Nokian LT2, unstudded. End of story.
I just got the Hankooks so can't really comment on their performance yet (they seem fine, and did really well during the 4 wheeling on the White Rim, but haven't seen snow yet). They were really affordable compared to some of the other options, and have the winter snowflake, FWIW.
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I had those for a year on a 4Runner, they are great for the money. Never really pushed them in deep snow (shitty winter last year) and didn't spend a lot of time on snow either, but they were predictable when on snow. I got the 4?ply version which is much lighter, much quieter. I think Wicked Sick recommended them, he has a ton of miles on the 4ply version I think.
Thanks, I will have to check that out.ForSCAN
Anyone have experience with Cooper Discoverer A/TWs?
Nokians it sounds like are the right call. Thanks Gunder.
I think somewhere higher up in this thread I posted about liking the Cooper Discoverer ATPs on my camper/winter beater truck. I'm revising my opinion. They did pretty well in snow for the first year, but noticeably worse the following year with deeper snow -- and it wasn't due to racking up a bunch of miles. This truck only sees 2000-3000 miles in a year.
I think it's a combination of a couple factors -- longbed pickup (shitty weight distribution) with open bed in winter, and hard rubber compound. The tires are wearing fairly evenly, and durable so far. The truck sees a lot of dirt roads and light 4WD use with a heavy load (camper) in the summer months, and the tread isn't chunking. FWIW, mine are E-rated tires.
They came on a F150 that I bought last year, C rated. They were fine in the summer, but once the snow was on the ground they had very little grip, like had to put my truck into 4wd to get out of my pretty flat driveway. Switched to BFG's and it was like night and day difference. Plus the BFG's look better, especially on a LC.
I bet shredgnar actually had AT3s? I think ATWs do well in the snow, even after some wear.
That said, BW, how were they almost double the cost of KO2s? Costco had KO2s for cheaper than I bought the ATWs (through Big O) four years ago. Only went with the ATWs because the 4R is my wife's DD and they look "less aggressive."
When we replace next year, we're probably going with KO2s because she can get the tires done while shopping.
Lol. U calling me out?![]()
I don’t shop Costco. It’s almost 2hrs round trip drive from my house. If I remember correctly, the BFG available near my size were 10 ply and the cooper were 4 ply, which were cheaper than the 10 ply of the same size. The retail on the cooper, back then at least, were all cheaper than the bfg, and cooper had a rebate. Add some exaggeration, and the bfg were twice the cost.
Les Schwab’s is ordering a set of Nokian LT2s un-studded for me. Thanks for all the insights on this thread.
I went with non studded knowing I will still needing winter tires well after the April 15th cutoff for studs in Oregon.
Timely thread.
Looking for new tires on 4Runner.
Replacing Cooper AT3. Had good luck. Even tread wear over 60k or so. 70/30 onroad vs off.
One complaint was light snow / compact snow/ice. Not expecting miracle for a semi aggressive tread in this department.
Sounds like Duratrac may improve in this department but maybe some faster wear?
Is general consensus here that the dura is a better buy?
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