Rossi Skis - Recommendation needed

**powstash** · 10-08-2007, 02:44 PM

So I've got my choice of any Rossi ski this winter. It's a trade for work thing. Haven't skied Rossi for years so I'd like some input.

Edit: For those who commented (thanks, I appreciate it) I am 6'4" and 195 (an happily married

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Current Quiver with waist sizes:

BD Havoc w/Dynafits (88) - skiing coolers and long tours
Karhu Jaks w/Dynafits (97) - touring
Bluehouse District w/Dynafits (104) - touring deep pow
Scott P4 with Tyrolia (104) - Resort

Knowing that I will be using this ski inbounds 90% of the time with the occasional bootback, given that I like the P4's and seeing that my bc quiver is dialed, I was thinking my options are: (oh yea, I'm in Utah FYI)

Bandit B100 Quad
Bandit B94's
Scratch Scream'in (88 waist)
Scratch Brigade (98 waist)

Or the redonculously wide Scratch Steeze (110)

Got an opinion?

**Eds** · 10-08-2007, 02:53 PM

The scratch steeze's look pretty nimble despite their size. You might want to try for the Raven instead, the steeze looks like pollock designed the topsheet.

**trainnvain** · 10-08-2007, 02:54 PM

I skied rossi for some time (no more). 88 and 98 scratches have lost all of their inbounds feel when they started with the WRS crap. I'd rather have the weight.
B94 will feel great for 20 to 30 days and then be mush.
B100 (184? Right?) will feel stiff upon initial flex but will break in in a month or so.
Over 175lbs=B100
Under 175lbs= The underrated B94 (I was just too heavy at 195 for this ski)

**Kya** · 10-08-2007, 06:11 PM

I'd say go with the fattest, the Raven, same ski as the Steeze, since your missing that megafat in your quiver. Then if you really like it for pow, put one of the Dynafits on them. Sick.

OR

Get the biggest stiffest Rossi they make and never turn again. Sick.

**Caucasian Asian** · 10-08-2007, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Eds

The scratch steeze's look pretty nimble despite their size. You might want to try for the Raven instead, the steeze looks like pollock designed the topsheet.

Who is pollock and why is he making topsheet designs? I thought pollock was a fish that was used for making fake crab.

**leroy jenkins** · 10-08-2007, 06:44 PM

Two routes to go, ski you'll like the best, ski with the highest resale value.

Highest retail value would probably be 189 Squads.

Ski I'd get just to ski, given your current quiver, would be the Raven/Steeze, to have something great for the deep powder days, or possibly the longer squads.

**Ira** · 10-08-2007, 07:02 PM

PowStash,

just how big an ol' boy are ya? (Roy D Mercer?)

Being a Rossi fan myself, I would go for the 184 B10 Quads or the new steeze. I've skied both now and they are pretty fun skis, but I'm a pretty big dude and ski somewhat hard and aggressive with only a little stupid $hit tossed in. I've never skied the narrower scratch skis, so no comment there.

I actually like the new WRS on the scratch series, so YMMV. the new Steeze/.Raven will be a fun ski for big days and the B100 will be OK on powder, will chew up the crud and go just a little fast on the groomers. it is NOT as stiff as the B104 skis...

I would not get the B94, as even though you have no skis that size, you have other skis with that performance level (the Jak if they are newer with the power claws...)

jsut my 2 cents

Ira

**300hp** · 10-08-2007, 07:45 PM

normally i'd say steeze but thats a ton of overlap with the p4, which I consider a great resort ski. The brigade was one of my favorite skis I tested last year. I thought it was nimble, light and snappy. Felt like a seth with more life out of the turn. I would mount those with a lightweight binding for groomer/light snow/everyday conditions. They don't have the metal your p4s do so they should be a different enough ski to really compliment things.
Hunter

**brutah** · 10-08-2007, 07:58 PM

The only options in my opinion are the quads or the steeze. These would satisfy the deep pow need in your quiver. The steeze will be softer, but will like to turn more so than the quads.

you could also go skinny but the scream'in was too soft for me, way too soft (I'm at 200#)

I think you should just walk over to the rossi headquarters and get one of their pro only (beefier) quads

**Eds** · 10-08-2007, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by Caucasian Asian

I thought pollock was a fish that was used for making fake crab.

Really? I didn't know that. I meant jackson pollock, painter extraordinaire.

**scottyskisnow** · 10-08-2007, 08:28 PM

Dude go for the steeze because they are the most awesome skis out there on the market!!!!!!!!!!!! ohh yeah steeze are sick!!!!

**verbier61** · 10-09-2007, 01:47 AM

I'd say squads, the bigger the better. Anything else is already in your quiver.
Last winter I had a chance to get a pair of SUPERcheap 189 squads pro, and they are very interesting skis on any kind of not-soft snow. They're demanding (but not as much as anticipated) and you have a good chance to become a better skier simply by trying to use them at the top of your possibility. Do not try powder with them, though, IMVHO it's not that fun...

**philippeR** · 10-09-2007, 01:59 AM

Well, since everyone here is advocating fat or fatter... what's missing in your quiver is a groomer zipper :
Either a Z9 (a very fine carver that will handle some crud allright) or the real deal : a Rx IBox World Cup in 191 cm

/ gaper

On the fatter side of things, and without any knowledge of your skiing, I'd vote steeze, on good look alone.
(what you don't say either is wether or not you need to replace one of your ski, or to complement your quiver).

**addict** · 10-09-2007, 02:09 AM

Squad 104 is fun. How big are you? At 175-180 myself I found the 194s great on hardpack/variable and not that floaty, but still ok in soft. The shark nose thing and the mounting position annoyed me though for a while. They excelled in bumps. They're the only new Rossi ski I've tried and they seem to be significatly different from anything else in your quiver. The steeze would be fun but maybe a little too much like the P4 like 300hp said.

**SiSt** · 10-09-2007, 03:01 AM

Well, since everyone here is advocating fat or fatter... what's missing in your quiver is a groomer zipper :
Either a Z9 (a very fine carver that will handle some crud allright) or the real deal : a Rx IBox World Cup in 191 cm

2nded.

Funny enough, I just bought a pair of those real deal skis, in 191 w/ fks 185s second hand. Can´t wait for a real icy day...

**fonixmunkee** · 10-09-2007, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by powstash

Bandit B94's

Fun ski. Total all-around ripper, not for jibbing. When I pick an inbounds ski, I like to go with something more twin tip-ish so I can jib or rip, depending on how I feel. Still, a great ski for tearing around on.

Originally Posted by powstash

Scratch Brigade (98 waist)

My favorite Rossi ski I demoed last year. I spent most of my time on this one. The perfect blend of jib ski and ripping stick. I really enjoyed this one. The closest ski to the old Scratch skis of yore.

**Jim J** · 10-09-2007, 07:43 AM

When you are skiing your P4's in bounds, is there ever a situation where you wish you had a different ski? The P4 sounds pretty much perfect for in bounds in Utah. I really don't understand why people are recommending you get a Brigade or Steeze when they are both twin tips that are +/- 6mm of the P4. I'd say get a gift for your wife, kid, dad or random internet person.

Unless of course of think you need a Squad to charge harder or want a skinny ski.

**SkiED** · 10-09-2007, 09:27 AM

squad, easy choice such a better skiing ski then the steeze.. at least my opinion when I demoed

Squatch · 10-09-2007, 12:38 PM

i'd go raven myself

**cmsummit** · 10-09-2007, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Squatch

i'd go raven myself

2nded...

**Tye 1on** · 10-09-2007, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by powstash

given that I like the P4's and seeing that my bc quiver is dialed...

Got an opinion?

Quiver ain't broke, needs no fixin. Rossi Xium skate skis. For those days when the powder ain't handy, it's a bluebird day, and you're thinkin, damn, I oughta be out there on such a nice day. Also killer for crust cruisin in the spring

[always the contrarian...

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**truth** · 10-19-2007, 08:33 PM

Since you're looking for a resort only stick and you have and like the P4's I think you need to go with something for "uber firm it hasn't snowed in two weeks" snow. The P4 is plenty wide for the deepest inbounds days and would most likely be the ski you shoulder for short bootpacks no? Now, if you think the P4 is your hardpack choice you should go uber fat and mount em with Duke's which would give you another touring option as well since your widest rig really isn't that wide.

**soul_skier** · 10-19-2007, 08:55 PM

get the steeze/raven, flip it here, ebay, craigslist, whatever, take ~500 bucks to invest in a sled = tons of uinta fun

**[expletive deleted]** · 10-19-2007, 10:37 PM

Just 2¢ from this JONG, but...

Consider the 184 Quad, I have the one from last year (a little stiffer than this year's) and I prefer it to the 189 Squad (haven't tried the 194). It's a little narrower in the waist and a teeny bit wider in the tail which makes it a tad turnier. If you want a good all rounder, it's more versatile than the stiffer squads, and the softness helps it float a little better, more than compensating for the narrower waist and shorter length.

(For my weight, this ski can still charge, but I'm 5'7" 155lbs, so YMMV)