Surly 1X1 Frame

**tenex198** · 04-09-2007, 04:18 PM

The frame that I used for my single speed bike finally gave out and I am now looking to build another. I have been looking at the Surly 1x1 frame set as a replacement. The one thing that I need to figure out is what to use for a rear wheel. On my old bike I had a 8speed rear hub with the Gusset single speed conversion and a surly singleator. On my old frame I had vertical dropouts which required a chain tensioner, and the surly frame has horizontal drop out and just uses their Surly Tuggnut for chain tension. What I am trying to find out is if I will be able to use my old rear wheel, would I have to purchase a freewheel/bmx hub. I am ready to order all the necessary parts, but need to get some clarification on this matter before ordering. Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers

**mntlion** · 04-09-2007, 04:41 PM

loose the chain tensioner and you should be fine.
both frames area 135 spacing for the rear wheel?
both rim brakes?
worst case you might need a new chain (longer) but with loosing the chain tensioner the chain should be shorter and might have to remove a link

**marshalolson** · 04-09-2007, 04:49 PM

what mtnlion said. just pop that old wheel in there and ride. just make sure you have a good QR (cheap shimanos work best IMO), and crush it on there.

**tenex198** · 04-09-2007, 09:24 PM

Would i need to put the tuggnut on the gear side of the wheel, or just run the rear with out a tensioner.

**mntlion** · 04-09-2007, 09:40 PM

no tuggnut needed as you control the chain tension by moving the wheel forward and back in the dropouts.

I hope that you are letting a shop to the changeover. You need a few bike tools (headset press, head set extractor, BB tools, etc) and not that questions like this are bad, just if this is confusing, I can't see you getting other things right on the bike....

**tenex198** · 04-09-2007, 10:08 PM

mntlion: I am just starting to get my feet wet in bike building and repair. I am going to have my local shop take care of the headset and bottom bracket, but I hope to put the rest together on my own. A couple of my friends work at the bike shop that I frequent, so they area always willing to lend a hand on a project. Thanks for all the advice on the parts.

**mntlion** · 04-10-2007, 09:57 AM

sounds like you have a backup plan for the build. between maggots, bike shop and park you should be fine (and will learn a bunch)

FYI: other big advice: take it apart, clean, lube and put back together. Basic steps in making something work.

**LaBelle23** · 04-10-2007, 03:39 PM

I tried using a QR for awhile, but got too aggrevated and went to a bolt-on. My QR cranked down as much as possible would still come loose at least once per ride, usually more.

Are you running it as a rigid? If so, my advice (as long as you aren't so concerned about weight) would be to use some burly wheels/tires.

**tenex198** · 04-10-2007, 05:03 PM

LaBelle: I am going to run the bike rigid, but I will primarily be using it for my town/commuter bike. I hope to keep it low budget in the event that it is stolen, I am not out very much.

**m1e448** · 04-10-2007, 05:09 PM

A tugnut or other tensioner might be nice on the driveside as it would keep you form even having to worry about the qr coming loose. Another option would be to just get a solid bolton axle for the 8 spd shimano hub. Last I knew these ran about $12 new and could probably be found for free in a parts bin.