WWMD? 'Toons w/ P18? Possible?

**schindlerpiste** · 10-17-2007, 07:14 AM

I have two pair of unmounted skis, and 2 pair of bindings.
Skis: 188 BROs; 189 Pontoons
Bindings: PX140 w/ 100mm brakes; P18 (unbent).

I can just mount the PX14 on the BROs, and there will be no need for bending. The problem is that the P18s have very short brakes. I'm not sure that it is even possible to fit 130mm skis. Sure, I can always bend the PX14s to fit 130mm, but then I will also have to bend the P18s to fit the BROs.

WWMD?

**hemas** · 10-17-2007, 07:28 AM

Well, I'm planning on mounting my FKS155's (= same binder 'cept the springs as P18) on Praxis. I've eyeballed the brakes and I should be able to bend 'em to fit the ~135mm waist of Praxis, and yes they will be short...

But then again, brakes are not that useful if you take a big blunder in pow anyway. And I'm sure you won't be skiing 'toons on hardback days.

**schindlerpiste** · 10-17-2007, 07:30 AM

H: The binders go out to you today. I agree, brakes are not needed, but if I don't have them, I no get on tram or gondi. ...Life's a bitch

**hemas** · 10-17-2007, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by schindlerpiste

H: The binders go out to you today. I agree, brakes are not needed, but if I don't have them, I no get on tram or gondi. ...Life's a bitch

Do as I'm doing, bend the P18 brakes... They'll be short, but you'll still have "brakes" to satisfy the gondola-nazis.

And cheers, let me know how much the shipping was/is and I'll PayPal ya the dough (PM yer PayPal-addy as well).

**bossass** · 10-17-2007, 11:56 AM

You can order a wide brake for them PXs, from rossi maybe, that'll fit around toons.

**milkman** · 10-17-2007, 12:00 PM

untracked.com has a 125mm wide brake for the px's....

**arem86** · 10-17-2007, 12:34 PM

P18 brakes should be able to fit around 130mm, as mentioned though, they will be short.

Another option is to cut the brake arms (for this I recommend finding an old turntable clamp for $10 at a ski swap/thrift store and putting those in place of your brakes) and use a pow leash. Sounds scary but worked out fine for me with Prophet 130s.

**schindlerpiste** · 10-17-2007, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by milkman

untracked.com has a 125mm wide brake for the px's....

True, but then I still have to bend the P18s for the 188 BROs. Why spend coin, and bend the P18s, when I could not spend $ and bend the P18s?

50 clams for brakes seems redicerous!!!

**GapersGoHome** · 10-17-2007, 02:05 PM

i say go brakeless... ski leashes.

**schindlerpiste** · 10-17-2007, 02:53 PM

That's not even funny

**FFsup** · 10-17-2007, 03:05 PM

Leashes attached to your skis? Well atleast you'll be anchored well in the event of an avy..

Or does the leash you are referring to have some sort of "release", that is weak spot, which will break under load?
Or do you just not attach yourself to the leach?

Just curious, never seen anyone use this type of equip.

VC · 10-17-2007, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by GapersGoHome

i say go brakeless... ski leashes.

Who needs that femoral artery anyway?

**Buzzworthy** · 10-17-2007, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by schindlerpiste

I have two pair of unmounted skis, and 2 pair of bindings.
Skis: 188 BROs; 189 Pontoons
Bindings: PX140 w/ 100mm brakes; P18 (unbent).

I can just mount the PX14 on the BROs, and there will be no need for bending. The problem is that the P18s have very short brakes. I'm not sure that it is even possible to fit 130mm skis. Sure, I can always bend the PX14s to fit 130mm, but then I will also have to bend the P18s to fit the BROs.

WWMD?

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**Bandit Man** · 10-17-2007, 08:46 PM

I put 914's on my Pontoons and bent the brakes per Marshall's handle bar bending video. Worked great. It is true that the brakes do little to stop the skis, but they do wonders keeping them together when carrying the skis.

**jonski** · 10-17-2007, 09:40 PM

I'd reckon that the added beef of the 18's will be more relevant on the BROs as this would be a 'charging in boney-er conds" ski looking at the options you have. That would lead to more potential need for the burl of the 18s, whilst the Toons are for playful powdays, and staying in is important, but less of a 'beat the shit out of them' kinda way.

If that makes sense...

sure you could find wides for cheaper than that too, if you look around

**Altaholic** · 10-18-2007, 02:19 AM

I've been wondering the same thing, cause I wanna buy the Moment Comis at some point this winter before they sell out, and I picked up an extra pair of Rossi FKS 185s just in case at a good deal cause. I bought 'em cause it was now or never a couple months back 'cause they are now extinct in ski shops for the most part

. Having them together in the 'Bird Tram line makes them MUCH easier to carry.

**GapersGoHome** · 10-20-2007, 02:32 PM

To clarify my earlier post... Use some long powder leashes, not attached to your person. They're tucked into your pant legs... Skis come off, leashes trail out of your pant leg... a bit of the ribbon from the leash stays above the snow (in theory)...

Yes, that would be quite dumb, in the event of an avy. You're thinking like tele leashes attached to your boots...