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Thread: Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Ill bet you watched NY get hammered and thought, can't happen here. That's OK, many millions are saying the same thing. so, goodbye Dallas, goodbye Casper
    But Casper is already a ghost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiCougar View Post
    over a pandemic that has a fatality rate of one thousandth of a percent
    He skougs, he scores!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinFromSA View Post
    Gotta love all the boomers who keep saying "keep it all shut down" while still drawing their nice little retirement checks. While younger folks like me lost their damn job due to COVID, and now can't get a new job thanks to COVID keeping everyone shut down. I was literally being processed by HR to get a menial position at a new job when they got shut down too. Not sure how we're gonna survive, and no the little stimulus checks aren't going to cut it. Been trying like hell (unsuccessfully) to get on unemployment so don't go there.

    I say open it back up, but carefully. You boomers just go back to quarantining yourselves if you're so scared and STFU while the rest of us get our asses back to work. I am DESPERATE to work again. Screw this shut down bullcrap. It should be individual's choice whether to take that risk. If you're truly scared, then hole up and go away.

    SO easy for all the old folks to scream up from their high horses about everyone's safety while enjoying steady retirement income. Generational warfare's about to get real.
    What makes you think that if they "open it up" things will just go back to normal. We have essential business--like meat packing plants shutting down now because of too many workers getting sick. We are losing health care workers--how long before they start walking off the job when the cases spike after we end stay at home. There will still be a severe recession, if not depression, and you'll still be out of work, but with a higher chance of getting sick.
    How about if we competently manage the safety net--the unemployment checks and small business forgiveable loans that people still can't get.

    But congratulations on expressing the true spirit of America--I want mine and fuck everyone else.

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    They could make a softball team and call it the
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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    But congratulations on expressing the true spirit of America--I want to be a wage slave who is bamboozled into deriving my self worth from being exploited.
    FIFY

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiCougar View Post
    "CDC estimates that up to 42.9 million people got sick during the 2018-2019 flu season, 647,000 people were hospitalized and 61,200 died."

    we have put a recession and probably depression in the coming for likely less covid hospitalizations and maybe covid deaths.
    You do understand just how much more contagious CV-19 is over that flu right? Keep everything open and you could easily expect 5X plus those above numbers. If Sweden is still open, just watch what happens to them.
    Never in U.S. history has the public chosen leadership this malevolent. The moral clarity of their decision is crystalline, particularly knowing how Trump will regard his slim margin as a “mandate” to do his worst. We’ve learned something about America that we didn’t know, or perhaps didn’t believe, and it’ll forever color our individual judgments of who and what we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    What makes you think that if they "open it up" things will just go back to normal. We have essential business--like meat packing plants shutting down now because of too many workers getting sick. We are losing health care workers--how long before they start walking off the job when the cases spike after we end stay at home. There will still be a severe recession, if not depression, and you'll still be out of work, but with a higher chance of getting sick.
    How about if we competently manage the safety net--the unemployment checks and small business forgiveable loans that people still can't get.

    But congratulations on expressing the true spirit of America--I want mine and fuck everyone else.
    there’s no reason to think that things will immediately return to normal, it’s more an emotional cry at this point.

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    Here you go Austin Sckougars, contact the families of all of these people, and I’ll send you each $37. I bet some other mags will chip in too. Could prolly get a couple grand out of the deal.


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    Thank you

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    anecdotally most of the people I see ignoring the stay at home idea are people in their 50s and 60s and early 70s - you know the ones going to big church services and going to the grocery store every other day because they need to make something special cause it's easter.

    In this age group the fatality rate for covid is high - feel free to say "yeah well Freedom to make your own risk assesment!" But these shitforbrains people, when some of them get sick, are gonna overburden the healthcare system with their demands for all measures - plus then they also put the healthcare workers looking after their dumb asses at risk

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiCougar View Post
    um, the rich can sit it out; those building assets, savings or businesses crossing from middle class to rich are the ones going to be decimated and many will not get the chance again to build up to where they were in January over a pandemic that has a fatality rate of one thousandth of a percent.

    "CDC estimates that up to 42.9 million people got sick during the 2018-2019 flu season, 647,000 people were hospitalized and 61,200 died."

    https://time.com/5610878/2018-2019-flu-season/

    we have put a recession and probably depression in the coming for likely less covid hospitalizations and maybe covid deaths.
    This is innumerate nonsense. You're making an apples to oranges comparison. You're not comparing daily death rates, population susceptibility, CFR, IFR, in areas where both diseases are prominent. Instead, you're comparing annual flu season deaths where the diseases exists everywhere versus a few weeks of COVID-19 in which the disease is not as deeply embedded in the population.

    A more apples to apples comparison looks a lot different:

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinFromSA View Post
    Gotta love all the boomers who keep saying "keep it all shut down" while still drawing their nice little retirement checks. While younger folks like me lost their damn job due to COVID, and now can't get a new job thanks to COVID keeping everyone shut down. I was literally being processed by HR to get a menial position at a new job when they got shut down too. Not sure how we're gonna survive, and no the little stimulus checks aren't going to cut it. Been trying like hell (unsuccessfully) to get on unemployment so don't go there.

    I say open it back up, but carefully. You boomers just go back to quarantining yourselves if you're so scared and STFU while the rest of us get our asses back to work. I am DESPERATE to work again. Screw this shut down bullcrap. It should be individual's choice whether to take that risk. If you're truly scared, then hole up and go away.

    SO easy for all the old folks to scream up from their high horses about everyone's safety while enjoying steady retirement income. Generational warfare's about to get real.
    yeah trump was worried about the economy and didnt understand Covid either

    and so those 15 people that had the flu ended up > 27000 dead cuz one person with covid infects a bunch of other its exponential math or some fucking thing and BTW Covid is killing young as well as the old

    I'm really sorry for working hard and retiring early when all you college boys were busy balling frat girls
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mofro261 View Post
    Ok, this paper is heavy on the speculation without any sort of hard data to back it up,

    Wambier CG, Goren A, SARS-COV-2 infection is likely to be androgen mediated, Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology (2020), doi: https://doi.org/10.1016/ j.jaad.2020.04.032.

    Attachment 325310

    but their artwork is amazing.

    Link is broken.

    https://www.jaad.org/article/S0190-9622(20)30608-3/pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    I'm really sorry for working hard and retiring early when all you college boys were busy balling frat girls
    I wouldn't trade your early retirement for my memories of frat girls balled

    also; what the fuck does that have to do with anything?? or just felt like throwing yet another brag about your early retirement in somehow and (clearly) don't need a segue to do so?

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    Pics or it didn't happen.

    They had girls in your Frat? Or you were just very drunk? NTTAWWT
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

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    Balling frat girls? NTTAWWT. However, I prefer sorority girls. Or even fat girls. Because, well, look up what fraternity means. Not my thing. You guys can carry on though.

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    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

    "Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"

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    I find it interesting, that a ski website that holds risk takers and rebels in high esteem, to have a large contingent of people that seem to be willing to follow the herd. I understand that doing so is considered for the greater good. It just seems that there are many vocal posters that like to shout down anyone that disagrees with their position. I appreciate posters such as buster, that may disagree with another’s point of view, but don’t need to castigate them personally.

    I reserve the right to yank bunny’s chain at will, he loves it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AdironRider View Post
    Why does opening the country mean not treating people that catch the virus?
    Not enough healthcare. Without care, people die. 6% need a vent, byebye. 16% need a hospital, some of them die too.

    For people yapping about loosening restrictions:
    Nothing has changed about the virus and its hazards. It remains capable of doubling every couple days, and there remains about a 2 week lag between infection and detection. That means by the time we notice an uptick in cases, the actual uptick can easily be 20x larger (4+ doublings). The uptick before successful reimplementation of lockdown would be yet higher.

    If an area has 5% covid healthcare utilization (95% unused capacity), and there's surplus doctors, nurses, PPE, tests, etc., not needed elsewhere, then opening up can be considered. Currently all healthcare resources are shortage or high demand.

    We need a combination of massive excess treatment capacity and knowledge of which activities contribute least to spread. Once these are in place, we can choose to allow some of the least spreading activities. As time passes, our treatment ability may increase, as well as our ability to perform activities with minimal spread.

    In the short run, suppressing the current case load is the quickest way to generate excess treatment capacity. As case load falls, testing will be able to keep up. A big expansion in contact tracing, isolation, and quarantine appears to moderate spread as well; this is also easier with fewer cases. It remains my opinion we should aim for near total suppression, ala China and South Korea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Joe View Post
    I wouldn't trade your early retirement for my memories of frat girls balled

    also; what the fuck does that have to do with anything?? or just felt like throwing yet another brag about your early retirement in somehow and (clearly) don't need a segue to do so?
    Definitely the second part. I'm just surprised he hasn't worked some anecdote about someone he knows/is friends with. It's a pretty dead horse at this point.

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    That ain't his chain you are yankin.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

    "Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiballs View Post
    I find it interesting, that a ski website that holds risk takers and rebels in high esteem, to have a large contingent of people that seem to be willing to follow the herd. I understand that doing so is considered for the greater good. It just seems that there are many vocal posters that like to shout down anyone that disagrees with their position. I appreciate posters such as buster, that may disagree with another’s point of view, but don’t need to castigate them personally.

    I reserve the right to yank bunny’s chain at will, he loves it.


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    The big difference between risk takers and the social distancing gr00viness is that risk takers generally only expose themselves. Not so in the current status. Big difference: avalanches aren't contagious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiballs View Post
    I find it interesting, that a ski website that holds risk takers and rebels in high esteem, to have a large contingent of people that seem to be willing to follow the herd. I understand that doing so is considered for the greater good. It just seems that there are many vocal posters that like to shout down anyone that disagrees with their position. I appreciate posters such as buster, that may disagree with another’s point of view, but don’t need to castigate them personally.

    I reserve the right to yank bunny’s chain at will, he loves it.


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    This website is largely populated by rich, over-the-hill ski tourists, and those with more money than time to dedicate to their hobbies, not skiers. Just take a look at the quiver pic thread.

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    Whatever - you morans both know what was meant I was just quoting XXXer

    My school didn't have frats or soroities for the record...

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser3 View Post
    Balling frat girls? NTTAWWT. However, I prefer sorority girls. Or even fat girls. Because, well, look up what fraternity means. Not my thing. You guys can carry on though.


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