If you HAD to live in a CITY, which one and why?

**The AD** · 03-14-2007, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by filthyfrenchbum

Even Seattle, while the people have the same mentality as up here, it doesn't have the same mountain and ocean bound, secure, and Canadian feel that Vancouver has.

Translation: no Tim Horton's in Seattle

**runethechamp** · 03-14-2007, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by filthyfrenchbum

I'd take a day of cold rain in Vancouver over a sunny day anytime, because it always means it's snowing in the mountains (1/2 hour away).

Not during late spring/summer/early fall. Then it just rains.

**mr_gyptian** · 03-14-2007, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by FrankZappa

I'm really surprised no one has said Summit yet, cuz it sure seems like a city to me anymore ('cept during mud season).

if your frame of reference is the dark side of the moon. then yes a county with 25000 people could be construed as city-like.

to answer the question, though. Denver, west side. I'd like to say San Fran, but I don't think it would work out.

in Europe, Munich is my favorite.

**PNWbrit** · 03-14-2007, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by runethechamp

Not during late spring/summer/early fall. Then it just rains.

But not very much

**mnflyfish** · 03-14-2007, 05:44 PM

Duluth, MN in the summer/steelhead season and Salt Lake in the winter.

Jay

**bklyn** · 03-14-2007, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by Dromond

You forgot to mention that while you not only need very flexible schedule covering the countless flights booked at the last minute in addition to the cost of living in NYC and possibly numerous day tickets you are talking about needing a pretty enormous salary.

Feel free to call me on that one Trayc. But maybe you're just the most frugal person I've never met? Cool that you make it work, however.

I'm frugal - one way to build wealth is to retain some money in my pocket and to spend wisely. My schedule is also flexible, but I put in many more work hours overall than 9-5ers. Most of my income is earned during the summer.

Some examples from this season.
Purchased early:
WP/Copper pass -already past break even
Colorado card -already past break even
Loveland frequent skier - already past break even
ME Ticket - already past break even
Kirkwood pass - 5 more days to break even - with this weather pattern, may be a bit of a loss

I have taken advantage of the variety these passes offer as well as reciprocal offers in other Intrawest resorts. These passes cost me less than one season pass at Snowbird, Jackson or Squaw.

It's not so hard to plan early for flights if you know you will fly certain holidays and I search frequently for good prices.

I am a member of a ski club, so an early season week (1st of Dec) at Snowmass cost me $480 - ski in ski out lodging and lifts included. Airfare $210 to Denver, shared gas to/from airport $40. Week at Aspen/Snowmass = $730.

Recently I caught that great storm at Steamboat, a week during peak season: lodging $425, lifts -covered with pass, air = 210, gas $ offered but not accepted so I bought breakfast $20. Best week of powder in my life @ Steamboat $655. I broke even on the pass at that point but we could throw in an extra 200 there for the percentage of the pass that week ate up bringing it up to $855. But I was able to add a few extra days on that trip going to Vail and Keystone on the way back.

So 17 days of skiing at about $95 per day. I try to average between $100 and $125 per day but often I beat that target while staying in nice accommodations. Sometimes I stay with friends, and my place is busy in the summer with visitors to NY.

If you want some more info on saving $ while skiing, drop me a PM. It's not that hard.

**yogachik** · 03-14-2007, 05:56 PM

I like where I live, thank you very much.
No need to start a whole thread about this city, though

**runethechamp** · 03-14-2007, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by bklyn

I'm frugal - one way to build wealth is to retain some money in my pocket and to spend wisely. My schedule is also flexible, but I put in many more work hours overall than 9-5ers. Most of my income is earned during the summer.

Some examples from this season.
Purchased early:
WP/Copper pass -already past break even
Colorado card -already past break even
Loveland frequent skier - already past break even
ME Ticket - already past break even
Kirkwood pass - 5 more days to break even - with this weather pattern, may be a bit of a loss

I have taken advantage of the variety these passes offer as well as reciprocal offers in other Intrawest resorts. These passes cost me less than one season pass at Snowbird, Jackson or Squaw.

It's not so hard to plan early for flights if you know you will fly certain holidays and I search frequently for good prices.

I am a member of a ski club, so an early season week (1st of Dec) at Snowmass cost me $480 - ski in ski out lodging and lifts included. Airfare $210 to Denver, shared gas to/from airport $40. Week at Aspen/Snowmass = $730.

Recently I caught that great storm at Steamboat, a week during peak season: lodging $425, lifts -covered with pass, air = 210, gas $ offered but not accepted so I bought breakfast $20. Best week of powder in my life @ Steamboat $655. I broke even on the pass at that point but we could throw in an extra 200 there for the percentage of the pass that week ate up bringing it up to $855. But I was able to add a few extra days on that trip going to Vail and Keystone on the way back.

So 17 days of skiing at about $95 per day. I try to average between $100 and $125 per day but often I beat that target while staying in nice accommodations. Sometimes I stay with friends, and my place is busy in the summer with visitors to NY.

If you want some more info on saving $ while skiing, drop me a PM. It's not that hard.

You're pretty committed, I can tell that much. How many days are you on track for this year?

**Dromond** · 03-14-2007, 05:56 PM

bklyn,

That's great info. I always love seeing the $ to pow ratio!!

**GoldenBear** · 03-14-2007, 05:59 PM

SALT LAKE CITY

**dk_alaskan** · 03-14-2007, 06:15 PM

Anchorage, AK. the Biggest small town you will ever live in. Always something to do in the outdoors close by, easy access to the goods, little gov.t oversight in what you do (think fishing, hunting, sledding...), low taxes, you can drink the water right out of the tap, etc. The city will NEVER go over 400,000 people because it can't-butted up next to a state/national park and military bases so very little room left to expand. it is SO fucking beautiful, always see wildlife....do i need to say more?

**eirikainersharp** · 03-14-2007, 06:19 PM

For you all you who said Vancouver.... it rains a hell of a lot here!

**Chemical Ali' The Wax Master** · 03-14-2007, 06:20 PM

Salt lake city.... bigamy, and powder

**powski3** · 03-14-2007, 06:22 PM

Anchorage, AK. the Biggest small town you will ever live in. Always something to do in the outdoors close by, easy access to the goods, little gov.t oversight in what you do (think fishing, hunting, sledding...), low taxes, you can drink the water right out of the tap, etc. The city will NEVER go over 400,000 people because it can't-butted up next to a state/national park and military bases so very little room left to expand. it is SO fucking beautiful, always see wildlife....do i need to say more?

I went to Anchorage a few years ago in the summer and thought it was awesome. I've always thought it'd be a cool place to live away from it all. The only thing is, how do you deal with the darkness in the winter? I think that might drive me crazy.

**dk_alaskan** · 03-14-2007, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by powski3

The only thing is, how do you deal with the darkness in the winter? I think that might drive me crazy.

Fish and play ALL summer, you don't sleep much in the summer in AK. You get used to the summer and winters after a while. and you have a KILLER snow pack, super deep, Alyeska AVERAGES 600+" per winter...

**willtheboarder** · 03-14-2007, 06:29 PM

Sydney. I'd learn to surf

**skimoore** · 03-14-2007, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by MadMatt

How far is SF from skiing?

My fastest time to Kirkwood from SF was 2:45...including gas stop. Usually takes me about 3-3.5 hrs, but then again I'm careful with when I go and which routes I take which weekends....If you leave at rush hour on any night, you're screwed. You could probably get to Sugar Bowl or Boreal in less than that, but, then, you'd be skiing Sugar Bowl or Boreal.

I grew up in Santa Cruz, which is 4hrs minimum from Kirkwood, so anything closer than that is nice for me...

And if you decide to take the i50/i80 combo on a holiday weekend it's hell. This season has been great for drive times (primarily due to lack of snow) excluding the nukeage a couple weeks ago when it took me 10 hrs to get back.

My commute is 15-25 minutes, not exactly hell. And it's bike-able.

Rent is high, but if you have time, you can find a deal in the right area.

**lionelhutz** · 03-14-2007, 06:56 PM

Most underrated city that I'm so glad I'm going to live in: Philadelphia.
15 reasons:
1. Insanely good and diverse food culture. Philly has the best food top to bottom of any city. I don't want to hear from NYC or San Fran either. From le Bec Fin and the Barclay prime to a $3.69 Wawa hoagie everything is delicious
2. Really passionate sports fans that care about their teams.
3. Direct Flights to Denver and SLC several times a day.
4. The entire city is walk-able and safe. (exclude southwest Philly- that’s a war zone but nobody goes there anyway)
5. Amazing history. The city just leaks history all over the place and walking around you can taste it.
6. Fairmount park- the largest city park in the country.
7. Affordable beyond compare in the northeast. 125K in Philly is 180K in NYC.
8. No crowds or traffic (well maybe a little but who doesn't have some rush hour jams)
9. Corrupt and juicy mayoral politics
10. Helicopters dropping bombs on militants in a row home
11. 1 Hour from beach and gambling
12. Food carts at Penn
13. Pat's (or Geno's if you have no taste)
14. THE BIRTH OF OUR COUNTRY bitches
15. Mecca of rowing (sorry Boston- you're too spread out and waspy)

**mnflyfish** · 03-14-2007, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by dk_alaskan

Anchorage, AK. the Biggest small town you will ever live in. Always something to do in the outdoors close by, easy access to the goods, little gov.t oversight in what you do (think fishing, hunting, sledding...), low taxes, you can drink the water right out of the tap, etc. The city will NEVER go over 400,000 people because it can't-butted up next to a state/national park and military bases so very little room left to expand. it is SO fucking beautiful, always see wildlife....do i need to say more?

Have they figured out the education thing? If so then you're right this is the best city to live. As for the Ed thing, my cousin is a consultant and did a huge study for Anchorage a few years ago, and they had some real problems. Not something I ever followed until I had kids. If there has been a turn around, I might have to drop Owens an application to clean out the heli's or something and leave this madhouse. I've seen Northern Exposure, I'd bet I could handle living up there

.

Jay

**rippah** · 03-14-2007, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by Tippster

Per capita Hotness in North America is owned by Montreal. Lock, Stock, and Barrell.

It's a fact. Close the books on this one.
Montreal may not have the range or flavor of other cities but it has attitude in spades. A good, hottness attitude.

If I could have a wish, I'd wish that God, or some super genie or something, would scoop Montreal out of the Laurentian waste land and plop it right down on top of my city Vancouver. Architechture, attitude, awesome women right here on the west coast. Maybe while that genie was at it he could sink Vancouver Island so we could have surfing right here too.

r.

**OldLarry** · 03-14-2007, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by lionelhutz

Most underrated city that I'm so glad I'm going to live in: Philadelphia.
15 reasons:
1. Insanely good and diverse food culture. Philly has the best food top to bottom of any city. I don't want to hear from NYC or San Fran either. From le Bec Fin and the Barclay prime to a $3.69 Wawa hoagie everything is delicious
2. Really passionate sports fans that care about their teams.
3. Direct Flights to Denver and SLC several times a day.
4. The entire city is walk-able and safe. (exclude southwest Philly- that’s a war zone but nobody goes there anyway)
5. Amazing history. The city just leaks history all over the place and walking around you can taste it.
6. Fairmount park- the largest city park in the country.
7. Affordable beyond compare in the northeast. 125K in Philly is 180K in NYC.
8. No crowds or traffic (well maybe a little but who doesn't have some rush hour jams)
9. Corrupt and juicy mayoral politics
10. Helicopters dropping bombs on militants in a row home
11. 1 Hour from beach and gambling
12. Food carts at Penn
13. Pat's (or Geno's if you have no taste)
14. THE BIRTH OF OUR COUNTRY bitches
15. Mecca of rowing (sorry Boston- you're too spread out and waspy)

Holy FUCK I never thought I'd see that thrown out there. Having grown up in phishshow's hood (1/2 way in between) NOBODY went to philly when we grew up. No offense dude, but we weren;t even allowed to watch philly news when I was growing up

Y'allr a special kinda twisted.

**lionelhutz** · 03-14-2007, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by OldLarry

NOBODY went to philly when we grew up. No offense dude, but we weren;t even allowed to watch philly news when I was growing up

You're missing out.
Whatever though- more for me.

**shirk** · 03-14-2007, 07:35 PM

Vancouver BC sucks don't come here.

**dre4** · 03-14-2007, 07:39 PM

miami-great weather october-may and in the summer months it's not any worse than any other place on the east coast plus the beach is right there. everything for the most part is hurricane proof. phenomenal women, beautiful beach, amazing night. the real estate market will tank there so in a few years places will be cheaper than they are now(in comparison to any other major city on the east coast and anywhere in Cali, AZ, etc).

with a place in jackson, wy to visit