Running, Anyone...?

[nutmegchoi]

Thank you!

Went to the gym last night for the first time since December.
Only walked a mile, 10 min elliptical, PT exercise, strength and stretch.
Total of an hour low intensity exercise but felt great to be back.

Tonight again!

Meanwhile, got to catch up some MotoGP races.

[willywhit]

[QUOTE=nutmegchoi;5342796]Thank you!

Went to the gym last night for the first time since December.
Only walked a mile, 10 min elliptical, PT exercise, strength and stretch.
Total of an hour low intensity exercise but felt great to be back.

Tonight again!

Meanwhile, got to catch up some MotoGP races.



what's funny is, Valleygirl, the OP of this thread, is a good friend, living in florida , newly married, rides bikes, plays golf, she's awesome

[GeezerSteve]

My running days are over. The legacy begins:

[doebedoe]

Ran my first half yesterday. Lots of fun. Perfect cool race-day weather.

What went well:

- Most of my not-too-formal training. Got sick 2 weeks out and lost a week of training completely. Taper week included a couple short 2-3mi on a sore throat. Race day felt good though.
- Nutrition / hydration. Laid off the booze the day prior, ate 2hrs pre run + a gel 15 minutes before the start. Bits of water every two miles and a gel a mile 8 and felt good through the whole thing. I should've trained with eating a gel midrace as it made for a wonky 1/4mi.
- Overall time. Signed up with expected time of 2:00. Ran 1:57.

Lessons learned:

- Just because you never have issues with nipples in a training run, doesn't mean race day will be the same. Didn't realize I was bleeding through my shirt until a friend pointed it out after the finish. So....there goes my finish photos.
- Pacing. Ran a heavily negative split (9:13 out, 8:41 back.) I prefer running with no devices (watch, phone etc) but I should probably get a watch of some kind to use from time to time to better understanding my pace.
- I need to learn how to ignore other runners. Multiple times during the race I found myself finding someone with good form, and smooth pacing and following them for a few miles. Likely cost myself a few minutes which isn't a big deal in a run I was doing just for fun. But the competitive itch tells me I gave up a few minutes for not running at my pace that would put me at my limit.
- Time to upgrade my shoes. Got multiple comments about them. Apparently 5+ year old shoes from DSW aren't ideal.
- Racing is fun.

Recommendations on how to work on pace without ear-buds and ideally without a cellphone? Casio watch + well known mile markers? A simple GPS watch (time, distance, pace) without a ton of bells and whistles I suppose could be justified since I'd use it on bike rides as well.

Is it reasonable to think I can find a decent shoe that will work well-ish for both trail runs and street runs? I'd like to add some trail into the mix, but most runs will still be on the street. Think 80 street / 20 trail.

[Cruiser]

^^^ Hell yes! That's the good stuff right there.

I got 2 hours in yesterday as well (though much more slowly than yours) and the conditions here along the front range were perfect. Cool, overcast, light breezes... In retrospect I should have gotten out earlier because I got home after 2 hours and felt like I could have gone another hour. Not even a little sore today which, for me at least, is a good indicator that I was keeping the pedal up off the floor.

[nutmegchoi]

Solid work for your first half!

My first half was 2:25 and I thought I was gonna die.
I didn’t start having fun til my second half and that’s when I thought I could run a full.

I have Garmin Forerunner 235, but I assume you don’t want to spend that kinda money.
Amazon seemed to have cheaper options, but accuracy and durability is unknown.

[doebedoe]

I'm lucky that I'm pretty much built as a runner even if I've never utilized it: 6'2", trim, and silly long legs. (Like, I ride 65cm bike frames happily legs.) My effort to run 1:57 is probably similar to avg persons 2:20.

Wondering if I can find a not-to-horrible watch strap for my Edge 520 Garmin GPS bike computer. Or something in the $100 range. Or a $30 casio plus gmaps-pedometer.

Part of why I've enjoyed this running / training is getting away from phone, or any distractions. Just shoes, shirt, hat (and sometimes dog) and out for a run. The device would be for helping know what an 8:30mile feels like vs 9:00.

[nutmegchoi]

I'm lucky that I'm pretty much built as a runner even if I've never utilized it: 6'2", trim, and silly long legs. (Like, I ride 65cm bike frames happily legs.) My effort to run 1:57 is probably similar to avg persons 2:20.

Now that’s not even fair.
I’m 5’3” with 28” inseams.
So you know how many more strides I need to add to run the same distance???!!!

[doebedoe]

My SO feels the same way.

Ran this race at her recommendation. She went from couch - 1/2 marathon in 2:40 in about 3-4months of training. Lost a bunch of weight along the way. Very focused training regime. Meanwhile I had a loose training regime of runs with the dog and longer runs on the weekends. I get no end of shit from her about how easy I have it.

I maintain that it's the cross training that helps. An hour on the bike every day to work. Plus 2-3 days of Mtbing/hiking/ski touring every week. But physical gifts are no doubt a big part of it.

[east or bust]

Right on man.


Finally finding my stride. Ha. Or maybe just getting to the point where the runner's high kicks in during the actual run instead of after I'm finished. I always wondered how my bud could run cross in college, now I kind of get it. I need to pick a half to enter at the end of the summer.

[hutash]

Either train properly, or just run for fun and forget technology. It sounds like you want to improve your times, so the first option is out, so embrace the runners world technology. Get a set if r
Earbugs, carry your phone, down load a Sunni g app and get a heart rate monitor, all can be done pretty cheaply. With that and some online training you likely can drop a shit load of time.

I don't want to actually train, so I just run and hope for the best. Got my last 1/2 down to 1:42, not bad for an old fucked. No doubt I could be much better, but that means work and not stopping for beers at the half way point of runs.

[2bjenny]

I agree with Nutmeg! That's not fair! The last time I ran the Boston half, a good friend of ours ran his first half. Built like a runner, never really trained and finished just behind the elites. I think he was like 75th out of a field of about 3000! My first was around 2:40 and I think my last, and fastest was around 2:20. Now I am just slow and don't really care. Unfortunately, my chronic hamstring tendonitis has flared up and I am too stubborn to totally rest it. Just jog slow and baby it. 25K trail run in 3 weeks!

[nutmegchoi]

Short girls united.

[nutmegchoi]

I'm lucky that I'm pretty much built as a runner even if I've never utilized it: 6'2", trim, and silly long legs. (Like, I ride 65cm bike frames happily legs.) My effort to run 1:57 is probably similar to avg persons 2:20.

Wondering if I can find a not-to-horrible watch strap for my Edge 520 Garmin GPS bike computer. Or something in the $100 range. Or a $30 casio plus gmaps-pedometer.

Part of why I've enjoyed this running / training is getting away from phone, or any distractions. Just shoes, shirt, hat (and sometimes dog) and out for a run. The device would be for helping know what an 8:30mile feels like vs 9:00.

Alright, doebedoe.
It’s your lucky day today.

I have a Suunto T1 with heart rate monitor strap that I don’t use anymore.
Currently batteries are dead, but should be good to go with fresh ones.

Do some research if you want these first.
Just pay for the shipping and it’s yours.

[mcski]

Sweet score. If he doesn't want it I do!

[nutmegchoi]

Also, I have couple year old women’s size 7.5 Brooks Adrenaline I only wore couple times total of 24 miles.
Anyone wants these, pay shipping and they are yours for free.

[carpathian]

I just got back to AK last week and found time to total some number from last 2 quarters (26 weeks) in south kona.

So I've been going on theory of shorter distances but higher intensity as training for the long game ie ironman distance triathlon coming up in mid July.

In doing that I've focused on 90% hill work usually at 10-12% grade.

I would only force my self to run flats to keep stride stretched out and not her muscle bound. Speaking of which I'm 6' 1" and exactly year ago I was at 230 as of testerday at 194

Vert totals on foot: 56,200

Miles on foot 335 over 55 hours

Miles on bike 550 over 40 hours and 20,000 vert

40 hours swim all open water 80 miles

Total train time 136 hours which averages to only 5.25 hours a week !

Liters of sweat : 450 +\-

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK236237/

It honestly felt like more and in last quarter. I spiked with a few weeks of 12 hours.

So the big difference coming here as I'm all the sudden working commercial construction 50-70 hours a week which I am using to my advantage as training mind for the long game...

[carpathian]

I been doing this Hawaii Training and Adventure blog for a bit now. Captures life in the islands

Young Gunz S2 E4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_mHwx6yZTA

S2 E5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59SWlZhhlDI

S2 E6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkc359c7984

One more HI episode in the works then back to AK!

[2bjenny]

Short girls united.

I totally stand with you! However, I feel like I do have to admit that I am 5'11", but I am with you!

[nutmegchoi]

I totally stand with you! However, I feel like I do have to admit that I am 5'11", but I am with you!

5’11”? 5’11”??
Even air’s different up there!
Heck, I may get altitude sick being that high up!!

I thought we were in this together, Jenny.
I don’t know how I feel about this...

Thanks for the support, anyways.
I feel extremely alone right now.

[doebedoe]

Alright, doebedoe.
It’s your lucky day today.

I have a Suunto T1 with heart rate monitor strap that I don’t use anymore.
Currently batteries are dead, but should be good to go with fresh ones.

Do some research if you want these first.
Just pay for the shipping and it’s yours.

Sweet score. If he doesn't want it I do!

McSki gets dibs. I've succumbed and found an inexpensive GPS watch. Thanks for the sweet offer!

[nutmegchoi]

McSki gets dibs. I've succumbed and found an inexpensive GPS watch. Thanks for the sweet offer!

Fair enough.
Good luck with your new gadget.

[2bjenny]

5’11”? 5’11”??
Even air’s different up there!
Heck, I may get altitude sick being that high up!!

I thought we were in this together, Jenny.
I don’t know how I feel about this...

Thanks for the support, anyways.
I feel extremely alone right now.

Sorry, yes 5ft 11 in. Don’t worry, it’s not easy usually being the tallest girl around.

[hutash]

5'11" is short for a woman in my family. My wife is 6'2" my youngest daughter is 5'11", and my short daughter if 5'10".

[2bjenny]

Cool! My mom is quite a bit shorter than me, but my dad is over 6 ft. It's completely random in our family. My nephew is only 15, 6'3" and still growing! I feel sorry for him right now - he's growing so fast that his legs hurt all the time.