BREAKING NEWS....(NFL RELATED)

[ak_powder_monkey]

is that there is a classy way to humilate your opponent, but the Pats so far this season have chosen to forgo class and head straight for the degradation option.

Didn't Brady only throw 3 touchdown passes? That means there was 4 TD run in... Now is running the ball to run out the clock not classy? How bout putting in your 3rd string?

I think everyone here is just hating because the rest of the NFL sucks giant balls (except the colts, this is gonna be an epic game)... Its about time New England fans are on top!

[CUBUCK]

Everybody in the NFL is one hit away from a career ending injury. If they keep leaving Brady in the game in the fourth quarter to continue to humiliate an opponent it becomes more and more likely that someone is going to put a late hit on him that really does some series damage. Not much different than what happens to a runner on second base relaying signs next time he comes to the plate.

[criscam]

Everybody in the NFL is one hit away from a career ending injury. If they keep leaving Brady in the game in the fourth quarter to continue to humiliate an opponent it becomes more and more likely that someone is going to put a late hit on him that really does some series damage. Not much different than what happens to a runner on second base relaying signs next time he comes to the plate.

difference is a baseball size bruise on your side vs a career ending injury

[MassLiberal]

Everybody in the NFL is one hit away from a career ending injury. If they keep leaving Brady in the game in the fourth quarter to continue to humiliate an opponent it becomes more and more likely that someone is going to put a late hit on him that really does some series damage. Not much different than what happens to a runner on second base relaying signs next time he comes to the plate.

Well, first they would have to get to him. I haven't seen a Linebacker get even close to Brady this year.

[iceman]

Michael Wilbon says it best in this morning's Washington Post.

It's not the Patriots' fault, it's the Redskins'.

[Rontele]

Michael Wilbon says it best in this morning's Washington Post.

It's not the Patriots' fault, it's the Redskins'.

I like Wilbon. I like it even more that the Pats are on a vengence tour.

[Tippster]

From said Article:

So those of you asking why the Patriots kept throwing and marching to the end zone even in the fourth quarter when most teams have throttled it back need to stop asking. The coach of the New England Patriots, Bill Belichick, is still openly seething that the NFL caught him cheating like a dog and his primary goal is to humiliate every single opponent he comes across between now and the end of the season.

The Washington Redskins had to know this going in. They gather intelligence. It's all over the league that the Patriots are on what some are calling "The Vengeance Tour." They watched videotape of the Patriots all week, of Brady throwing to Randy Moss and Wes Welker and Donte' Stallworth.

They saw the Patriots putting linebackers Mike Vrabel and Junior Seau in the game on goal line offense. The Redskins watched how the Patriots ran it up on the Dolphins the previous week, how Belichick put Tom Brady back in the game up 21 points in the fourth quarter. The Redskins watched the Patriots put 48 on the Cowboys in Dallas the week before that. So, more than anybody, Joe Gibbs and his team knew exactly what the Patriots were capable of doing and how merciless they've become.

Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord!

[CUBUCK]

difference is a baseball size bruise on your side vs a career ending injury

Having trouble finding the forest through the trees?

Mass, thats a good point but if I were Brady I would run and hide if there is an interception or fumble down field because he is going to get drilled pretty good.

[pappag]

Wow.

Belichick gets caught not playing by the rules, so now he abandons any kind of sportsmanship when in fact he has yet to display ANY?

ANNNDDD ... it's the NFL's fault for driving him and his team to such recent lengths?




Maybe some raging lunatic will pull a Tonya Harding on that turd.

[ArmadaBC]

Well, first they would have to get to him. I haven't seen a Linebacker get even close to Brady this year.

^^^ Bingo this I think is one of the things that truly show how good they are. Good blocking from the line is huge but only one part of the equation. What I think makes the patriots different is that everyone on the field understands exactly what they are supposed to be doing at any moment and are doing it 100%. The 85 bears defense had that sort of, we have taken it to a entirely different level type of play. One of my pet peeves is when QB's don't get rid of the ball on 3 step drop plays, the line knows they only have to protect for a few seconds and block accordingly to get the D line up the field and away from the play. So many times (Rex Grossman i'm looking at you) the QB pulls the ball down or waits too long to make a decision this equals disaster if your QB can't get out of the pocket and extend the play. I haven't seen Brady do this all year he always knows what he has to do and gets it done. This is just one tiny example of what makes them so good right now. 100% execution, it will be intresting to see what happens this weekend I really could see them blowing Indy out.

[pappag]

Week 13 got that much more interesting now with Buddy Ryan's son as the DC for Baltimore.

Or maybe Cam Cameron will give Joey Porter one last thing to feel good about.

[iceman]

Wow.

Belichick gets caught not playing by the rules, so now he abandons any kind of sportsmanship when in fact he has yet to display ANY?

ANNNDDD ... it's the NFL's fault for driving him and his team to such recent lengths?

I'm not saying he's correct, but this is why Belichick's pissed:

-He had already spoken to the league about the filming. Somehow he came away with the idea that it was within the rules, or at least he claims he did.

-The guy doing the filming was right on the sideline, in a neon orange vest. It wasn't like they were being sneaky about it.

-He got labeled as a cheater when he thought he was inside the lines.

-Many, if not all, teams try to steal signals. Coaches cover their mouths when calling plays for a reason.

-It was Mangini, his former assisstant, who had previously participated in the filming, who bitched about it.

-It cost him half a million bucks.


So in his mind he has reason to be pissed. I'm not saying he's right, but there it is. Unless we get a transcript of what the league told him last year we'll never really know for certain what the exact truth of the matter is.

[fez]

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks...ercy-Rule.html

League To Discuss Pats Mercy Rule

October 29, 2007 2:31 PM


In order to protect teams from Bill Belichick, the league is considering a rule that would prevent the Patriots from throwing passes longer than five yards once they gain a four-touchdown lead.

If the opposing team makes it a three-score game, the Patriots would be allowed to file an appeal for "more creative routes," but receivers Randy Moss and Wes Welker are no longer allowed to be on the field together in the second half.

League officials hope the new rule, dubbed "The Other Brady Bill," will provide more acceptable final scores, and improve the self-esteem of players across the league. Now, let's see what folks in Washington and Boston are saying about yesterday's 52-7 Patriots victory:

Washington Post reporter Les Carpenter talks about Belichick's hatred for the easy-way out, namely field goals.
Some thoughts from our pals at 100 Pecent Injury Rate.
The Patriots don't want your respect, just your dignity.
What defensive wrinkle did Belichick use yesterday?
Sally Jenkins says Tom Brady has provided Jason Campbell with an excellent blueprint.
Some good thoughts from Tandler's Redkins Blog.
Does Gillette Stadium have the best pregame music in the league?
Here's what Reiss' Pieces brought back from the Redskins' locker room

[pappag]

Like I've said, you clearly haven't watched enough NFL in your life Brock to comprehend how this situation is played out. Talk to any coach at any level, and they will agree with me.

Heh ... Bill Cowher seems to agree:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/p...?urn=nfl,51840


Cowher: Brady could be target of cheap shot
Wednesday, Oct 31, 2007 4:13 pm EDT

As the New England Patriots pour it on opponents, fans have to be wondering about it and Tuesday former Pittsburgh Steelers coach Bill Cowher said it: If the Patriots keep running up the score, will someone like Tom Brady be the victim of a retaliatory hit?

The subject of the Pats' late-game tactics is causing a lot of buzz around the NFL, particularly after Sunday's 52-7 victory over the Washington Redskins. On a CBS conference call with reporters Tuesday. Cowher noted the Patriots could be playing a dangerous game.

"At some point if this continues, someone's going to take a cheap shot,'' Cowher said. "Is that worth subjecting your players to if it comes to that?''

[pappag]

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/f...icleid=1041584


Pats actions may see consequences
By John Tomase | Wednesday, October 31, 2007 | http://www.bostonherald.com | N.E. Patriots

Patriots fans undoubtedly are thinking it, and yesterday former Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Bill Cowher said it: If the Patriots [team stats] keep running up the score, will someone like Tom Brady [stats] pay the price?

The subject of the Pats’ late-game tactics is causing a lot of buzz around the NFL, particularly after Sunday’s 52-7 victory over the Washington Redskins, when the Patriots converted a pair of fourth downs in the fourth quarter and threw for a touchdown on the goal line that made it 45-0.

On a CBS conference call with reporters yesterday, Cowher noted the Patriots could be playing a dangerous game. “It’s risk and reward,” he said. “How long do you want your starters to play? You want to be careful. At some point if this continues, someone’s going to take a cheap shot. Is that worth subjecting your players to if it comes to that? You can say it’s playing football, but those are the decisions you have to make.”

The highest profile target is Brady, who was not lifted until the Pats led 45-0 Sunday.

“I see a football team playing with a tremendous sense of purpose,” Cowher said. “I’m not sure they’re even looking at the scoreboard. The fact that they have the premier player in the game with the margins being what they are, that’s Bill’s (Belichick) prerogative. The risk he’s weighing is that guys could get hurt in those situations. That’s his decision as a coach and he has a right to do it.”

Former quarterback Phil Simms took a slightly different angle. “These are the kind of questions I’d expect to hear in high school and college,” Simms said. “I wouldn’t expect to hear them in the NFL. My first instinct is, instead of (worrying about) running up the score, you’ve just got to do your own business in the NFL.”

[Grange]

Well, first they would have to get to him. I haven't seen a Linebacker get even close to Brady this year.

That may be true, but I remember when the Packer's Charles Martin made an absolutely beautiful tackle, although a few people called it a blatent cheap shot on a worthless quarterback named Jim McMahon several seconds after the play was over.

[Crock]

Yes, I'm a Pats fan. Of course any football fan wants to see their team score as many points as possible. I don't think what they're doing is wrong by any means, but I was talking about this even before the Miami game with some friends here at school. What they're doing is ballsy. Damn ballsy, and I hope that Brady doesn't get that cheap shot, but I wouldn't blame the team that did it. "running up the score" is a rediculous statement though. I dont understand how playing your absolute best can be considered class-less. If this was another team besides the patriots, I dont think there would be as much drama over it. The cheating thing happened yes, but even that was blown out of proportion. To the average joe that knows little to nothing about the game, them getting caught taping sounds like a horrible thing. Everyone does it, the pats were just stupid and were taping from the sidelines. Had the guy w/ the camera been in the stands, there would't have been an issue. But it happened, and they paid the fines. They accepted the responsiblity for it, and are now showing everyone that they can still win without it. I would like to see more of the 2nd string guys come in, but as Josh Beckett said; I dont get paid to make those fucking decisions.

I dont think they will, but I wouldn't be so stupid as to say it couldn't happen: so IF Indy beats New England this weekend, i'll bet that all this talk about running up the score and being unsportsman like will go away, and be replaced with trash talk about the Pats not being that great blah blah blah. It's all a bunch of whining no matter how you look at it.

[Steven S. Dallas]

From today's Boston Globe:

How's this for a four-game stretch of NFL greatness?

W, 49-14

W, 41-10

W, 41-9

W, 51-24

That quartet of one-sided scores comes to you courtesy of the 2004 Indianapolis Colts from a November-December period during which Peyton Manning and Co. annihilated the Texans, Bears, Lions, and Titans, respectively. And, you know it's funny, I don't remember one person whining about them running up the score.

In fact, quite the opposite happened. The Colts were celebrated as the bright and shining star of the NFL. Following the 51-24 win over Tennessee, the Indy Star's Bob Kravitz wrote, "At this point, we're not just watching football anymore. We're watching history. Every week, the Indianapolis Colts' offense uses the football field as its canvas, and every week, it creates an art form that is distinct from everything else in the copycat NFL."

Flash forward almost three years, and the very same Kravitz wrote about the juggernaut New England Patriots, "In the last three weeks, New England has scored 48, 49, and 52 points, inspiring inquiring minds to wonder, 'Did the Patriots pile on?' And every week, the obvious answer is, 'Duh.'"

[fez]

ssd, you got a link for that?

[Steven S. Dallas]

http://www.boston.com/sports/nesn/wi..._several_more/

[pappag]

In 2 of those games, Colts scored only 14 points in the 2nd half. In the Chicago game, they rushed the ball 39 times compare to throwing it 28 times.

From today's Boston Globe:

How's this for a four-game stretch of NFL greatness?

W, 49-14

W, 41-10

W, 41-9

W, 51-24

That quartet of one-sided scores comes to you courtesy of the 2004 Indianapolis Colts from a November-December period during which Peyton Manning and Co. annihilated the Texans, Bears, Lions, and Titans, respectively. And, you know it's funny, I don't remember one person whining about them running up the score.

In fact, quite the opposite happened. The Colts were celebrated as the bright and shining star of the NFL. Following the 51-24 win over Tennessee, the Indy Star's Bob Kravitz wrote, "At this point, we're not just watching football anymore. We're watching history. Every week, the Indianapolis Colts' offense uses the football field as its canvas, and every week, it creates an art form that is distinct from everything else in the copycat NFL."

Flash forward almost three years, and the very same Kravitz wrote about the juggernaut New England Patriots, "In the last three weeks, New England has scored 48, 49, and 52 points, inspiring inquiring minds to wonder, 'Did the Patriots pile on?' And every week, the obvious answer is, 'Duh.'"

[Steven S. Dallas]

Yeah, because they had a running back. Both the Pats RBs are hurt; they're not going to go to Kevin Faulk and Heath Evans 40 times a game. Also, they have to keep throwing to Moss until he scores, or he'll start to sulk. Not like I give a shit whether they run up the score or not, I was fucking pissed when they lost the shutout against DC.

[Crock]

In 2 of those games, Colts scored only 14 points in the 2nd half. In the Chicago game, they rushed the ball 39 times compare to throwing it 28 times.

well on that note, didn't the Pats only score 7 points in the 2nd half against Miami? A winless team...

[pappag]

Yeah, because they had a running back. Both the Pats RBs are hurt[.]

Could've fooled me ... I thought the entire Pats team was injured.

[Brock Landers]

Could've fooled me ... I thought the entire Pats team was injured.

Nope, just the running backs. But since you watch sooo much football I thought youd know that.


By the way, your little theory of "kicking the field goal is whats expected" is total horseshit. Every football analyst and writer Ive heard over the past week has said the same thing: kicking the field goal for the easy 3 points IS running up the score. This includes Bill Parcells, who (on ESPN) said you keep playing until they stop you. No field goals. Because field goals run up the score.

Wrong - kicking the field goal in that situation is the expected thing. Have you not watched a blowout game where one Team A turns the ball over inside their own territory AND puts the Team B in fieldgoal range with a significant time left in the game? Significant meaning if they take a knee 3 times in a row, the clock will have yet to run out.

In case you haven't seen this scenario played out, Team B runs 3 times up the middle and kicks the fieldgoal. What Team B doesn't do (and what I've never seen in my 20+ years watching professional football) is go for it inside the redzone on 4th down late in the game.

I hope the Pats continue such play. Either a valuable player gets injured or they instill that much more motivation for a team with no hope in accomplishing anything for the season. If I was a member of the '72 Dolphins, I would begin ordering vast quantities of champagne.

Like I've said, you clearly haven't watched enough NFL in your life Brock to comprehend how this situation is played out. Talk to any coach at any level, and they will agree with me.

Like Parcells? Is he ok to ask?