Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

[Jax]

Sorry if this has been posted already, this thread it too freaking fast. But, it bears worth repeating if it has.. doesn't look like any photoshop here. wtf

[Core Shot]

Polyass time

[riser4]

Got word this morning of a friend who died.

Sorry to hear KQ.

[KQ]

I don't understand, why do they get to have a graduation ceremony? And furthermore... why are people allowed to be on the beach and congregate on capital steps with their guns and yet funerals are not allowed?

[KQ]

Sorry to hear KQ.

Kind of you. Thanks.

[mcski]

I don't understand, why do they get to have a graduation ceremony? And furthermore... why are people allowed to be on the beach and congregate on capital steps with their guns and yet funerals are not allowed?

Cadets are just pawns and not the ones making that choice

[ron johnson]

Are you saying that we should go back to almost totally unregulated markets and banking? Because that worked out real well ten years later.

That's not what I was saying, but yes, I think that would be a huge improvement. Banks don't need regulation if you remove the FDIC and Fed backstop. The threat of failure is a greater incentive to maintain sound business practices than the endless regulations that already exist in the financial industry (and how well has that worked?).

The idea that deregulation caused the financial crisis is a total myth. I guess you are referring to the repeal of Glass-Steagall, which had nothing to do with the financial crisis. Only two sections of Glass-Steagall were repealed, none of which had any bearing on what happened in the financial crisis. Even Obama will tell you so: "I pushed my economic team very hard on some of those questions. But there is not evidence that having Glass-Steagall in place would somehow change the dynamic." https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...sponse-241397/

[old goat]

I don't understand, why do they get to have a graduation ceremony? And furthermore... why are people allowed to be on the beach and congregate on capital steps with their guns and yet funerals are not allowed?

Probably because that's the farthest apart they'll be from each other for the next four years or more. Besides being shot at, crashing planes, etc. 1918 showed us that the military is a perfect place for a pandemic, in case we forgot from the Civil War.

[Core Shot]

I swear this wasn’t me.
I don’t have a lead pipe in my car

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coro...-wawa/2374576/

[Rideski]

• Dr William Hanage is a professor of the evolution and epidemiology of infectious disease at Harvard

Opinion: this is the top of the iceberg.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...virus-pandemic

[The SnowShow]

IHME model on when it's safe to start lifting restrictions in each state, from the Seattle Times.

So Texas and Florida are going to ignore this and open this week. You first!

[Benny Profane]

I don't understand, why do they get to have a graduation ceremony? And furthermore... why are people allowed to be on the beach and congregate on capital steps with their guns and yet funerals are not allowed?

Creepy how they look like tombstones from a distance.

We're they still having classes? We're they still in dorms?

[Benny Profane]

Polyass time

How can you possibly separate the science from the politics at this point?

[Core Shot]

How can you possibly separate the science from the politics at this point?

I always wondered what Political Science was

[uglymoney]

Where was someone talking about 1918? My grandma's dad Rudy was on a troop transport to Yurp. He talked about all the new dead every single day of that transatlantic voyage. He lived a long life though. Still remember his funeral when I was a kid...full flyover and canons blasting.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2862337/

Also this...the situation at Iowa meat packing plants is dire. Workers rights non existant. Tysons suspended punishing workers for calling in sick...as if that is going to overcome years of coercion and the fact these folks have to work to make ends meet. Then half the employees in Waterloo have to go to the free peoples clinic to even see a doctor. Lolz at these assholes. We reap what we sew. The conditions for this to happen is the culmination of many years of Republicans giving power to employers and taking it from workers.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...es/5155905002/


"I don’t think Tyson gives two (expletive) about who is filling one particular spot on the production floor that day. I think they are purely concerned about productivity at that plant. Period," the Black Hawk County sheriff said.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...ds/5151840002/




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[Core Shot]

Small sample size of 200
But a third had antibodies

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ntibodies.html

[Bunion 2020]

"I don’t think Tyson gives two (expletive) about who is filling one particular spot on the production floor that day. I think they are purely concerned about productivity at that plant. Period," the Black Hawk County sheriff said.

^^^ Fucked up.

I would pay a dollar or two more for Chicken if I was certain it wasn't full of Rat flu.

[skiballs]

[Core Shot]

30 to 50% antibodies in Chicago testing
https://www.dailywire.com/news/early...es-report-says

Half of U.K. has antibodies?
https://reason.com/2020/03/25/half-o...-oxford-model/

[uglymoney]

^^^ Fucked up.

I would pay a dollar or two more for Chicken if I was certain it wasn't full of Rat flu.

Absolutely. When are we going to get to the point in this country where we decide we aren't going to shit all over our "essential" workers? And all of these workers do not live in some kind of a bubble. This impacts everyone.

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[iceman]

30 to 50% antibodies in Chicago testing
https://www.dailywire.com/news/early...es-report-says

Half of U.K. has antibodies?
https://reason.com/2020/03/25/half-o...-oxford-model/

Serious selection bias on the chicago results make that data completely useless for modeling, unless, like in
the Oxford model, you don't use any data to make your bullshit model. If they just raise their susceptibility index to 1.5 (which is just as likely as the numbers they picked out of a hat), then everybody has had it already and it's over! Let's use that one, okay?

I've felt for a while that it's likely both more transmissible and less deadly than advertised but these two studies (I use the term "studies" loosely) do nothing to bolster that case.

[gravitylover]

So what's the real deal with antibody testing and such? If a person has had the disease and developed the antibodies are they actually immune or is that just theory based on that's the way it is with some other viruses? Will it be chronic like some others?

[iceman]

They don't know for sure yet. The general feeling is that antibodies will confer immunity but there are some instances that seem to point the other way. But because of the slow mutation of the virus, if it antibodies do confer immunity it should be long- lasting immunity. In theory.

[Core Shot]

Serious selection bias on the chicago results make that data completely useless for modeling, unless, like in
the Oxford model, you don't use any data to make your bullshit model. If they just raise their susceptibility index to 1.5 (which is just as likely as the numbers they picked out of a hat), then everybody has had it already and it's over! Let's use that one, okay?

I've felt for a while that it's more transmissible and less deadly than advertised but these two studies (I use the term "studies" loosely) do nothing to bolster that case.

True.
But the Chelsea was random people in the street.
Testing by mass general. Legit.

But 200is a small sample size.

Test results in minutes. That was cool to hear.

[iceman]

I swear this wasn’t me.
I don’t have a lead pipe in my car

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coro...-wawa/2374576/

You sure it's not you? Looks like you.