If you HAD to live in a CITY, which one and why?

[mtglider]

Are the Girlz in Vancuver as ugly and plentyful as the ones in the PNW?

serious question!

I have seen one cute girl here in Vancouver and I brought her from Portland

[Egon]

Sante Fe

[Dromond]

After spending the last two weeks in Vancouver BC, Screw this place. It blows. It rains constantly and there is not much to do (With a wife and kid with you). So my vote is for Santa Barbara, Ca. Nice weather year round, the Beach, the Mountains, and El Sito. Need I say more?

Perhaps we should divide the list into two groups. Those that Are allergic to rain and desire blinding, unrelenting sun and all times; and those who don't mind a little damp and gloom in the winter.


That said, constant drizzle can be a drag. However I find the endless soCal sun to be worse.

[Crass3000]

The reason I suggest NY for skiers is because with 3 major airports accessible within an hour you can have options.

Options like:
- a career that pays you more than simply a decent wage
- beautiful housing from cutting edge modern to pre war to 150+ yo historic buildings with original details
- availability of virtually anything you are interested in - culture, food, music, people...
- enough competition between merchants to easily live "high" or "low" with excellent quality whether your budget is beer or champagne.
- cheap flights to take you anywhere so it's not hard to get in 60 - 100 days ski days annually... at any place you desire... on the powder days

But maybe I should keep this secret to myself.

Yah the housing is so cheap there and the commutes can't be beat. I bet everybody will be taking over New york now.

[The AD]

Are the Girlz in Vancuver as ugly and plentyful as the ones in the PNW?

serious question!

Vancouver is part of the PNW.

[Pablo Escobar]

rossland bc

the g spot in co

logan ut

bogota colombia

incline village nv

[MacDaddy]

Perhaps we should divide the list into two groups. .

the two groups would be

where to live in the Summer and where to live in the winter.

My vote is for right here in Sandy fucking UT when it snows, and North County Coastal San Diego the rest of the time.

[MOHSHSIHd]

I think NYC sucks ass in so many ways, but then I grew up there.

I guess you are right. I grew up in the princeton area, so going to NYC was always just for fun to drink and see concerts.

[The AD]

bogota columbia

You need to learn how to spell the name of your country Pablo.

[Danno]

Some of the people in this thread are having a hard time grasping the concept of "city".

- cheap flights to take you anywhere so it's not hard to get in 60 - 100 days ski days annually... at any place you desire... on the powder days

You are forgetting that you also need a job with tremendous flexibility to do that. I have a job with tremendous flexibility for a 9-5er, get out every weekend, use every spare day I can, and live less than 90 miles from the mountains. Yet I still only get between 50-60 days. To say it's not hard to reach 60-100 while flying from NYC means you are not working the Mon-Fri 40hr or more a week grind. Not saying you don't work that many hours, but you clearly have more felxibility than most.

[road trip]

I guess you are right. I grew up in the princeton area, so going to NYC was always just for fun to drink and see concerts.

Hope yer well.

[FrankZappa]

Some of the people in this thread are having a hard time grasping the concept of "city".

Ya think?

and since we have a time frame element in the equation now...

I'll take what was probably a HUDGE "city" 1,300 years ago
for $1000, Alex.

[Dromond]

Some of the people in this thread are having a hard time grasping the concept of "city".



You are forgetting that you also need a job with tremendous flexibility to do that. I have a job with tremendous flexibility for a 9-5er, get out every weekend, use every spare day I can, and live less than 90 miles from the mountains. Yet I still only get between 50-60 days. To say it's not hard to reach 60-100 while flying from NYC means you are not working the Mon-Fri 40hr or more a week grind. Not saying you don't work that many hours, but you clearly have more felxibility than most.

You forgot to mention that while you not only need very flexible schedule covering the countless flights booked at the last minute in addition to the cost of living in NYC and possibly numerous day tickets you are talking about needing a pretty enormous salary.

Feel free to call me on that one Trayc. But maybe you're just the most frugal person I've never met? Cool that you make it work, however.

[PNWbrit]

the two groups would be

where to live in the Summer and where to live in the winter.

According to Mtglider the likely winning city blows even in winter.

Santa Barbara is nice and all but better than Vancouver? Not much to do? Staggering.

[Natedogg]

And Boston's a town, not a city you chowdaheads .

Town, INDEED!

Hey you fackin chowdaheads, wheyah the fack ya gettin ya info, kids?

Straight from the City of Boston's website (http://www.cityofboston.gov):
Boston was first incorporated as a town in 1630, and later as a city in 1822.

Or is this some inside joke and Im a big phat JONG?

Can't imagine living in the east away from the mountians. Calgary is better than Vancouver itself, but North and West Van are sick (Shore MTB anyone?).

Other cities I'd like to live in or at least try:
SLC, Denver, Seatle, Geneva, Sapporo Japan, Christchurch NZ, Anchorage

Do you mean "in the east because its away from the mountains"? Or "in areas of the east that are away from any mountains"? Cuz if its number 1, I think you need to brush up on your geography, bhub. If its number 2, I wholeheartedly agree.

And I wholeheartedly second tripledoublestampsies Christchurch. LOVE that place. Although if Boston isnt a city, Cheech must be classified as a few mud huts...

BTW, does Calgary have as good sushi as Vancouver??? Sushi, the north shore mtb, and Whistler/Blackcomb = all you ever need in life.

[skimoore]

San Francisco...because I have a hard time leaving Northern California...I do miss being only 2 hours from my mountain though...

[MadMatt]

How far is SF from skiing?

[powski3]

How far is SF from skiing?

3-13 hours, depending on traffic, with my average experience anywhere near a weekend being probably 6.

Anyway, surprised Portland hasn't come up more with Seattle and Vancouver mentioned so much. Drizzly in late fall, winter, and spring but that's overrated and sure beats blinding sun, heat, and brown. The summer weather is pretty much perfect. While the skiing may not be quite as good, the ski areas around Seattle and Vancouver are easily reached in a days drive or less, and you have skiing on Mt. Hood a little over an hour away. Despite the aggravations of Meadows, it sure beats having to fly somewhere or drive for hours just to ski.

Portland traffic isn't too bad and it also has some semblance of public transportation that they continue to work on. The town and beer are great (most microbreweries in the world).

Besides skiing you have the Gorge an hour away for windsurfing, kayaking, mountain biking, and the coast an hour and a half west for surfing and any other ocean stuff. Central Oregon is awesome too for vibe and pretty much anything outside, just 3-4 hours away (although Bachelor's kind flat). It's also a cheap, short flight or a long days drive from SLC or Reno. Pretty good overall balance I'd say.

[ColMan]

1. Denver, CO (metro - nowhere near the burbs)
2. Perth, AUS

[Franz Klammer]

Munich beats the shit out of Vienna, then sleeps with its wife. Vienna is old and boring, as are its inhabitants. Munich is younger, more vibrant, has better beer, and is MUCH closer to the good skiing in Tirol/Vorarlberg/Suisse as well.

Munich is a better choice, no doubt, but excuse me, Vienna is hipper and younger than Munich. For example, recent music from Vienna: Kruder & Dorfmeister, dzihan & kamien, Louie Austen, ... and nothing from Munich. Munich in fact is very very provincial as all the hipster from Berlin, Hamburg and Vienna will tell you.

And there's nothing like this place in Munich:
http://www.flex.at/

Personally, I believe I would go for Geneva, Zurich, Munich, Vancouver or San Francisco. Sydney would be close a close call, but fails on the skiing dimension. New York is cool, but, honestly, wouldn't you get tired of sitting on a plane for 4-5 hours + security checks before going skiing?

[Natedogg]

You forgot to mention that while you not only need very flexible schedule covering the countless flights booked at the last minute in addition to the cost of living in NYC and possibly numerous day tickets you are talking about needing a pretty enormous salary.

Feel free to call me on that one Trayc. But maybe you're just the most frugal person I've never met? Cool that you make it work, however.

Yeah, Im gonna have to agree with Dromond on this one. 60-100 days a year? From NYC? Youd either have to have a 20-hour a week job, or a regular job with ridiculously flexible hours (read three 13-hour days) and a huge salary to buy plane and lift tickets. I live within three hours of most New England resorts (Boston) and between job, family and friends, and finances, Im VERY lucky to get 30 days in. Of course, Im a middle-class working stiff, so I dont make enough to fly whenever and wherever I want to ski!

But yeah, to bring this back around, I hate cities, but they allow me to afford my weapons of choice for the backcountry (BROs, VPFree, LaSportivas, etc)...

[Ireallyliketoski2]

Hands down it'd be Denver; I'm tired of moving.

[DoubleDuff]

Since I do grasp what a city is, I have to say I shall not live in one ever again. I be a mountain man henceforth. The one I did choose to live in is the only one I could ever have seen myself in, SF.
I will always love that place. It's magical.
Mountains are better.

[filthyfrenchbum]

I can't believe some people would not live in Vancouver or Seattle because of the rain, that would be like living in Aspen and not liking it when it snows...
I'd take a day of cold rain in Vancouver over a sunny day anytime, because it always means it's snowing in the mountains (1/2 hour away).
And if you can't find anything to do in Vancouver being there for 2 weeks, you also need to wipe the crap out of your eyes, no joke. The mountains surround the place, there are plenty of different areas to visit and explore, although there IS a lack of museums and such.

Only downside IMO is that it's far from the east coast, which has a more culturally european feel to it....

But after having lived in the Carribeans, south of France, and now here, I simply can't see myself going anywhere else to live permanently.
Even Seattle, while the people have the same mentality as up here, it doesn't have the same mountain and ocean bound, secure, and Canadian feel that Vancouver has.

[runethechamp]

The reason I suggest NY for skiers is because with 3 major airports accessible within an hour you can have options.

Options like:
- a career that pays you more than simply a decent wage
- beautiful housing from cutting edge modern to pre war to 150+ yo historic buildings with original details
- availability of virtually anything you are interested in - culture, food, music, people...
- enough competition between merchants to easily live "high" or "low" with excellent quality whether your budget is beer or champagne.
- cheap flights to take you anywhere so it's not hard to get in 60 - 100 days ski days annually... at any place you desire... on the powder days

But maybe I should keep this secret to myself.

I think I love your job, but please tell me how you get 100 days of skiing a year. If you assume your skiing season lasts for 6 months (november through april for instance), which is a stretch anywhere, your season lasts about 180 days. Say 10 of those 100 days are in SA in the summer, you need to ski half your days during the season. Did I say I want that job?

Oh, and I think SF/Bay Area rules. It's expensive, but I don't have to deal with much traffic (OK, I'm lucky on that one) and Tahoe is 3 hours away. I don't get a ton of days in, but my kids and family need some time, evwen in the winter. Before I had kids, 50-day seasons were about the norm.