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    Quote Originally Posted by pfluffenmeister View Post
    Hey Funky,

    Are the SGs different enough from the Lhasa Fats to warrant owning both?
    I wanted to join the group buy, but had reverse elephantitis of the wallet.
    What flex did you ski? (I'm a fly weight @ ~145#, but strong like bull!; standard flex for me if get the SGoat).
    Yes. I skied the Stiffs. They ski differently. You know how I love the Lhasa Fat but the SG is a different animal. It eats cut up vert way better. It's just so heavy and damp compared to the Fat. The Lhasa has more pop and is more playful, can't believe I used playful as they crave speed and the fall line, where the SG just wants to rage down the fall line making huge arcs with no fuss. The Fat however seemed looser at speed when needed. That may be just that my Fats don't have the sharpest of edges and the SG were real fresh. A stock flex SG may have more of the characteristics of the Fat vs the Stiff SG. The SG pivots easier at slow speeds due to the tail rocker and true pintail as where the Fat needs speed to release the tail and is a semi pin.
    The SG in my mind is a direct replacement for the Fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    ... haul ballz, set the edge, pour a cup of tea and enjoy it without spilling a drop through cut up snow...

    This should be added to the SGs official description IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    You can literally be hauling ballz, set the edge, pour a cup of tea and enjoy it without spilling a drop though cut up snow.
    Don't know if it's the skis or you that's more impressive. You really ski with a teapot and cup for a spot of tea while you're skiing?

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    He does. Earl Grey with a drop of vanilla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    He does. Earl Grey with a drop of vanilla.
    I prefer the double bergamot Earl Grey with some demerara and a splash of cream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    Don't know if it's the skis or you that's more impressive. You really ski with a teapot and cup for a spot of tea while you're skiing?
    Doesn't everyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    Doesn't everyone?
    I normally eat lunch while carving.

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    Last spring there was a bunch of old time Mission locals at Midway partying, they closed the lodge and they wanted to continue the party down at the base. Uncle Vonn grabs a pitcher of beer that's like 2/3 full and takes off down Mimi. He's doing ski ballet moves and drinking out of the pitcher all the way down. Dudes like 70.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchool1080s View Post
    What bsl are you? I have 191 wrens and 191 BGs... both 10/11-11/12 era... maybe swap out a run or 2? I’m a 317 fks


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    Ahh, I’m a 326 with Look pivots. I’m not sure if the heel has that much adjustment? I’d certainly be willing to let you take a couple laps on them if it would work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    It's just so heavy.
    Could you tell us just how heavy it was?

    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    He does. Earl Grey with a drop of vanilla with his pinky in the air for extra flair.
    FIFY
    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    I prefer the double bergamot Earl Grey with some demerara and a splash of cream.
    Cream in Early Grey??? You heathen!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopi_Red View Post
    Could you tell us just how heavy it was?



    FIFY

    Cream in Early Grey??? You heathen!!!
    I believe I did. Every. Lift. Ride.

    Always fly pinky high. I'm no Neanderthal.

    That's appalling. (((Thrusts nose into air)))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopi_Red View Post
    Cream in Early Grey??? You heathen!!!
    It's the Irish in me, I don't like milk in my tea.

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    This just in;
    SUPERGOAT!!!!!!!!!!

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    Elaborate

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    SuperGoat PSA - ON3P Limited Run

    Just sayin....

    You would dig them.

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    I know I would, fkna. It took great restraint this fall to not purchase a set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    Just sayin....

    You would dig them.
    I'm not convinced they are any more super than the 189/191. Need to try a pair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    I'm not convinced they are any more super than the 189/191. Need to try a pair.
    That might cut into the landcruiser fund

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    Quote Originally Posted by NW_SKIER View Post
    That might cut into the landcruiser fund
    Well considering the 191s are worth $5000, I think I could sell my pair and get supergoats easily, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    I'm not convinced they are any more super than the 189/191. Need to try a pair.
    Since I haven't skied those I have no idea. The stiff SG is quite the ski though. If it's used in an area that has more bumps than I would do a stock flex. The stiff is, well, umm, stiff. Not super demanding though due to the shape. The stiff crushes vert.
    It would be interesting to do a 191vsSG. The 189 in my eyes is a different ski due to lack of width and length compared to SG. Not positive as I haven't skied it though. Just looking and fondeling the SG, it skied just as I expected it to. You should have come to Idaho last weekend. We could have had the most epic Tgr demo day.

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    SuperGoat PSA - ON3P Limited Run

    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    I'm not convinced they are any more super than the 189/191. Need to try a pair.
    Oh man. They rip. If by super you mean faster, then yes, they are definitely more super. The new shape also hooks up on groomers, or smoother off- piste terrain well too, whereas the older BG was meh on anything slightly packed, IMO. I have 3 days on them, and so far they feel significantly faster and edgier, but worse in deep moguls/trees.

    If by super you mean grin-inducing, I think that all post-2012 BG’s give you maximum grin factor in powder and soft chop. Each version just has a slightly different flavor.

    My last day on them, everything off-piste was bumped to shit, with in between soft/refrozen cruddy pow. The SG’s were mega-work. The bumps were getting deep valleys, and it was hard to pick up speed because the moguls were poorly formed. SGs were more work than 191 Wrens in deep bumps in that type of snow. They work very well in smaller bumps, but as they get deeper valleys, and the less uniform they get, the SGs are very tiring. My legs were pumped after 3 hours. The 189 BGs from last years are much, much more forgiving in deep cruddy bumps.

    On wide open terrain/smoother conditions, SG’s are on a different level. The more I ski them, the more I feel that trait. Speed level is up there with 191 Monsters and 196 Governors.

    My only (very minor)complaint with them is that when driving them at higher edge angles, that asym outside edge does start to turn against the fall line a little. But who even buys an RES ski to hit high edge angles?? That only comes from the fact that they hold a much better edge than previous BG’s though, which allows you to hit those higher angles, so that point is moot. Stand a little more centered, and that trait pretty much goes away (thanks for that tip PowTron!) The Asym isn’t nearly as noticeable as it was on my skinny Quixotes, which turned against the fall line even at lower edge angles and with either a centered or forward stance.. IMO, asym is best suited for skis over 115mm underfoot.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    Oh man. They rip. If by super you mean faster, then yes, they are definitely more super. The new shape also hooks up on groomers, or smoother off- piste terrain well too, whereas the older BG was meh on anything slightly packed, IMO. I have 3 days on them, and so far they feel significantly faster and edgier, but worse in deep moguls/trees.

    If by super you mean grin-inducing, I think that all post-2012 BG’s give you maximum grin factor in powder and soft chop. Each version just has a slightly different flavor.

    My last day on them, everything off-piste was bumped to shit, with in between soft/refrozen cruddy pow. The SG’s were mega-work. The bumps were getting deep valleys, and it was hard to pick up speed because the moguls were poorly formed. SGs were more work than 191 Wrens in deep bumps in that type of snow. They work very well in smaller bumps, but as they get deeper valleys, and the less uniform they get, the SGs are very tiring. My legs were pumped after 3 hours. The 189 BGs from last years are much, much more forgiving in deep cruddy bumps.

    On wide open terrain/smoother conditions, SG’s are on a different level. The more I ski them, the more I feel that trait. Speed level is up there with 191 Monsters and 196 Governors.

    My only (very minor)complaint with them is that when driving them at higher edge angles, that asym outside edge does start to turn against the fall line a little. But who even buys an RES ski to hit high edge angles?? That only comes from the fact that they hold a much better edge than previous BG’s though, which allows you to hit those higher angles, so that point is moot. Stand a little more centered, and that trait pretty much goes away (thanks for that tip PowTron!) The Asym isn’t nearly as noticeable as it was on my skinny Quixotes, which turned against the fall line even at lower edge angles and with either a centered or forward stance.. IMO, asym is best suited for skis over 115mm underfoot.






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    Are you like a pro, bro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    Are you like a pro, bro?
    don't mind him the unicorn, he has goat envy.

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    SuperGoat PSA - ON3P Limited Run

    A little SG Stoke. I have given up on seeing the new cast bindings this year and picked up some second hand P18s. Part way through mounting them, but figured the roommates might not appreciate the air compressor running at midnight to blow out the holes.

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    This means there are some skis on the Chopping Block
    2012 C&D 193 Rossi FKS 140 WTR on Cast SI&I, with BD Ultralight climbing skins
    2016 Wren 112 186 Look Pivot14 WTR on Cast SI&I, with BD Ultralight climbing skins

    Edit: adding Link
    http://<br /> https://www.tetongravi...d.php?t=317999
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