Advice on new board, boots, and bindings

**neck beard** · 10-21-2007, 12:50 PM

>Jermey Jones rode a 162

If I regularly rode variable snow at 50+ then I would use a pipe board, not a longer gunny board.

J.Jonse's descents are incredible yes, but there are some times when he appears to be flapping a bit on his ultra fast runouts, looks too fast for the board. He throws some great sequences of tight and hooky speed-control turning in the super steeps and a short board would be good for that...but would let you down if you open it up on less steep. I'll get shot for this.

**boredboiseboy** · 10-21-2007, 01:20 PM

I would get a pair of solomon boots, Burton p1 bindings(great all around bindings if they aren't broken), and a Never Summer or Arbor board, and your set. I would get a good board at the getgo, since snowboarding takes so much less time to progress to where you can reap the benifits of a high end board.

**Sufferfest** · 10-21-2007, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Hohes

>Jermey Jones rode a 162

If I regularly rode variable snow at 50+ then I would use a pipe board, not a longer gunny board.

J.Jonse's descents are incredible yes, but there are some times when he appears to be flapping a bit on his ultra fast runouts, looks too fast for the board. He throws some great sequences of tight and hooky speed-control turning in the super steeps and a short board would be good for that...but would let you down if you open it up on less steep. I'll get shot for this.

Definitely agree with you there. A shorter board is better on really steep terrain and obviously tight terrain. It's much easier to make turns. I ride a 169 and have caught the tail on jump turns on 48 degrees and would have liked a smaller board in those situations. Why would you get shot for that? Was a good comment.

**arild** · 10-22-2007, 12:44 AM

People mentioning sticks as big as 167-169 for you here is ridiculous, as you are a beginner, you are going to ride all mountain, and you weigh the same as I.

I think you should look into Unity and their wide models. Either the Pride 160 if you are going more freeride oriented, or the Origin 160 if you are planning on heading to the park every once in a while. The Pride, unfortunately, has not been tested by me yet, but I own two Origins - a 160 and a 164, and I love them. I do have friends who´ve demoed and loved the Pride, so I´m just going to say that´s a great snowboard too. You don´t need any longer than a 160. At all. Forget that height thing.

Almost forgot I should give you some sort of a review on my Origin(s).
It has high torsional rigidity, but is somewhat softer longitudinal, stable like all hell at speed, easy to ride switch(duh- It´s a true twin), doable on rails, crud crushing (damp), yet springy ("poppy" in everyday snowboarding terms). They have a 2 year warranty, but honestly, I can´t for the life of me seem to think I can break one. Solid stuff, built in CO. It probably retails for 450-480 USD, but look around for closeouts. Both the 05/06 and the 06/07 versions are good. The 07/08 has a thinner core, so it is supposed to be a bit lighter and more flexible. By the way. 160 Origins have 26 cm waist widths, while the 160 Prides have a 26.1 cm waist widths. Both have deep enough sidecuts to allow for size 12 boots.
www.unitysnowboards.com

Bindings for that death plank: Union Forces, costing 199 USD, should fit your bill. Responsive, yet tweakable and forgiving. Quality workmanship. The L/XL has a pretty wide heelcup, which should cater nicely to your twelves.
www.unionbindingcompany.com

Boots: I´m not gonna give you boot recommendations, as your foot is probably different from mine. Many of the previous posters here have mentioned good manufacturers, though.

32, Vans, Salomon, Nitro and Deeluxe are all reputable, quality bootmakers. Spend your money here before dropping tons on board and bindings.

**DBRgoneMBR** · 10-22-2007, 05:20 PM

Thanks for the help

I think I have some really solid boards and bindings to check out. I live about 45 mins away from Los Angeles and the Ski Dazzle show is going to be there at the end of Nov., has anyone been and can you find boards and bindings from Arbor, Neversummer, Union, etc at the show? Are there good deals to be found at Ski Dazzle?

**shmoesmith** · 10-22-2007, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Sufferfest

Definitely agree with you there. A shorter board is better on really steep terrain and obviously tight terrain. It's much easier to make turns. I ride a 169 and have caught the tail on jump turns on 48 degrees and would have liked a smaller board in those situations. Why would you get shot for that? Was a good comment.

That sounds like a technique problem on your end. The only people I see doing jump turns on really steep terrain are people that have never learned the proper technique for turning a board on that steep of a slope. Not saying you are a beginner or anything because 48degrees is fucking steep as hell, but perhaps no one ever showed ya how to do it right?

You should be tipping the nose down the fall line and sweeping or rolling the board around, not trying to jump it. Jumping on terrain like that can be dangerous because it can easily cause a lost edge due to the sudden increased load on the board (especially if it is hard/icy snow). You do it right and your board length really shouldn't matter except that a long board gives you more edge control. I know I'm not describing the technique very well, but sit and watch some big mtn snowboard vids (just finished warren miller's 'ride' which was excellent and tons of snowboarding). In the vids, you will see what i'm talking about with pointing down the fall line and sweeping the tail around. The only time you should have to jump it is if it is too tight to slide your board around

Watch this video from the 2 minute mark and it will show you both from a outside shot and a helmet cam shot exactly what I'm talking about. Note how he directs the board down the fall line, then sweeps the tail around..

**DBRgoneMBR** · 10-23-2007, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by DBRgoneMBR

Thanks for the help

I think I have some really solid boards and bindings to check out. I live about 45 mins away from Los Angeles and the Ski Dazzle show is going to be there at the end of Nov., has anyone been and can you find boards and bindings from Arbor, Neversummer, Union, etc at the show? Are there good deals to be found at Ski Dazzle?

Bump for the ski dazzle ?^

**shmoesmith** · 10-23-2007, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by DBRgoneMBR

Bump for the ski dazzle ?^

never heard of it...but NS, Arbor, Union...they are board companies that only make boards and not bindings. Stick with Burton P1's, Some Salomons, or some Rides for bindings.

**Blurred** · 10-23-2007, 02:48 PM

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**TahoePowShredder** · 10-23-2007, 04:11 PM

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**DBRgoneMBR** · 10-23-2007, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by shmoesmith

never heard of it...but NS, Arbor, Union...they are board companies that only make boards and not bindings. Stick with Burton P1's, Some Salomons, or some Rides for bindings.

I was referring to Union bindings, sorry for the confusion.

**DBRgoneMBR** · 10-23-2007, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by BlurredElevens

WHY DO YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKERS KEEP DISCUSSING THIS HERE?!

WE HAVE A FORUM CALLED TECH TALK

USE IT YOU STUPID FUCKS BEFORE I DOUCHE THIS ONE OUT WITH GOATSE.

DUMB FUCKING JONGS

Because like you I love to piss off internet dorks