got out for some fresh air and exercise today instead of just polyass bickering.

[huckbucket]

That flu cause a cytokine storm in healthy individuals with strong immune systems.

KQ - the paper you linked doesn't support any of the comments I inferred from your statement.

1. The Spanish flu causes a cytokine storm in people
2. The cytokine storm occurs in healthy individuals with strong immune systems
3. The cytokine storm was the cause of death

All that paper says is that 2009 H1N1 causes a cytokine storm in mice and ferrets. They didn't test the Spanish flu directly.

Here's the original paper FYI (https://www.pnas.org/content/111/10/3799)

To be clear, I have seen speculation that cytokine storms may be involved in CV19 and some physicians are using Kevzara (Sarilumab) to try to blunt the inflammation, but nothing has been tested rigorously that I've seen.

[Rideski]

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

farmed shrimp is disgusting.

[Casey E]

Some curves compared, lots of different situations going on out there...

https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...the-rich-world

[Patarero]

Coreshot--> 40k dead from cv19

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[Core Shot]

farmed shrimp is disgusting.

We can all agree on that

[bennymac]

what do they feed farmed shrimp? do I want to know is probably a better question

[frorider]

Pangolins. Allegedly.

[Bunion 2020]

smaller Shrimp.

The country is moving on, this is now normal. There are TV commercials about it. We will re-open and there will be outbreaks and hot-spots and deaths and we will get on with our lives, sort of. It will be the 20s version of the war in the ME or the 60s version of Vietnam. Daily casualty figures with the pro-Business at any cost folks screaming they are fake, overstated or just the cost of getting to Herd Immunity. This will be a vocal minority and the rest of us will just move on.

Got feed the machine ya know.

[Ottime]

what do they feed farmed shrimp? do I want to know is probably a better question

It not what they are fed that is the issue. It is more of living in their own shit, antibiotic, pesticide slurry thing destroying estuaries thing.

[powdork]

It not what they are fed that is the issue. It is more of living in their own shit, antibiotic, pesticide slurry thing destroying estuaries thing.

and it's not indigenous to china. it's farmed species everywhere. they live in close quarters and predators don't ferret out the sick and weak. that includes chickens pigs cows salmon shrimp, etc

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

Why do a ll the OANN "reporters" look like they just came off the pole?

[Benny Profane]

Cytokine storm is now seen as a likely major cause of mortality in the 1918-20 "Spanish flu" -- which killed more than 50 million people worldwide -- and the H1N1 "swine flu" and H5N1 "bird flu" of recent years. ... "That was really the first demonstration that inhibiting the cytokine storm is protective," said Teijaro.Feb 27, 2014

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0227142250.htm

I'm naming my punk rock group Cytokine Storm.

[Rideski]

Isolation Rebels

[Benny Profane]

Fake Fauchis.

[Rideski]

Def Jinping

[TBS]

Why do a ll the OANN "reporters" look like they just came off the pole?

They are putting themselves thru med school by dancing. Reporting is just a side hustle where they can use their medical knowledge during this pandemic

[old goat]

hey Old Goat something I always wondered is why a surgeon scrubs his hands so diligently when he will then put on gloves ?

I used to BC ski with a retired chief of surgery who used to write his schedule out on a pack of Player's ( back then they all smoked ) and tack it over the tub ...died early-ish of cancer

gloves get holes in them. even double gloved.

[Core Shot]

gloves get holes in them. even double gloved.

So in your single days. Did you ever double condom?

[sb]

[Core Shot]

You post Mark Levin on Blaze tv?

Fuck you in your poly ass.

With a splintered two by four.

Jong

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

Your Link

Glenn Beck and anything associated with him can fuck right off.

[old goat]

That makes sense, and I get that it's uncertain. What bothers me is that doesn't change that we are generally told contradictory things; if we need to disinfect surfaces like mad, then why not our groceries and food? Telling people that they can't eat is not an option, obviously, and we want food businesses to stay in business, but I hate being told "oh, that sandwich from the sandwich shop is fine" while at the same time being told to disinfect my shopping cart before touching it.



I use gloves not as a way of having my hands be safer, but as a way of having a pealable layer of skin, so to speak. So I wear the gloves into a store, and when I get out of the store, I carefully take them off and onto the floor of my car, and my hands are "clean".

I reuse the gloves after they sit for a few days, FWIW, and I sure as fuck don;t toss them on the ground.

Using gloves the way you use them, to protect yourself as an alternative to washing or sanitizing, makes sense. What doesn't make sense is for someone serving the public, stocking shelves, etc to use them as a means of protecting the public. Handwashing or sanitizing between customers for someone serving the public, frequently for someone not directly serving the public.