Running, Anyone...?

[mikemcee]

If anybody's internet following the NYC Marathon - - 15858.

#1170 for me...looks like it should be good running weather.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

kicking around the idea of a last minute dualthlon in prospect park next weekend.. i've never done a duathlon before but assume it's not much different than a plain ole tri .

dooooo it.

duathalons are a little different than tri's in that your legs get hammered more.

2 runs + 1 bike = more fatigued legs during the last leg than 1 swim + 1 bike + 1 run (at least for my non-Ironman completing ass)

[BeanDip4All]

speaking of marathons in NYC this weekend, come on out to the US Men's Olympic Marathon trials! This is it - one race, the top 3 go to beijing.

Saturday morning in the park. I'll be volunteering somewhere.

-steve

earl and i are going to watch! where are you going to be? maybe we'll swing by to say hello

anyone done the catalina island marathon (viva, i know you have, kinda)... just signed up for that one March 15th... psyched, the race sounds awesome, all trails and hills. Gotta figure out how to train for killer hills here in flatsville. can NOT take any more Harlem Hill repeats!

[mikemcee]

Van Cortlandt Park rocks for nice rolling/hilly terrain.

earl and i are going to watch! where are you going to be? maybe we'll swing by to say hello

anyone done the catalina island marathon (viva, i know you have, kinda)... just signed up for that one March 15th... psyched, the race sounds awesome, all trails and hills. Gotta figure out how to train for killer hills here in flatsville. can NOT take any more Harlem Hill repeats!

[Stu Gotz]

BD4A-

Just run the central park loop.

My best marathon times were based on training the loop. I would run the loop at -1 min. marathon pace. Keep dropping your time goals with every week. 1 loop per day keeps the doctor away.

Riverdale is hilly as all get out. The riverdale ramble course is tres difficult.

[BeanDip4All]

BD4A-

Just run the central park loop.

My best marathon times were based on training the loop. I would run the loop at -1 min. marathon pace. Keep dropping your time goals with every week. 1 loop per day keeps the doctor away.

Riverdale is hilly as all get out. The riverdale ramble course is tres difficult.

u sure you don't want to send me to train over in the south bronx? maybe east manhattan? maybe down by the docks off brighton beach

i am SO SICK of running in the park... due to biking there a lot of week days. i barely go there anymore, do a lot of east river & west side highway for long runs.

stu if ya dont mind me asking, what was your best marathon time?

[steve]

u sure you don't want to send me to train over in the south bronx? maybe east manhattan? maybe down by the docks off brighton beach

i am SO SICK of running in the park... due to biking there a lot of week days. i barely go there anymore, do a lot of east river & west side highway for long runs.

stu if ya dont mind me asking, what was your best marathon time?

If you want to train on hills and are sick of the park, ride your bike across the george, lock it up, and run some of the hills in the palisades.

then ride home.

that'll do you..


I won't know where I'll be volunteering until I get there.

I'll SMS you my 20 when they assign it to me..

[Skis]

Evidently, I'm running a pretty big race this Sunday.

Don't you hate it when your high expectations of yourself from months ago get shattered in the meantime? At one point of my training... circa June/July I was thinking that I might be able to shoot for Boston. Alas, the man has been giving it to me lately, so now I'm thinking less "race" and more "run" on Sunday.

If anybody's internet following the NYC Marathon - - 15858.

Run, road trip, run!!

Not quite sure what my number is, but I'm still hoping to go for Boston. Probably not going to happen. I didn't in Chicago last year and this is a harder course. I'll probably finish this one instead of seizing up, though. You stop to take a piss...and you're frozen.

Ever done a marathon before?

[road trip]

Ever done a marathon before?

Hey Skis - - Yup, this is #2 for me. I ran San Francisco last year in 3:50:45 so I'm hoping to top that time this year. I had some pretty wicked IT band issues on the previous one but have been very, very careful this time and (knock on wood) haven't had any problems. Without that, I'm hoping for 3:30:00 this time around but we shall see. Because my training basically got tossed out the window for the past 2 months, I'm not 100% positive where I'm at right now. I did my 20 miles in 2:40:00 so that's given me some confidence.

Wishing I could bottle up all this nervous energy and save it for Sunday!!

[Skis]

SF is a tough course. I did the first half a couple years ago. It's hard to imagine doing another 13 miles after climbing the Presidio, pounding down it and bouncing up and down the Richmond.

3:30 assumes an 8 min pace. If you could do a training run with that pace, you should be able to beat it during the real thing. Good luck!

I'm 4036.

[Stu Gotz]

Best of luck to all of the marathoners this weekend.

One man's opinion - just enjoy the race and forget about hitting split times, etc. It is an event to enjoy. The race has great crowds from mile 21-26, so it kinda stinks if you are really hurting and can't enjoy Fifth Avenue and the Park.

If you do want to qualify for Boston, position yourself in a stall grouping near the front of the race. NYRRC does not "police" stall positions and no one will stop you from hopping into the stall for runners who are going sub 3:00. This will let you get out of the midpack and you will be able to get into a comfortable rhythm early on.

With nice weather predicted in the forecast, 1st Avenue should be absolute bonkers. Soak it in. It is truly awesome.

Good Luck!

[steve]

.. and be glad you didn't qualify for the olympic trials tomorrow!

with a hurricane noel 200 miles away, those 150 hearty souls have 50 mph winds to look forward to.

-steve

[slim]

I was bored enough today to read all 19-pages of this thread. When did everybody and their mother get into long distance running? Suddenly marathons for everyone.

I'll stick with mile repeats until I vomit. Middle Distance is where it's at.

[SkiCougar]

I'll stick with mile repeats until I vomit. Middle Distance is where it's at.

that's the way to do it ! i did 2 marathons and wised up. most the marathoners i know get stress factures, sprains, etc. before about 1/2 the distance races they do.

i say stay in the 10k's and kick out 6 minute miles while doing it. you'll still pass most everybody, stay in shape and can eat practically anything; but won't waste all your free time looping some park for hours.

[Artie Fufkin]

When did everybody and their mother get into long distance running? Suddenly marathons for everyone.

The 1980s????? 490B.C.?????

[Skis]

that's the way to do it ! i did 2 marathons and wised up. most the marathoners i know get stress factures, sprains, etc. before about 1/2 the distance races they do.

i say stay in the 10k's and kick out 6 minute miles while doing it. you'll still pass most everybody, stay in shape and can eat practically anything; but won't waste all your free time looping some park for hours.

People do marathons because it's an achievement. Anyone can run a 10K, few will ever be able to be fast enough to make it really impressive. Most young healthy people can do marathons too, but it requires a lot more work. You do see a lot of people "running" them pretty slowly, though.

Of course, my fast is an actual competitor's slow as hell.

[Viva]

Runner collapses at the Olympic trials. RIP, man.

http://www.thefinalsprint.com/2007/1...-07/#more-5092

[mrryde]

Runner collapses at the Olympic trials. RIP, man.

http://www.thefinalsprint.com/2007/1...-07/#more-5092

RIP

[road trip]

One man's opinion - just enjoy the race and forget about hitting split times, etc. It is an event to enjoy.

This is true - - and this is my plan! Granted, I'll certainly be checking my splits, my plan is to not push it until maybe the very very end. I'm going to have fun first, run for a time a very very distant second.

RIP Ryan Shay (?)

[mnflyfish]

Runner collapses at the Olympic trials. RIP, man.

http://www.thefinalsprint.com/2007/1...-07/#more-5092

My wife thinks she remembers this guy, who was well ahead of anything I could have dreamed of, he was on his way to the airport about the time I was coming up on MM20(at TC Marathon). From the article, he got his qualifier at Twin Cities, hence where my wife thinks she remembers him from. RIP, from readin his Bio in the Star Tribune, he was quite acomplished. I can't find out the info, but I do know most runners that had already qualified ran the 10 mile at Twin Cities this year rather than the full package. I can't imagine trying to put together two world class runs within a month, TC was Oct. 7th. That has to be exremely taxing on a guy. Most of the lead pack in any given race runs 2-3 a year, not 2 a month.

Thoughts and prayers to the family, from the Bio he was married, don't rememer if he had kids. Court! You had to have been out there, any info?

Jay

[BeanDip4All]

I was at the olmpyc trials. it was cool to twacth I will post pics later. (tomrorrow). then we went o t burnch on the lower easy side and then went to my office and thne wenbt to ba r and then to get ssams at momofuko and then to death & company for more driunks i had this awesome one with ginger and fresh raspenberries and whiskey rye!

anyways the olympiuc trials were cool. the guys were facst and look ed like gazzels.

love,
taxomcea dip

[BeanDip4All]

PS- good luck to ruthen runners tunnring tomorrows in the mattrathon! go gary!!!

pps- i will be at mile market 18 handing water out with my triatholng club

[BeanDip4All]

pppsss - ssams are like vietnamize burritos and are really goot

[road trip]

I was at the olmpyc trials. it was cool to twacth I will post pics later. (tomrorrow). then we went o t burnch on the lower easy side and then went to my office and thne wenbt to ba r and then to get ssams at momofuko and then to death & company for more driunks i had this awesome one with ginger and fresh raspenberries and whiskey rye!

anyways the olympiuc trials were cool. the guys were facst and look ed like gazzels.

love,
taxomcea dip

DPPS

[steve]

Thinking about Ryan Hall..

I first heard of him in january when he ran that sub-1hr half-marathon..
Then he did well in his first marathon in london.
and he annihilated the competition at this race.. made it look easy.. even said he could have run faster if he had to..

it made me think..

is ryan hall america's next lance armstrong?

(In the sense that he'll dominate his sport at the world level for years)

-steve