Binding Mount Paper Templates

[TBS]

Jon, are the Guardian heel BSL alignment marks backwards on the template?

Seems like the marks should be largest at the top (closest to tip) and get smaller toward the center of the template.

I did a search on this thread but didn't come up with an answer

What am I missing here?

[Ducksta13]

Any one have the new salomon STH WTR pattern, they changed the heel piece pattern

[tBatt]

Does anyone know where the print scaling options went for windows 8?

edit:
Window's "reader' app (default to open a PDF) sucks and doesn't give you the option. Had to go through Adobe Acrobat and all was right.

[glademaster]

Does anyone have a Plum Yak template? Their website is down and a few minutes of internet searching has turned up a whole bunch of nothing.

[Frank Naets]

Jon, are the Guardian heel BSL alignment marks backwards on the template?

Seems like the marks should be largest at the top (closest to tip) and get smaller toward the center of the template.

I did a search on this thread but didn't come up with an answer

What am I missing here?

Because the Guardian is a frame design, the position of the heelpiece doesn't change relative to the toe (which determines the midsole position). Therefore the markings for the heel are the same as for the toe, so the marking are correct. I used them and they were perfect. Be really carefull during mounting that you poperly align the heel with the toe, or the locking mechanism might give you some headache...

[ace..]

anyone have issues with the salomon template? just used it and the heel piece rear screws are a few millimeters short of the actual length.

[Lindahl]

My little contribution back to Jon's efforts. I created a GIMP file for the Heel and Toe patterns with transparent layers, so that you look for binding conflicts without having to print up a bunch of pieces of paper on tracing paper, or trying to use backlighting. To deal with different BSLs, just duplicate the layer, select all, and move it accordingly.

Toe patterns:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_dF...it?usp=sharing

Heel patterns:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_dF...it?usp=sharing

(GIMP is basically an open source, free version of Adobe Photoshop.)

Jon, do whatever you wish with them and feel free to put them on your website, as it was essentially created with your contributions. If you can, provide links to these files on the original post. For some reason, I couldn't add them as attachments on TGR. It doesn't let me upload XCF files.

[shroom]

heh awesome, I've been doing this a lot in gimp the last few weeks. this'll be appreciated greatly by those willing to download gimp.

[Lindahl]

Added letters to identify which binding is which. This also allows you to print up and use one single piece of paper for binding identification on a ski that you have no prior mounting knowledge of (also can help you identify mount position and BSL).

Here are the PDF's for letter-based binding identification:
Toe.pdf
Heel.pdf

T = Tyrolia
P = Axial
A = Axial2/PX
F = FKS/Pivot
S = Salomon
D = Duke (old)
E = Duke EPF (new)
J = Jester
V = Dynafit Vertical (old)
R = Dynafit Radical (new)

[TBS]

Because the Guardian is a frame design, the position of the heelpiece doesn't change relative to the toe (which determines the midsole position). Therefore the markings for the heel are the same as for the toe, so the marking are correct. I used them and they were perfect. Be really carefull during mounting that you poperly align the heel with the toe, or the locking mechanism might give you some headache...

Ahhh - Got it - thanks. Seems pretty obvious when you put it that way...

[maladjusted_vagabond]

I've printed out the guardian template, and the scale on the side matches up great, but when I look at the BSL marks, its seems like they increase by 10mm, but they're marked as though its 20mm (i.e the distance between the 320-340 is only 10mm when I measure it)
Can anyone clear that up for me?

[whatsupdoc]

I've printed out the guardian template, and the scale on the side matches up great, but when I look at the BSL marks, its seems like they increase by 10mm, but they're marked as though its 20mm (i.e the distance between the 320-340 is only 10mm when I measure it)
Can anyone clear that up for me?

That is because the toe template and the heel template are each only half of the footprint of the boot.

For instance, if your boot increased BSL by 20 mm, you would only move the toe 10 mm forward and the heel 10 mm backwards to keep your midsole on the line.

[whatsupdoc]

Has anyone else found that the Head/Tyrolia Mojo/Peak template puts you like 5-7 mm forward of the line? I used it last year and found this to be the case even after triple checking things. Can anyone confirm this or whether or not it's been amended (or maybe I still fucked up even after triple checking)?

[maladjusted_vagabond]

That is because the toe template and the heel template are each only half of the footprint of the boot.

For instance, if your boot increased BSL by 20 mm, you would only move the toe 10 mm forward and the heel 10 mm backwards to keep your midsole on the line.

Ahh that makes sense thanks

[daviski]

Added letters to identify which binding is which. This also allows you to print up and use one single piece of paper for binding identification on a ski that you have no prior mounting knowledge of (also can help you identify mount position and BSL).

Here are the PDF's for letter-based binding identification:
Toe.pdf
Heel.pdf

T = Tyrolia
P = PX/Axial
A = Axial2
F = FKS
S = Salomon
D = Duke (old)
E = Duke EPF (new)
J = Jester
V = Dynafit Vertical (old)
R = Dynafit Radical (new)

This so cool and useful, thanks a lot for cramming it all together, I'm printing it out now

I'm sort of curious where Jons plate screw holes fall but since they are wider then any possible conflict I guess it doesn't matter

----edit

So which one is the pivot?

[Lindahl]

FKS = Pivot

[shafty85]

Remounting some skis I have - they are mounted with Marker M14s. Anyone have a template?

[Veldmanmiller]

Does anyone know how different the hole patterns for a duke vs m12 touring are?

[JayPowHound]

Added letters to identify which binding is which. This also allows you to print up and use one single piece of paper for binding identification on a ski that you have no prior mounting knowledge of (also can help you identify mount position and BSL).

Here are the PDF's for letter-based binding identification:
Toe.pdf
Heel.pdf

T = Tyrolia
P = Axial
A = Axial2/PX
F = FKS/Pivot
S = Salomon
D = Duke (old)
E = Duke EPF (new)
J = Jester
V = Dynafit Vertical (old)
R = Dynafit Radical (new)

Awesome resource, thanks!

Would love to see the various plates (sollyfit, dynaduke, etc..) added to the mix if you get a chance.

[skimaxpower]

Does anyone know how different the hole patterns for a duke vs m12 touring are?

Marker Tour12 has the same pattern as the Duke. (Except the new Duke EPF, which is different.) (Also worth noting that both the Tour and Duke come in two sizes, SM and LG)

[Westbasinchutes]

Just finished my first mount without a jig. Look PX 18 XXL paper template worked cherry! Stoked on it! Love the thread

[shafty85]

Mounted skis for the first time tonight - big thanks to Jondrums for the tools. Anyone else feel the heel pattern on the Radical is slightly off? On both bindings I got 3 of 4 holes bang on but the same hole (rear left) was just slightly off on both - when centre punched the hole wanted to line up just outside where it should have. All other holes went smoothly. Anyone else encounter this?

[billyhoyle]

Has anyone mounted a pair of the new STH13's? Is the hole pattern the same as the old Salomon template?

[skimaxpower]

Has anyone mounted a pair of the new STH13's? Is the hole pattern the same as the old Salomon template?

Different pattern. No template on this thread yet. But measurements are posted over at: http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...bindings/page3

[billyhoyle]

Beauty, thanks for the link.