Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

**Art Shirk** · 03-24-2020, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by iceman

x2

How's Art Shirk doing? He thought he had it but that's the last I can recall about him.

Thanks for asking, ice. As Danno said, doing ok but fighting this thing still. I’m not totally convinced I have it, but mainly only because I don’t seem to have any sort of fever (never checked but don’t feel feverish). Sore throat subsided and came back. Super dehydrated and feels like a dry head and chest cold now for 1.5 weeks. Headache. Super manageable compared to others.

Best wishes nutmeg. I must have missed it but did you actually get a test?

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**Buster Highmen** · 03-24-2020, 04:21 PM

I've read a couple of notes on Vit D having an impact on not only infection, bit symptoms as well.
Valid? Debunked?

ATB Art.

**Cono Este** · 03-24-2020, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by MultiVerse

Part of the early discussion was about how transmissibility estimates are not set in stone. How an effective infection control intervention along with people themselves adopting risk reducing behavior can get this under control even in the absence of antiviral drugs or vaccines.

Both the US and South Korea had their first diagnosed case within 24 hours back in January but SK managed to flatten the curve (03/24 9,000 cases 120 deaths). By Friday the US will reach 100,000 COVID-19 cases and approach 1000 deaths. Our doubling rates and death rates are now the fastest for the world.

It's a massive U.S. government failure.

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If a bunch of burnt out skiers can get concerned, if Summit is on point from day 1, then what the fuck were the people paid doing? And yes, the President, but what about every one else in the chain of command? People paid six figures, with parking spaces at hospitals? County health commissions? Governors? Mayors, FEMA etc.

Meanwhile Wooley is watching Asians buying up all the masks.

Truly unbelievable. I won’t get in the way of anyone bashing Trump. But what happened to all those other assholes with name plates on their doors and pensions.

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**rideit** · 03-24-2020, 04:22 PM

At least Fauci wasn’t eliminated.

**nutmegchoi** · 03-24-2020, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Art Shirk

Thanks for asking, ice. As Danno said, doing ok but fighting this thing still. I’m not totally convinced I have it, but mainly only because I don’t seem to have any sort of fever (never checked but don’t feel feverish). Sore throat subsided and came back. Super dehydrated and feels like a dry head and chest cold now for 1.5 weeks. Headache. Super manageable compared to others.

Best wishes nutmeg. I must have missed it but did you actually get a test?

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Yes, I have.
Boyfriend felt ill first and we got tested at ER.
Waited 6 days to hear the results and both came out positive.
I felt ill a day after the test.

**Cono Este** · 03-24-2020, 04:24 PM

Listening to Fauci, we need to blow the bridges. People need a no travel ban in NYC. And maybe other cities.

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**Rideski** · 03-24-2020, 04:26 PM

Trump fired several of them. I posted about the American embedded in China watch bog on the previous page.

**stuckathuntermtn** · 03-24-2020, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by nutmegchoi

Yes, I have.
Boyfriend felt ill first and we got tested at ER.
Waited 6 days to hear the results and both came out positive.
I felt ill a day after the test.

You guys are ok though, right?
Just a mild cough?

**Art Shirk** · 03-24-2020, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by nutmegchoi

Yes, I have.
Boyfriend felt ill first and we got tested at ER.
Waited 6 days to hear the results and both came out positive.
I felt ill a day after the test.

Well I’m glad you are on the radar and really hoping you are in the mend.

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**nutmegchoi** · 03-24-2020, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn

You guys are ok though, right?
Just a mild cough?

No, we are going through with full blown symptoms.
Pretty much everything but chest pain and trouble breathing.
Been sick close to two weeks.
Hoping things will turn around this weekend.

**gravitylover** · 03-24-2020, 04:35 PM

Wow. We just got a delivery from a local takeout spot and there was a roll of TP in the bag! FKNA yeah

**nutmegchoi** · 03-24-2020, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Art Shirk

Well I’m glad you are on the radar and really hoping you are in the mend.

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Thank you.
You take care of yourself as well.
Are you self quarantined?

**gravitylover** · 03-24-2020, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by nutmegchoi

No, we are going through with full blown symptoms.
Pretty much everything but chest pain and trouble breathing.
Been sick close to two weeks.
Hoping things will turn around this weekend.

Oh man, I wish there was something I could do. Lemme know...

**nutmegchoi** · 03-24-2020, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by gravitylover

Oh man, I wish there was something I could do. Lemme know...

You can give me that toilet paper.

**skaredshtles** · 03-24-2020, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by nutmegchoi

You can give me that toilet paper.

I lol'd.

**gretch6364** · 03-24-2020, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by nutmegchoi

Some mags want to know if I’m still alive, so here’s a status report.

Self quarantine day 11.
COVID-19 day 10.

Didn’t sleep well last night and woke up with sweats.
Temperature was slightly up to 99.7F, so took two Tylenols to bring down a degree.
Started working at 8:30am, got tired so took a nap during lunch break around noon.
Can’t smell and don’t have appetite but force to eat some soup and two slices of bread.
Boyfriend lost 17lbs in two weeks and I’m 7lbs down.
The toll on our bodies will take some weeks and months to recover.

Will report back some days later.

Glad to hear you guys are staying strong.

Have talked to a couple people with it, so far it has been mild for all of them...luckily.

Ran to the grocery store this afternoon. Good amount of TP and Paper towels available here. Still no clorox wipes, very little soap, and absolutely still no chicken or beef. Ground turkey, pork and bison is still available, along with all the breakfast sausage and bacon you could want. Pasta supplies are strong again.

The store had limitations on TP, paper towels and meat. I am still not sure I get the hording of the chicken breast and beef. Chasing that trophy bull in NM last fall and passing on the satellite bulls is hurting right now.

**Cono Este** · 03-24-2020, 04:43 PM

Is the fucking subway still running in NYC?

Edit. They are! Wtf morons.

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**MultiVerse** · 03-24-2020, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Meathelmet

Wondering if the possible mutation could also affect the lethality of the virus as well?

Mofro, Huckbucket, and all the other mags with expertise are better qualified to answer but in a nutshell a virus mutates due to natural selection and predicting evolution is hard. But as long as long our immune system can recognize enough of a mutated virus (maybe 50% similarity?) then we should develop herd immunity.

The main thing is we want to stop the evolutionary process either through containment or with a vaccine. And, FWIW, tests reinfecting primates with COVID-19 indicate we do develop immunity.

When it comes to lethality, the two main mutations we care about are virulence and transmissibility. Virulence is the amount of damage a virus does to its host. The reason why SARS-CoV-2 is spreading whereas SARS was stopped is SARS killed its host too quickly. So if anything, although anything could happen, the virus will evolve to be more transmissible and less virulent—but will likely remain roughly, in effect, as it is now at least in the short term.

**Adolf Allerbush** · 03-24-2020, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Cono Este

Is the fucking subway still running in NYC?

Edit. They are! Wtf morons.

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didn't you get the memo, Trump wants everyone to go back to work...how they gonna get there yo!

**The AD** · 03-24-2020, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Cono Este

Listening to Fauci, we need to blow the bridges. People need a no travel ban in NYC. And maybe other cities.

**Flyoverland Captive** · 03-24-2020, 04:48 PM

Mutation rates may not be a concern.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...spond-to-a?amp

**gretch6364** · 03-24-2020, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Cono Este

Is the fucking subway still running in NYC?

Edit. They are! Wtf morons.

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Careful...don't want to criticize the decision makes in NY. You will get roasted here for dissing peoples hood.

**Cono Este** · 03-24-2020, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

didn't you get the memo, Trump wants everyone to go back to work...how they gonna get there yo!

What would the Wuhan city council say about that idea?

I’ve got to listen to Cuomo beg for all our medical supplies, and they have not shut down a filthy subway yet?

Complete morons, hall of fame morons.

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**Danno** · 03-24-2020, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Cono Este

Is the fucking subway still running in NYC?

Edit. They are! Wtf morons.

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I get where you're coming from, but what happens if they shut them down? You do realize that all the workers for all the essential things rely on the subway, right? And I'm not just talking doctors and nurses (though it holds true there too) but all the grocery store workers, pharmacy workers, etc. No subway and EVERYTHING comes to a grinding halt, and not just in the "slow the spread" good way.

It's a very tough call, it's certainly not a "wtf morons" decision.