Fuck you Lime Creek

[Storm11]

Broken helmet, split lip, dislocated shoulder and an 8 mile hike out in the rain/dark. Fuck you Lime Creek.




There goes the majority of my season.

[Conundrum]

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Lame dude. Don't know if this will help but it's probably the worst water year I've seen in a long time here so I'm riding more than paddling.

[cmsummit]

sending some +++++++vibes++++++ your way.

that sux, sorry to hear. 1st gorge?

[ridinshockgun]

That's a serious beatdown. How did it happen?

[Storm11]

3rd gorge.... actually it was two separate incidences. First one was on Landslide rapid, got pushed into the river left wall, flipped, ran most of it upside down and had one major impact to my helmet/face. Further down (almost to the junction point with the upper Animas) I flipped going through some manky little boulder garden and felt my shoulder slip just as I was going over...not sure exactly what happened. Had to ditch our boats at the train stop at Cascade on the Upper A and hike out along the train tracks through the Rockwood cut. Didn't get back to the car until 9:30.

I don't think that I did any permanent damage, since it didn't really hurt very much when it went out and came back in a minute or so later. I think I would have had some pretty intense pain if I would have torn my rotator cuff or the like...Definately started hurting after it was relocated and is pretty stiff and sore today

[crackboy]

sounds like you just sublexed the joint. i have done that several times not through kayaking more than likely you will be sore for abit, but a couple weeks you should be back to normal.


its definitely a weird feeling. if pain persists, you might have torn something , but there is a good chance you did not.

[cmsummit]

yeah, I dislocated my right shoulder about 6 years ago kayaking. The pain is fucking intense! I had never had any shoulder problems before, but luckily I had taken a WFR course and remembered how to reduce a dislocated shoulder. I coached my buddies through it a few times on my good shoulder until I thought they had the movement down, then took a stick and bit down. It popped back in and I was able to hop on a raft down to the takeout. I ended up having to get surgery on it the next spring as I tore a bunch of the rotator cuff and couldn't get it to stay in place even while skiing.

Storm, I hope you didn't tear anything, cause it takes a long time after surgery for it to get back to feeling 100%.

[Yonder_River]

Dang, sorry to hear about that...I didn't realize Lime was running already. Dislocating a shoulder is my worst fear, sorry you had to realize it. Hope it works out ok for you.

We had some carnage on Icicle Creek this weekend too. Out of a group of ten, we had a girl with broken teeth shoved into her gums, three swimmers including a permanently folded and pinned boat in a sieve, and then a vertical bow pin (with me inside). Yay, here's to good river karma for all of us please.

[wannabe]

Storm,

Sorry to hear about the shoulder, I have sublexed my shoulder way too many times.
I would recomend getting it checked, and doing some pt on it.

Since it moved out of position you might not have torn anything but you definately stretched some things out, with some good pt you should be able to tighten everything back up.

Maybe not paddling class V again this year tight but at least paddling in a month tight.

If you have any specific questions feel free to pm me. and yes I did have surgery 2 years ago and it was well worth it.

[crackboy]

i second the PT. i avoided surgery by doing PT after sublexing many a times.

if you don't want to get PT, focus on exercises that work the muscles around your shoulder joint. i wrote up my pt regime a bit back for someone else, i can try and dig it up if youd like

[Storm11]

Yeah, any recovery/exercise advice would be great. I've been looking into rotator cuff strengthening exercises and had just started doing them a week or so before my dislocation. It was basically a set of three different dumbbell exercises: one lying on bed/couch with my elbow on my side, lifting the bell vertically while my arm was at a 90 degree angle. One resting my elbow on the bed while sitting on the floor, arm at a 90 degree angle and lifting the weights off the bed, rotating my arm until it was vertical and the weights were near my ear. The third was standing up, lifting the weights from next to my hip straight out and away from my waist with my thumb pointed down.

Any other good exercises? Obviously I'll be waiting a few more days before I start doing anything other than ROM stuff, but I'd like to have a plan for getting back in the game.

[crackboy]

yea, the ones i have are of the same line. i will see if i can find them

[Mybad!]

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Lame dude. Don't know if this will help but it's probably the worst water year I've seen in a long time here so I'm riding more than paddling.

Just curious, why do you think that? It will probably be shorter than usual but still fun. Of course I ain't paddlin Lime Creek so that may be my answer right there. Ark is already at 1000 and Golden has been fun in the 400's.

[Yonder_River]

Just curious, why do you think that? It will probably be shorter than usual but still fun. Of course I ain't paddlin Lime Creek so that may be my answer right there. Ark is already at 1000 and Golden has been fun in the 400's.

I'd assume it's because he's in Idaho. Most the Rockies are low in snowpack besides certain pockets (including the Front Range).

[RootSkier]

Yeah, any recovery/exercise advice would be great.

If you have insurance, I would definitely go see a PT as much as you can. They will give you therabands (big rubber bands) and show you tons of exercises that will strengthen and stabilize your shoulder.

[Storm11]

No insurance at the moment, but I've got several therabands from my numerous knee rehabs. What tension (color) should I start with and what exercises?

[crackboy]

i personally never liked the therabands. i would get a couple of sub ten pound dumb bells.


i am looking for those exercises still. i might have to wring my brain out and try and remember.

[seldon]

I've subluxed my shoulder upwards of 15 times playing lacrosse. Make sure you do the shoulder exercises with weights of no more than 5 or 10 pounds - if you feel the "big" muscles engage (deltoids/traps/etc) you're using too much - the idea is to use little enough weight that your body only uses the small muscles in your rotator cuff. Here are a couple that I've done:

1- Hold you hands at your sides with your palms facing out (turned around backwards) with 5 pound dumbells. Raise them up at a 45 degree angle, like \/ if you get what I'm saying, until your arms are a little less than horizontal... you'll be able to feel the point as you don't want your shoulder to move up and out of its socket as it has to when you go overhead.

2 - using 10 pound (or less if you feel the big muscles engaged) plates held in each hand, bring them up in front of you (straight in front, palms down), out to the side, and then lean forward and do a reverse fly with them. Do 3x15.

3 - using a cable station/lying on your side/therabands, do internal and external rotations. start with your lower arm horizontal, in line with your torso and pull it to 90 degrees (internal). then turn around, so your lower arm is horizontal across your torso, and pull it to 90 degrees (external).

4- Once the pain is totally gone and maybe you're out of season, you can start doing military press type exercises to build muscle mass around the joint. i'd talk to a PT before you do this, as if you use too much weight/aren't recovered enough you can get the weight above your head and have your shoulder come out, which HURTS and totally sucks cause you go way backwards as every time your shoulder comes out it gets easier for it to come out again as the ligaments are stretched out and your rotator cuff accumulates small tears.

Best of luck!

[Storm11]

Finally got back in my boat yesterday...3 weeks to the day since I popped my shoulder. Been doing a bit of rehab and pounding Glucosamine. Shoulder feels good, not 100%, but good. Hit 5-6 rolls no problem (good thing its my offside shoulder) with no pain. Still a bit hesitant, especially surfing, but it felt damn good to finally take out the brand new CR 125 thats been sitting in my hallway since 2 days after my accident.
Doubt I'll be getting into much IV or V for the rest of the year, but atleast I'm back in the water. Stoked!