A good all mtn. twin that's long but not too fat, does it exist?

[hemas]

Good luck with that width waist. A Mojo 90 in the 193 is the closest thing, and many have mentioned that already, but it has a 90-mm (or rather 89-mm) waist.

Guess you didn't click on the AK4 link... 182cm, full twin, stiff allmountainflex and yes, 83mm in the waist.

[Bandit Man]

Guess you didn't click on the AK4 link... 182cm, full twin, stiff allmountainflex and yes, 83mm in the waist.

He said 188-cm would be the low end for length, so I was trying to factor that in too. If you go in the shorter 180 lengths, I agree that your choices open up.