GUNS!!!!!!!!

[AKPogue]

You should file the front sight off.

Do you try and sound like an idiot or does it just come naturally?

[stuckathuntermtn]

No, I just don't live in a world of fear.

[AKPogue]

No, I just don't live in a world of fear.

Do you use an Avy Beacon?

[Conundrum]

Looking for some advice from the maggot-hive mind. I grew up with rifles and shotguns, but pistols are something I have little experience with. I'm looking for a sidearm that I can take backpacking with me that is reliable (aka bombproof), accurate, relatively lightweight, and has decent stopping power. I realize that there's probably no gun that will be excellent in all of those categories, but looking for something that will come as close as possible. Living in New England, I don't have to worry about coming face to face with a grizzly, and black bears don't concern me much as I've encountered them a handful of times and they're pansies. But if I'm out on a multi day trip with my wife and pup, I think it would give me better piece of mind to have a pistol for protection from critters and crazy hillbillies.

I'm intrigued by the Glock 21, but I'm a total newb when it comes to handguns. Do any of you carry when you're hiking?

I carry an LCR .357. It's really light, reliable, and good stopping power. It's not that accurate though with it's super short barrel. Pistols, while rare, can jam. If a revolver misfires, you pull the trigger again. .357 has good stopping power and you can also shoot .38 out of it for cost or recoil purposes. There are other handguns in this category that have a little longer barrel but you will gain some weight. If you want a semi-auto, lots of options. I just picked up a M&P45c that isn't too heavy and seems to shoot well. If you don't mind the lower stopping power of 9mm, tons of options there.

[TNKen]

Depends on you. I trained with revolvers for many years in the wildlife business, my go to guns were a S&W Model 66 in .357 and a Model 17 in 22lr. Revolvers have advantages of being semi-idiot proof and ultra reliable. Temper that with typically 6 shots and a heavy package. Some of the newer titanium versions and ones on smaller frames are lighter, but the recoil is a bear. I have a S&W Airlight in .38+P that is a handful.

Although there are tons of them out there, I'm not a Glock fan. Not sold on the trigger system. I shoot them well, and haven't had issues with them, but there are tons of folks that find themselves with a finger in the trigger as it is holstered with a round down their leg. In the bigger calibers, a portion of the camber is "unsupported" and with some of the super pressure rounds become stressed, i.e. the Glock Kaboom.

I have several autos, mostly HK, S&W, and a bunch of 1911's. Have had a ton of others, including Glocks, Tarus, Walther, etc.

If you are looking at a knock down round, don't throw out the 10mm. Or .45.

Best thing you can do is head to a range and fondle a few with someone who can give you some advice.

[bendtheski]

You should file the front sight off.

Mebee. The goal with this thing is to be fairly proficient at close range. I don't expect to be able to sight my target if I ever have to use it, so will mostly practice point shooting.

Of course it largely depends on the circumstance, but I think it might be hard to argue self-defense when your target is 15+ feet away.

[XavierD]

I don't expect to be able to sight my target if I ever have to use it, so will mostly practice point shooting.

well that would be fuckin stupid

[AKPogue]

well that would be fuckin stupid

Why is that stupid? At close distances there is no reason at all to use your sights if you do some training.

[bendtheski]

^Maybe he's referring to grinding the front sight off a brand new gun?
Not practicing both sight and point shooting would be pretty fucking stupid IMO.

[splat]

[TAFKALVS]

<polyass>I want gay married couples to be able to protect fields of Marijuana with belt fed machine guns. And not owe any taxes on the MJ or the belt fed machine guns.</polyass>

[stuckathuntermtn]

Mebee. The goal with this thing is to be fairly proficient at close range. I don't expect to be able to sight my target if I ever have to use it, so will mostly practice point shooting.

Of course it largely depends on the circumstance, but I think it might be hard to argue self-defense when your target is 15+ feet away.

You totally missed the bear protection joke, but that's nice.

[stuckathuntermtn]

Do you use an Avy Beacon?

Only when I think I need one. Which is basically never, since I ski inbounds around Missoula, MT.
Nice try on the ridiculous analogy though. Should I wear one when I drive?
Should I bring my .22 rifle? Someone might attack me with gluten free pasta!

[stuckathuntermtn]

And for the record:
I don't have a problem with guns. Guns are fun. They're a little too much money for me, thanks to all of you people buying up the fear (and guns) that the NRA and the gun industry is selling. They're like tobacco companies refusing to admit there is a problem.
Don't have a problem with guns, just people lying to themselves.
Insert penis size joke here.

[LeeC]

I borrowed these pics from Mark on the colt forums.
I don't have mine in yet.
He take some nice photos
This is what I have waiting on me when I go to pick it up.

[bendtheski]

You totally missed the bear protection joke, but that's nice.

I guess I did, but hey, as long as you got it, that's all that matters.

[TAFKALVS]

I borrowed these pics from Mark on the colt forums.
I don't have mine in yet.
He take some nice photos
This is what I have waiting on me when I go to pick it up.

I can always rationally say I don't like/want/need 1911s but they are so dang purdy to look at...

[Bcar]

And for the record:
I don't have a problem with guns. Guns are fun. They're a little too much money for me, thanks to all of you people buying up the fear (and guns) that the NRA and the gun industry is selling. They're like tobacco companies refusing to admit there is a problem.
Don't have a problem with guns, just people lying to themselves.
Insert penis size joke here.

it is not fear...it is fun! keep drinking the koolaid...

[AKPogue]

it is not fear...it is fun! keep drinking the koolaid...

It is too late, the poison in the koolaid has already done its damage.

[sb]

I borrowed these pics from Mark on the colt forums.
I don't have mine in yet.
He take some nice photos
This is what I have waiting on me when I go to pick it up.

You will not be disappointed. I have one, slightly custom, and its a fine piece of shootin iron.

[sb]

<polyass>I want gay married couples to be able to protect fields of Marijuana with belt fed machine guns. And not owe any taxes on the MJ or the belt fed machine guns.</polyass>

Those damn deer will wipe you out in a night. Belt feed 4shor.

[stuckathuntermtn]

I think that's allowed in Montana. If you can show all the deer are damaging your crops, there's this permit that practically let's you kill as many as you can. I don't think there are many limitations on magazine size, and I have no idea about automatic fire, but if you have a class 3, it's legal in MT to have it. You can grow weed and they're working on making it legal to sell again. Should have some gay marriages here soon too. Pew pew, I do, hey, wanna get high?


PS, there's also no sales tax.

[XavierD]

I'm not a fan of 'point shooting.' Always get a sight picture. Learn to get a quick sight picture. You'll only kill the people you want to, and are more likely to kill the person you want to. Just my 2c.

[TNKen]

True point shooters use a single action revolver and learn to fan their shots. Don't guess you ever watched Gunsmoke.

You're just a noob wanna-be.

[LeeC]

Grabbed a couple of stock photos.
Just got my hands on mine, and will be nice to shoot..Maybe.