MAKE TAHOE DEEP AGAIN ~ 2016/17 OFISHUL SNOW/FOOD/WHINE & STOKE THREAD

[NakedShorts]

Ok so you win the weekend.

I loves me some little sprout stoke.

What is he? Two?

18 Months
We bought him the helmet so he could get used to it and play with it at home. Then he started wearing it around the house sliding his feet around in Tupperware so we "assumed" he was telling us something. He comes every weekend (minus the powder days) and hangs in the lodge. He has been in the Baby Bjorn and on my skis a bunch. Lil' Dude will probably get 40 days next year. Inspired by your good work sir...Throwin Owen for the win.

[Ottime]

18 Months
We bought him the helmet so he could get used to it and play with it at home. Then he started wearing it around the house sliding his feet around in Tupperware so we "assumed" he was telling us something. He comes every weekend (minus the powder days) and hangs in the lodge. He has been in the Baby Bjorn and on my skis a bunch. Lil' Dude will probably get 40 days next year. Inspired by your good work sir...Throwin Owen for the win.

Lots of advice out there. The two biggest things for us were the (1) ski bench and (2) hot beverage. Our biggest day this season was 15k, but even with that we stopped three times to build a bench and drink hot cocoa.

We only go into the lodge when we are cold. And he gets bundled up, so that rarely happens.

We also bought a pair of mitts at Costco. They were branded touch screen running gloves. Kind of a neoprene type material. We used them as mitt liners, so when we stopped he could take off his outer mitt, and not freeze his fingers. They cost like $6 and are perfect.

[AKbruin]

As others have mentioned, this was great Tahoe weekend. Folks were out but it wasn't too crowded.

Started off Saturday with a couple early morning pow laps in the backyard.


Then took the kids to Diamond Peak. Ladies and gentlemen, the only Diamond Peak video TR on this thread:



On Sunday, I met up with the illustrious Klar, Freak, and C on their first-ever Sierra trip. We went to Tallac, where I showed them the pleasure of a needlessly steep and stupid (yet traditional) Tahoe-skin track.


There was a lot of heavy sluff moving (like rivers) on anything steep. Note the mini-slide/sluffalanche early on.


But Klar, Freak, and C were happy. Sadly, Europe appears to have caught Tahoe's 2014/15 winter, meaning that they received very little snow. Hooray for sunny April powder days.


Take note bland Americans: The European color game is on point.


Except for Klar, who needs to rethink her pants game.


We did a second lap on a neglected part of the mountain. Everything was consistent and fun.


Fun day!

[2ski2fish4ever]

Machio,pretty sure I went up the lift at Kirkwood with you Sunday,i was in all black arteryx k2 105 pinnacles.it was great skiing there for my first time skied sugarbowl thurs fri sat days,agreat welcome to
Tahoe. hopefully ski squaw/alpine tue wed thurs before heading back to
vt.

[MTT]

Nice TR.
I spent most of my kid years @ Diamond Peak = Ski Incline

As others have mentioned, this was great Tahoe weekend. Folks were out but it wasn't too crowded.

Started off Saturday with a couple early morning pow laps in the backyard.


Then took the kids to Diamond Peak. Ladies and gentlemen, the only Diamond Peak video TR on this thread:



On Sunday, I met up with the illustrious Klar, Freak, and C on their first-ever Sierra trip. We went to Tallac, where I showed them the pleasure of a needlessly steep and stupid (yet traditional) Tahoe-skin track.


There was a lot of heavy sluff moving (like rivers) on anything steep. Note the mini-slide/sluffalanche early on.


But Klar, Freak, and C were happy. Sadly, Europe appears to have caught Tahoe's 2014/15 winter, meaning that they received very little snow. Hooray for sunny April powder days.


Take note bland Americans: The European color game is on point.


Except for Klar, who needs to rethink her pants game.


We did a second lap on a neglected part of the mountain. Everything was consistent and fun.


Fun day!

[TahoeJ]

Oldgoat - not sure why you deleted your post but I'll pick up on it. With KSL and Aspen buying Steamboat from Intrawest, rumor has it that the two companies are merging or will formally merge within the next year or so as part of the deal. Interesting.

[Robojerry]

You guys are on to something.

KSL and Aspen are establishing a new entity to manage the intrawest assets. Squaw Valley Ski Holdings is also apparently being transferred to this new entity (but keeping operating/management structure intact).

Aspen Ski Co assets remain under the same ownership structure (not being transferred to the new entity).

So, if the deal closes Aspen would own half of squaw (sort of).

Not that this is going to change shit, though.

[mcski]

Waiting impatiently for Palisades stoke to gnash teeth over...

[Parkface]

I skied Steven's Peak this morning. It looks like there was a skier triggered slide on Comma Couloir sometime this weekend. The runout was about 150 yards long. I was the only car in the pullout when I started.

[somethingclever...]

I skied Steven's Peak this morning. It looks like there was a skier triggered slide on Comma Couloir sometime this weekend. The runout was about 150 yards long. I was the only car in the pullout when I started.

. Looks like someone took a little ride in the Crater bowl as well. Not sure if it's visually apparent but tracks going in... Nothing..And tracks going out. Almost identical aspect and elevation as the comma.

[MTT]

. Looks like someone took a little ride in the Crater bowl as well. Not sure if it's visually apparent but tracks going in... Nothing..And tracks going out. Almost identical aspect and elevation as the comma.

that is starting to look a bit dangerous. Could the weigh of there little slides cause a big deeper fracture?

anyone starting to talk about that.

[gone2alpine]

KSL and Aspen are establishing a new entity to manage the intrawest assets. Squaw Valley Ski Holdings is also apparently being transferred to this new entity (but keeping operating/management structure intact).

Maybe they are tired of all of the Keeping Skiing Lame and Keep Standing in Line jokes....

[TahoeJ]

that is starting to look a bit dangerous. Could the weigh of there little slides cause a big deeper fracture?

anyone starting to talk about that.

Not really. If the power of a slide didn't trigger a deeper layer, the odds of a skier doing it are slim to none. Of course, with some more sun, snow, and/or wind that's an entirely different discussion.

[kidwoo]

that is starting to look a bit dangerous. Could the weigh of there little slides cause a big deeper fracture?

anyone starting to talk about that.

That top one is just surface sluff. Was kicking it off all day yesterday. All the runs our group took looked just like that. It was running but not much mass to it on similar terrain.

[TahoeBC]

There is definitely a reactive layer up high, more than just sluff on some open slopes. After skiing the Moon coolie on Roundtop I traversed above Winimucca lake took a few turns and took a ride in a slab avalanche. A friend who I talked to later took a ride also on a nearby slope off of Carson pass also, beware. Avy danger was rated as low for all elevations when this occurred this morning



Look how far down slope it broke almost instantaneously

[kidwoo]

Just saw that on FB.


Definitely NOT surface sluff in that case

[bodywhomper]

Glad y'all are ok!

[SchralphMacchio]

Could the weigh of their little slides cause a big deeper fracture?

MTT, not sure what you consider big or deeper. This isn't an early season or really layered snowpack like we had in early January. Back then, the avalanche problems were Persistent Slab and Deep Persistent Slab,and you'd have been concerned about remote triggering and/or new snow avalanches stepping down to a deeper fracture.

Over this past weekend we had new, windloaded storm snow on top of consolidated old snow, pretty much bomber melt freeze crust on most all aspects. One photo (Robert Parker's) shows what looks like surface slough (loose dry or loose wet, could have been either depending on time) that looks like it could have possibly gone deeper into the new snow (which was 30"+ in some places), but not below the new snow. (It's also hard to tell whether slough caused by falling/melting snow off the rocks went before or after the skier slough and ended up in the same deposition zone.)

The other photo (somethingclever) shows what looks pretty clearly like a skier triggered windslab avalanche failing near the ridgeline, and failing as a large pocket propagating across the dip in the bowl - you can see what looks like a pretty clear crown line distinctive to a slab as opposed to slough.

#1 avalanche problem of concern on Sunday was listed as very likely wet loose avalanches on all solar aspects at all elevations, with some possibility of destructive wind slab problems on NE aspects where these two slides occurred. Low probability for slab failures but up to 30"+ consequence, so then you're looking at your runout zones if you're gonna roll those dice.
http://www.sierraavalanchecenter.org...anche-advisory

"Some lingering wind slabs may still exist in steep wind loaded terrain on NW-N-NE-E-SE aspects in near treeline and above treeline terrain. As the sun comes out today, existing wind slabs may be further weakened by intense solar radiation especially wind slabs that are receiving direct sun on E-SE aspects."

Glad everyone who went for a ride was in pretty clean runout zones!

I bet the really cold temps on Saturday and Sunday nights preserved some well shaded windslabs and impeded bonding.

[fogey]

Maybe this is already happening but folks who were involved in or saw these slides would be doing a service by getting some information to SAC. Speaking for myself understanding actual local slides is the best tool for staying safe--and not everybody follows this forum or Facebook.

[SchralphMacchio]

^ TBC's and the RLP crater bowl slab are up on the obs list ...

[Ottime]

This little cycle has me thinking about how KW is telling everyone that it is okay they are closing next Sunday, because they are going to "allow" uphill access. Their AARIE I class has been booked full, and they added one recently due to demand. They are promoting skinning at the resort after closure. On their FB page, people are asking about where to buy AT bindings and skins. Kind of scary to think if a bunch of BC newbs were to venture out and up the resort on a day similiar to this past Sunday. Pretty much every run there is a avalanche path. Wondering what next Monday/Tuesday is going to be like. On the other hand, the cirque is so fat right now; makes me wish I had next week off.

BTW, TahoeBC, that POV capture is pretty insane. Was that the "oh, shit" moment?

[klar]

Thanks to the most excellent guiding and general info provided by AKbruin we had two really fun days of skiing. Yesterday on Tallac we fell off the special skin track and showed off our colourful outfits. Today we did something on Echo, which I'm sure has a name and AKbruin probably even told us what it is, but I can't remember. Saw zero other people. Enjoyed encounters with exotic (to us) wildlife. Only got lost very briefly trying to find the car at the end of the day.

Glad everyone who had slab issues is okay, that gopro screenshot posted above is spooky.

AKbruin cruising yesterday


Echo today

[MashedPotatoes]

This little cycle has me thinking about how KW is telling everyone that it is okay they are closing next Sunday, because they are going to "allow" uphill access. Their AARIE I class has been booked full, and they added one recently due to demand. They are promoting skinning at the resort after closure. On their FB page, people are asking about where to buy AT bindings and skins. Kind of scary to think if a bunch of BC newbs were to venture out and up the resort on a day similiar to this past Sunday. Pretty much every run there is a avalanche path. Wondering what next Monday/Tuesday is going to be like. On the other hand, the cirque is so fat right now; makes me wish I had next week off.

Gooood morning and thanks for calling Kirkwood! Now go fucking walk up the hill and try not to get buried assholes! Oh and please buy a pass for next year!

[gimpy]

its one thing to allow people to access the mtn when its closed, but to actively promote skinning when ops are closed on a mtn like kirkwood is a really bad idea due to the fact that the whole place is in harms way from avy danger above as someone already said.
id like to take this opportunity to give props to tahoebc and powdorks crew for following proper bc etiquette today avoiding another close call. my party was ahead of theirs in the crescent couloir today so they opted to ski the middle line to stay out of our fall line in the mainline. we checked that they had gone left first before dropping and i was the first of our party to ski down. i kicked off a nice sized release that would have thrashed anyone below me and it turns out that the line they skied held the best snow anyway according to a friend who skied all of the lines before us so their good manners were rewarded.
after tbc's slide ride we bailed and on the out we noticed more tracks leading to a crown and debris pile over woods lake but also noticed an exit track out of it and our friends truck was gone from parking lot. he reported as well

[mmmm...pow!]

Well, I feel pretty justified bailing on a line I've been wanting to do for a long time today. Not that I really need justification other than sitting home on the couch drinking a beer and not having been taken for a ride over something with only moderate odds for survival.