Dropper posts... am I missing something?

[joetron]

I often find my self using my dropper post more than my shifters on a fun pedally downhill.

[raisingarizona13]

For XC riding and racing I really haven't felt the need for one. If somebody gave me one I'd throw it on and try it out for sure but I just can't justify the price or weight penalty. I have ridden with them on demo bikes and I'm sure they take some getting used to but I found them really awkward to use on rolling terrain. There is a certain type of terrain that warrants dropping the seat imo, very steep or jump/drops. I just don't encounter much of that in my everyday riding.

Really? I routinely drop my seat for a cool flat corner or a single short feature. Cornering feels terrible with my seat jacked all the way up.

[kidwoo]

Really? I routinely drop my seat for a cool flat corner

Heh. I think that's actually the best thing about dropper posts.


Instant this:

[Spats]

OK, for those that like the concept, which post do you like best and why?

Gravity Dropper because they ACTUALLY WORK.

Everyone I know with a non-GD post has had to send it back for warranty at least once, even the KS. (More like three or four times if it's Crank Brothers.) And most of them are completely non-serviceable or rebuildable due to magic hydraulic cartridges -- unlike a GD which you can rebuild yourself, with cheap parts that GD keeps in stock, if anything ever breaks.

Yes, it's possible for gigantic people to eventually snap the post on the 27.2 version if they run it forwards. 1. Run it backwards like everyone does now 2. You really still have a 27.2 seatpost?

I have no idea why people keep spending money on things that are expensive and suck when the first people to make a damn dropper post got it mostly right the first time. And the new Turbo LP fixes anything you might have had a problem with on the original.

Seriously: can someone enlighten me on why people have an inexhaustible appetite for expensive things that suck and break, while refusing to buy something that works fine and always has?

(I'd plug the All Mountain Post, as mine still works -- but it's not made anymore and FSA never did anything with it after buying the design.)

[Hugh Conway]

Because the point's spending money, and talking about the money spent, not getting shit that works.

see: flyfishing and all the crap designed to catch fisherman. Now back to snowballing.

[Tye 1on]

Because the point's spending money, and talking about the money spent, not getting shit that works.

see: flyfishing and all the crap designed to catch fisherman. Now back to snowballing.

You have a bike Hugh?

Constant whining is getting fkn old.

[kidwoo]

I have no idea why people keep spending money on things that are expensive and suck when the first people to make a damn dropper post got it mostly right the first time. And the new Turbo LP fixes anything you might have had a problem with on the original.

Because gravity droppers have a lot of play, shitty cable placement and that bigass ugly boot. I don't know the seatpost size (I doubt it was 27.2, santa cruz frames) but I know a guy who's about a buck70 who's broken two of them. He's the kind of guy who might sit down in g-outs though to be fair........

Other than one run of KS posts (which I timed perfectly in getting), those things don't exactly have a high failure rate do they? The two guys I ride with who talked me into those are still riding original run ones with no problems as far as I know.

[Hugh Conway]

You have a bike Hugh?

Constant whining is getting fkn old.

Does this count as a strike and a warning? I was responding to spats "whine"

I have no idea why people keep spending money on things that are expensive and suck when the first people to make a damn dropper post got it mostly right the first time. And the new Turbo LP fixes anything you might have had a problem with on the original.

no attacks

If the point is to jerk each other off, and make sure everyone can jerk each other off - delete all my fucking posts and ban me. Quit the fucking bullshit, nut up, say you want a circle jerk, and ban everyone who doesn't agree with it. You've told me I suck dozens of fucking times Tye. The constant string of self-promotional bullshit circle-jerk - which is particularly rancid in this sub-forum - is fucking old. It sucks the fun out of bikes.

If you want to sell an honest forum, tolerate honesty. Pointing out that bikers buy lot's of stupid shit is honest.

[Tye 1on]

Does this count as a strike and a warning? I was responding to spats "whine"


If the point is to jerk each other off, and make sure everyone can jerk each other off - delete all my fucking posts and ban me. Quit the fucking bullshit, nut up, and say you want a circle jerk, and ban everyone who doesn't agree with it.

it's a bike thread for fucks sake.

you have a bike? Ride it? Have anything helpful to offer on bikes?

or just want to spew your typical 'you all suck' crap?

[Hugh Conway]

it's a bike thread for fucks sake.

you have a bike? Ride it? Have anything helpful to offer on bikes?

or just want to spew your typical 'you all suck' crap?

do you have anything to add in this thread Tye, or is this just browbeating Hugh so you can ban him just like TGR420 wants?

I think dropper posts are fucking stupid. Based on the OP, that's adding something, because I don't get them <- that's the same level of content as most posts here. If that's not ok because I'm Hugh - and I think most of, but not all by any means, of the stuff here sucks, just fucking ban me. I'm not going to play the personal information game, for the same reason I deleted all my TRs - because it's just an opportunity to be shat on. My bike's not expensive enough, my ski's aren't rad enough, and I don't have pictures of some wannabe escort slut's tit's I met on craigslist to post.

[Tye 1on]

do you have anything to add in this thread Tye, or is this just browbeating Hugh so you can ban him just like TGR420 wants?

I think dropper posts are fucking stupid. Based on the OP, that's adding something, because I don't get them <- that's the same level of content as most posts here. If that's not ok because I'm Hugh - and I think most of, but not all by any means, of the stuff here sucks, just fucking ban me.

haven't tried a dropper but hope to demo one soon. Lots of trails that i ride have longer stretches of up or down, so think it would be nice to have a couple seat heights to use on each. Not sure what else there is to 'get'...Demo'd one?

[Hugh Conway]

like ski's, I never care enough to waste my time and money to demo stuff. buy, resell if it sucks, take the loss like the "trustafarian" schmuck I am.

[joetron]

I've got about 7 years of Reverb usage in my household on 3 posts between my wife and I. Exactly zero problems. Cut lines on all, bled 2 of 3 after cutting.
They are really smooth, have infinitely adjustable height, very little horizontal play - if any, adjustable return speed, and I haven't done shit to them.

Have I seen some lemons? Yep, but they seemed to have really figured out that product by this point.

Imho, Remotely adjustable seatposts are great for mountain biking. It's a development right up there with suspension and disc brakes.

Modern mountain bikes are fucking awesome. So were the mountain bikes I was riding in 1989, 1995, 1999, etc. but the one I have today is the best.


Which leads me to...

Hugh, your bullshit is stale. Yes, we all know that there is a shitty sales and marketing aspect to "the industry". And it's gotten really obnoxious with the internet. Whoopty fucking doo, no shit. You can pay attention to it, exactly as much as you want to.
It's like a goddamn never-ending college dorm room conversation with you.

Going skiing is still awesome. Riding mountain bikes is still awesome. There's technology that is making both sports more awesome, and some that isn't. No shit. But to constantly just chime in and shit on everything the same way, every goddamn day...it's just getting old, man.

If you really don't like this place as much as you seem to, just fuck off. Man up and quit yourself. You keep asking to get banned. It's like the 4th post in the New Roolz thread. Just fucking do it yourself.

I hope you'd be happier for it, because you sure do seem miserable when you get involved with shit around here.

[shirk]

I like using my Gravity Dropper to shoot rocks. The spring can really send em.

[Hugh Conway]

I've got about 7 years of Reverb usage in my household on 3 posts between my wife and I. Exactly zero problems. Cut lines on all, bled 2 of 3 after cutting.
They are really smooth, have infinitely adjustable height, very little horizontal play - if any, adjustable return speed, and I haven't done shit to them.

Have I seen some lemons? Yep, but they seemed to have really figured out that product by this point.

Imho, Remotely adjustable seatposts are great for mountain biking. It's a development right up there with suspension and disc brakes.

Modern mountain bikes are fucking awesome. So were the mountain bikes I was riding in 1989, 1995, 1999, etc. but the one I have today is the best.


Which leads me to...

Hugh, your bullshit is stale. Yes, we all know that there is a shitty sales and marketing aspect to "the industry". And it's gotten really obnoxious with the internet. Whoopty fucking doo, no shit. You can pay attention to it, exactly as much as you want to.
It's like a goddamn never-ending college dorm room conversation with you.

Going skiing is still awesome. Riding mountain bikes is still awesome. There's technology that is making both sports more awesome, and some that isn't. No shit. But to constantly just chime in and shit on everything the same way, every goddamn day...it's just getting old, man.

If you really don't like this place as much as you seem to, just fuck off. Man up and quit yourself. You keep asking to get banned. It's like the 4th post in the New Roolz thread. Just fucking do it yourself.

I hope you'd be happier for it, because you sure do seem miserable when you get involved with shit around here.

I'm glad discretion keeps such high-value personal attacks around, specifically when someone has such a deep understanding of the subject matter. If you are such a mature individual above dorm room banter, use the ignore function. If you guys want a message board without dissenting voices - ban the fucking dissenting voices.Which is the problem, and if they want to do that, they should fucking do that.

I totally get bikes are awesome. You've said that 5,000 times, it doesn't make riding them anymore awesome. It's actually really grating to me like a sorority sister always having to pep everyone up. I'm stale because you guys chime in every day with the same schtick on the same stuff. It's fucking old. It's content free babble that does little to help anyone learn anything.Telling me shit you get for free's great (or shit some nebulous bro broke sucks) is worthless - because I don't trust you to ever talk about the bad, and the question of how/why the bit broke is what matters because the "who" requires to much crap. Laundry engineer list's of problems are useless; it's the failure rate for the purchaser that matters - and that data is NEVER made public, nor except in extreme circumstances are meaningful samples EVER AVAILABLE ONLINE. There's hundreds of posts on gravity droppers and they all boil down to nothing; if you want a friendly barroom babble with the right kind of people use the bouncers to kick out who you don't like and own up to you running that kind of club. I'm most definitely not the only person who finds the endless empty positivity bullshit annoying. Some really "stoked" people do. Some of them have even said so. If you want one message board voice - which many of you do, and make clear over and over and over and over and over again, own up. Just don't pretend it's anything but a subset.

[markcjr]

I've broke a gravity dropper twice, on the trail. It didn't work again till i got the shim kit. My reverb, a 14' model had been nothing but smooth

[creaky fossil]

If you guys want a message board without dissenting voices - ban the fucking dissenting voices.

I always figure The Brotherhood of MTB requires groupthink. There's the accepted view, and then there's haters who hate bikes & riders, and never ride.

It's really a simple binary. It's even simpler if one of the Vaunted Brobrahbris Heroes of TGR is mocked or contradicted: the mocker/naysayer should be pilloried ASAP.

Now, someone might be able to pull off a parody by overblowing the Groupthink Perspective and doing something like telling a naysayer/critic/gadfly/mocker to GO DIE IN A FIRE ASSHOLE, but it seems instead the coresteezy Groupthink is happier with passive aggression, singling out commenters, comments, or words within comments as hateful bigoted misogynistic homophobic reactionary conservative whackjob prepper nutter luddite blah blah blah.

The easiest way to render discussion useless is to disallow mockery and dissent. Uselessness seems to be the goal of many, however.

I have a LEV and I like it, but I can ride a bike w/o a dropper post too. As I said in the prior thread, I had a Joplin and liked it less. I have no interest in a GD because I'm finicky about seat height and mandatory 1" or 2" drops don't cut it for me. Plus there's the rattley nature of that steampunk engineering behind it.

I'm most definitely not the only person who finds the endless empty positivity bullshit annoying.

When your core audience is wannabes stuck in cubicles or behind a desk in a fancy trading house, law firm or bank/brokerage, hating their life but continuing it because they need the middle class approval of Status and Income and Trinket Acquisition, empty positivity in a forum is like verbal anti-depressants. Everyone loves life on TGR, even if I hate mine in meatspace!, runs the thought process.

I hope you'd be happier for it, because you sure do seem miserable when you get involved with shit around here.

How does someone "seem miserable" through an internet connection?

[Conundrum]

I dig dropper posts. Sometimes I ride a trail without hitting the button and can honestly say I like the trails around here better when I adjust the seat. We have a lot of water bars though.

My original GD had issues with the adjustable ring moving so either the seat wouldn't go down or stay up. I fixed it with duct tape. My Turbo GD worked great. Started to have issues at the end of a season so I sent it in and for $15, it came back good as new and went on my GF's bike. I've had a Reverb for a few seasons and I like it better than the GD. It's starting to sink a little at the top without hitting the button. Sometimes it does it, sometimes not. I'm going to check the air and then maybe have to send it in. First issue in two seasons.

People talk about these things breaking, needing servicing, etc. I've had some sort of dropper for the last 6-7 years and I've also worn out a lot of parts like tires, chains, ders, rebuilt or at least serviced suspension parts. Riding bikes wears moving parts out. Yeah, will a dropper need more service than a solid piece of metal holding your seat? Sure. Does a dropper help me enjoy my rides a little better? Yes.

[grinch]

"I always figure The Brotherhood of MTB requires groupthink. There's the accepted view, and then there's haters who hate bikes & riders, and never ride.

It's really a simple binary. It's even simpler if one of the Vaunted Brobrahbris Heroes of TGR is mocked or contradicted: the mocker/naysayer should be pilloried ASAP.

Now, someone might be able to pull off a parody by overblowing the Groupthink Perspective and doing something like telling a naysayer/critic/gadfly/mocker to GO DIE IN A FIRE ASSHOLE, but it seems instead the coresteezy Groupthink is happier with passive aggression, singling out commenters, comments, or words within comments as hateful bigoted misogynistic homophobic reactionary conservative whackjob prepper nutter luddite blah blah blah.

The easiest way to render discussion useless is to disallow mockery and dissent. Uselessness seems to be the goal of many, however."

while I agree, I can't help snicker at the irony. I think you even called me a ,wait for it....trustafarian, back then. I remember it being the ol boys club of that week. you, gravity lover, and flowtron. how could I suggest wide bars , slack angles and low bb w only X# posts? shit , flowtron even espoused the benefits of said set up(bars,slack,etc). couldn't help but bring that up. never was much for playing along no matter who the f it is. bs and poli aint ma ting BRO

[stuckathuntermtn]

Hugh, stfu. Fuck.

[Hott Butt Mud]

I picture CJ as an obese 45 year old who is clinging on to his one-time trip skiing in Katmandu which seems to have made him the authority on mountain biking all of a sudden.

[Hugh Conway]

have you ever done anything but stir shit and cheerlead bannings and create drama threads of attacks with all your logins gunit/gaper/buttmud?

[Hott Butt Mud]

I don't cheerlead bannings, but I do like to stir the shit. I think you are the highlight of TGR forums at the moment. When you do finally decide to self-ban yourself (or they decide to shut you the fuck up), this forum is going to be a lot different. Probably not all that fun to read actually.

Am I right though? How much do you weigh? What's your BMI, fatty?

[Tye 1on]

I don't cheerlead bannings, but I do like to stir the shit. I think you are the highlight of TGR forums at the moment. When you do finally decide to self-ban yourself (or they decide to shut you the fuck up), this forum is going to be a lot different. Probably not all that fun to read actually.

that's why i keep dragging my feet on stepping in the ban crap. He is entertaining. In a way. Maybe he'll get tired of repetition and go the self-ban route? doubting it....

[kidwoo]

Heroes of TGR

I'm working on a poster series for you to hang up on your wall.





I'll even sign it for 10 bucks.